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Cerberus is more evil than most people realise.


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F**k the alliance . hey alliance fans check out this video response to you all




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Mesina2 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

Shepard can ally himself with ultra-violent Krogans,


That's false.
They may be violent but if you don't mess with them, they won't mess with you. Plus with Wrex on throne I don't think anything bad will happen.

vicious insects that multiply faster than rats,


How do you know that?
Did you ever saw Rachni Queen going vicious on anyone?

genocidal robots


Every race commited genocide.
Besides Geth did not intended to make genocide, they just wanted to be free.
Also True Geth know it was a mistake and want to make peace with Qurians.

and an alien council racial caste clique that sterilized an entire species


Well 1 out 4 isn't bad.

but he must take the moral high ground against Cerberus!

Even if you were right with all 4, Cerberus is still way worse.

So Krogan Rebellions were just a big misunderstanding. Along with Rachni wars.
And "just wanted to be free" is just as good reason to slaughter few billion people as desire to achieve galactic dominance.

Modifié par LorDC, 25 avril 2011 - 01:00 .


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didymos1120

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ExtremeOne wrote...

F**k the alliance . hey alliance fans check out this video response to you all



Yes, everyone is properly devastated and stuff.  You can shut up now.  Your work is done.

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I have to agree with Didy on this one, EO. You really need to chill, dude. Your attitude lately totally isn't helping.

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Ok I will I can do that to save a forum war from exploding but the Op needs to chill as well . even thought the alliance can eat a big one

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LorDC wrote...

So Krogan Rebellions were just a big misunderstanding.



They got ambitious and though they could rule galaxy and they almost did.
But that was centuries ago and got their punishment which was a bit too excessive. Are we gonna mark them as evil like with Germans that many STILL do that today do to WW2?

Along with Rachni wars.

They were indoctrinated.


And "just wanted to be free" is just as good reason to slaughter few billion people as desire to achieve galactic dominance.


1st they had no perception of good and evil at the time
2nd they regret doing that later on
3rd they never wanted galactic dominance, only small faction of Geth decided to serve Reapers to get Reaper body

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So, why exactly does Extreme One hate the Alliance? Other than being "a man on the edge" that is. Is it because Miranda isn't a confirmed squadmate yet? I'm a Miranda fan too, you don't see me bashing the Alliance.

Modifié par naledgeborn, 25 avril 2011 - 01:15 .


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ExtremeOne wrote...

You know Op you anti Cerberus fans are pathetic . I am a Cerberus fan and pro human but what the alliance has done in 3 is even worse . They get Shepard to do arrival and then put him on trail. F the alliance and in 3 I will be a total b*tch to them


We're the pathetic ones, yet you're the one who's whining constantly about things we've heard a dozen times before? I guess that makes sense. 

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Mesina2 wrote...

LorDC wrote...

So Krogan Rebellions were just a big misunderstanding.



They got ambitious and though they could rule galaxy and they almost did.
But that was centuries ago and got their punishment which was a bit too excessive. Are we gonna mark them as evil like with Germans that many STILL do that today do to WW2?

Along with Rachni wars.

They were indoctrinated.


And "just wanted to be free" is just as good reason to slaughter few billion people as desire to achieve galactic dominance.


1st they had no perception of good and evil at the time
2nd they regret doing that later on
3rd they never wanted galactic dominance, only small faction of Geth decided to serve Reapers to get Reaper body

  






If you really think Cerberus is evil I suggest you read about the Germans from WW 2 . They are the enbodiment of what pure evil was .  Bioware made one huge problem with Cerberus and this is true they had no real idea on how to fit them into the franchise . They were part of the alliance in ME 1 and in 2 they are out to destroy the reapers and collectors . But in 3 its a big fat retcon on them. so either Bioware listened to the anti Cerberus fans or the paragons . but it makes no sense.  Its just stupid .  

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naledgeborn wrote...

So, why exactly does Extreme One hate the Alliance?


Because they're not sufficiently extreme.  Not like Cerberus.

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well, i belive the ilusive man is indoctrinatet after the events of me evilution, thats why tey want to kill shepard in me3

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ExtremeOne wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

LorDC wrote...

So Krogan Rebellions were just a big misunderstanding.



They got ambitious and though they could rule galaxy and they almost did.
But that was centuries ago and got their punishment which was a bit too excessive. Are we gonna mark them as evil like with Germans that many STILL do that today do to WW2?

Along with Rachni wars.

They were indoctrinated.


And "just wanted to be free" is just as good reason to slaughter few billion people as desire to achieve galactic dominance.


1st they had no perception of good and evil at the time
2nd they regret doing that later on
3rd they never wanted galactic dominance, only small faction of Geth decided to serve Reapers to get Reaper body

  






If you really think Cerberus is evil I suggest you read about the Germans from WW 2 . They are the enbodiment of what pure evil was .  Bioware made one huge problem with Cerberus and this is true they had no real idea on how to fit them into the franchise . They were part of the alliance in ME 1 and in 2 they are out to destroy the reapers and collectors . But in 3 its a big fat retcon on them. so either Bioware listened to the anti Cerberus fans or the paragons . but it makes no sense.  Its just stupid .  


Hmm Everytime I see you post, it is a continuation of your rant about the villianization of Cerberus. Two Questions:

1) Do you have any other opinions or just "Cerbus good Rocko Bad"
2) Since when did working with a terrorist organization run by bigots go over well for anyone?

and one statement: To you as a fan of said terrorists I say:
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didymos1120 wrote...
Because they're not sufficiently extreme.  Not like Cerberus.

They're not men on the edge!

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I lead my own way... People just get in my way...

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luzburg wrote...

well, i belive the ilusive man is indoctrinatet after the events of me evilution, thats why tey want to kill shepard in me3


i dunno...then why go after the collectors? TIM is just off his rocker

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Someone With Mass wrote...

ExtremeOne wrote...

You know Op you anti Cerberus fans are pathetic . I am a Cerberus fan and pro human but what the alliance has done in 3 is even worse . They get Shepard to do arrival and then put him on trail. F the alliance and in 3 I will be a total b*tch to them


We're the pathetic ones, yet you're the one who's whining constantly about things we've heard a dozen times before? I guess that makes sense. 

   





If the shoe fits wear it 

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I would respect cerb more if they had more control with their expriments and TIM does not push his scientest so hard to get results and then they end up doing something stupid and it ends up being my shep to clean up their mess. As you can see i am not a cerb fan.

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As if ONE Zulu weren't enough :mellow:

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It'll be interesting to see whether EO makes a 180 on the matter, if it turns out Miranda has turned her back on Cerberus in ME3... ;)

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jojon2se wrote...

It'll be interesting to see whether EO makes a 180 on the matter, if it turns out Miranda has turned her back on Cerberus in ME3... ;)


Miranda will just sit on the ship and rot.........

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jojon2se wrote...

It'll be interesting to see whether EO makes a 180 on the matter, if it turns out Miranda has turned her back on Cerberus in ME3... ;)


She basically already has.  Blow the base, and she's stoked.  She can even tell TIM to suck it.  Keep it, and she's really not too pleased.

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didymos1120 wrote...
She basically already has.  Blow the base, and she's stoked.  She can even tell TIM to suck it.  Keep it, and she's really not too pleased.


Romance her, and her character will be practically bending over for Shepard, (literally in some cases) after pretending to be this independent woman.

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Mesina2 wrote...

LorDC wrote...

So Krogan Rebellions were just a big misunderstanding.



They got ambitious and though they could rule galaxy and they almost did.
But that was centuries ago and got their punishment which was a bit too excessive. Are we gonna mark them as evil like with Germans that many STILL do that today do to WW2?

Along with Rachni wars.

They were indoctrinated.


And "just wanted to be free" is just as good reason to slaughter few billion people as desire to achieve galactic dominance.


1st they had no perception of good and evil at the time
2nd they regret doing that later on
3rd they never wanted galactic dominance, only small faction of Geth decided to serve Reapers to get Reaper body

Krogans are still as dangerous as they were before. Why would else Mordin need to redo genophage. And seriously, after visiting Tuchanka it is more or less obvious that Krogan didn't change.
Rachni indoctrination is pure speculation. And their regret later on wouldn't help humanity if we were victims of their aggression.
As for last quote, you completely missed the point. It was not Heretics who killed 99% of Quarians. It were those Geth who are Legion. And you argument that they "just wanted to be free" is as vindicative as desire to achieve galactic dominance is for Cerberus in their endeavors.
And last point. You completely miss the point of my arguments. Cerberus is not wolf among the sheep. Cerberus is wolf among wolfs. Yes those other wolfs have their own reasons to be such but that doesn't change the fact that sheep will not survive in the middle of wolf pack.

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Cerberus isn't evil if you believe that their intentions are good and that their actions will ultimately result in a better humanity.

But you know what they say about the road to hell being paved with good intentions...

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Someone With Mass wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...
She basically already has.  Blow the base, and she's stoked.  She can even tell TIM to suck it.  Keep it, and she's really not too pleased.


Romance her, and her character will be practically bending over for Shepard, (literally in some cases) after pretending to be this independent woman.


Says the Talimancer =]