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[008Zulu]

A thought occured to me the other day that Cerberus is more evil than most people realise. Lets take a brief and somewhat more thorough look at their activities of late...

Mass Effect 1

Corporal Toombs' unit was led in to a trap by Cerberus where they were largly killed by Thresher Maws, the survivors were experimented on, humans were experimented on.

Cerberus scientists tried to breed an army from Rachni and Thorian Creepers. The Rachni managed to cause all manner of unpleasentness on more than one world.

Murdered a serving Admiral of the Alliance.

Mass Effect 2

Kidnapped, tortured and murdered children in an effort to increase biotic potential.

Project Lazarus, rather convenient they happened to invent the exact technology they needed the most when they needed it the most. We assumed it worked right the first time, how many people must they have had to experiement on in order to work out the bugs? There is only one race who could have had the tech, and get the procedure right the first time.

Horizon, TIM essentially told the Collectors that a friend of Shep's was there. The Collectors eithers  figured that the friend would know where Shep was or be able to contact him/her. Total human cost (the same humans he supposedly cares about saving) ; half a colony. Hundreds if not thousands.

The distress call, a Turian cruiser with a compliment of approximately 300.

Project Overlord, torturing a mentally handicapped human.

Alluded to when you meet Tali for the first time, that Cerberus tried to infiltrate and destroy a Quarian ship in the Flotilla.



TIM is not in it to save the galaxy or humanity, he is in for his own personel power trip. Now, if you go ahead and point out that TIM didn't have any knowledge of what was going on with all these various cells, then it only speaks to his incompetence as a leader of a secret organisation. He did make a point of it tell Shep that information is his weapon, so he would have known.

So which is he: The evil murdering terrorist these activites paint him as OR extremely incompetent?

[Leonia]

Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

[GodWood]

The Cerberus haters far out number the Cerberus sympathizers.

[88mphSlayer]

leonia42 wrote...

Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

didn't you get the memo? picking sides is old news, railroading is the new hotness

[Seboist]

Shepard can ally himself with ultra-violent Krogans, vicious insects that multiply faster than rats, genocidal robots and an alien council racial caste clique that sterilized an entire species but he must take the moral high ground against Cerberus!

[Leonia]

Ideally I wouldn't be on either side or being railroaded but TIM did say I was too idealistic from the start..

[ExtremeOne]

You know Op you anti Cerberus fans are pathetic . I am a Cerberus fan and pro human but what the alliance has done in 3 is even worse . They get Shepard to do arrival and then put him on trail. F the alliance and in 3 I will be a total b*tch to them

[Dean_the_Young]

008Zulu wrote...

So which is he: The evil murdering terrorist these activites paint him as OR extremely incompetent?

Neither.

False delimma.

Duh.

[corporal doody]

Humanity now! Humanity tomorrow! Humanity FOREVER!!

[ExtremeOne]

88mphSlayer wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

didn't you get the memo? picking sides is old news, railroading is the new hotness

  




Yeah it is railroading and a big fat retcon  

[CroGamer002]

I would just like to add that Horizon has over 600 000 living on it.

[CroGamer002]

ExtremeOne wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

didn't you get the memo? picking sides is old news, railroading is the new hotness

  




Yeah it is railroading and a big fat retcon  

How is that a retcon?

[Dean_the_Young]

ExtremeOne wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

didn't you get the memo? picking sides is old news, railroading is the new hotness

  




Yeah it is railroading and a big fat retcon  

Hey, ExtremeOne, what do you intend to do if the Virmire survivor is a party member?

[Thompson family]

The OP was useful. It laid the anti-Cerberus case out simply and cleanly, and it's no more redundant than all the many "There has to be some rational reason for Cerberus to turn on you" threads.

There is a rational reason. It's drawn some good recruits who are unaware of the full measure of how bats*** crazy TIM is.

[CroGamer002]

008Zulu wrote...

So which is he: The evil murdering terrorist these activites paint him as OR extremely incompetent?

Both

[ExtremeOne]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

didn't you get the memo? picking sides is old news, railroading is the new hotness

  




Yeah it is railroading and a big fat retcon  

Hey, ExtremeOne, what do you intend to do if the Virmire survivor is a party member?

   





They will sit on the ship the whole time and rot along with any other alliance squad mates.  

[GodWood]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

leonia42 wrote...
Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

didn't you get the memo? picking sides is old news, railroading is the new hotness

   Yeah it is railroading and a big fat retcon  

Hey, ExtremeOne, what do you intend to do if the Virmire survivor is a party member?

[Dean_the_Young]

Good news, everyone! I have successfully performed an experiment!

On humans!


Let's give ExtremeOne and GodWood a round of applause! (And ain't I evil for doing an experiment on humans?)

[naledgeborn]

I'm neither here nor there. Cerberus has it's strong points. Like TIM said, by "picking" the colony that was abducted he saved 2/3 of the population. If he hadn't known where the Collectors would attack that entire colony would've been Human Reaper juice. Also, the scientific breakthroughs that are achieved by his sick experiments ultimately end up in the Alliance's hands. Cerberus gets dirty so the Alliance doesn't have to.
I still blew up the base though... 

[ExtremeOne]

GodWood wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

leonia42 wrote...
Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

didn't you get the memo? picking sides is old news, railroading is the new hotness

   Yeah it is railroading and a big fat retcon  

Hey, ExtremeOne, what do you intend to do if the Virmire survivor is a party member?

  




Everyone in the Alliance is now a enemy of My Shepard 

[GodWood]

Wait, what!?


sadface?

[Fiery Phoenix]

An anti-Cerberus thread made by a Zulu. Delicious irony is delicious.

[CroGamer002]

[quote]Seboist wrote...

Shepard can ally himself with ultra-violent Krogans,[/quote]

That's false.
They may be violent but if you don't mess with them, they won't mess with you. Plus with Wrex on throne I don't think anything bad will happen.[/quote]

[quote]vicious insects that multiply faster than rats,[/quote]

How do you know that?
Did you ever saw Rachni Queen going vicious on anyone?

[quote]genocidal robots[/quote]

Every race commited genocide.
Besides Geth did not intended to make genocide, they just wanted to be free.
Also True Geth know it was a mistake and want to make peace with Qurians.

[quote]and an alien council racial caste clique that sterilized an entire species[/quote]

Well 1 out 4 isn't bad.

[quote]but he must take the moral high ground against Cerberus![/quote]
Even if you were right with all 4, Cerberus is still way worse.

[jacobOriley]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Good news, everyone! I have successfully performed an experiment!

On humans!


Let's give ExtremeOne and GodWood a round of applause! (And ain't I evil for doing an experiment on humans?)

Way to easy Dean,  you opened the door and they ran over one another trying to get in.....lolz

[CroGamer002]

leonia42 wrote...

Another "Cerberus is evil" thread? Not seeing anything new here. At this rate I'm going to become a Cerberus sympathiser if only to be different and to have a more interesting outlook on things.

Blame Cerberus fanboys for being annoying.




That reminds me, I didn't saw ZULU for some time.