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[008Zulu]

thurmanator692 wrote...

Cerberus is as 'evil' as anybody who protects their own. I may disagree with a lot of the stuff they do, but i can't hate them, or label them as 'evil' because 1 nobody else is doing any better 2 evil is prespective anyways, so doesn't really have a stance in the issue 3 they want to see humanity reach its full potential, which is an admirable goal 4 Martin Sheen

Destroying the Collector base didn't slow down the Reaper invasion fleet. Cerberus hasn't done anything to slow the fleet down.

If our full potential is torturing children and injecting acid in to unwilling subjects, then book me a ticket to a different species.

[Moiaussi]

thurmanator692 wrote...

What criminal, unethical and amoral activities are you involved in? And are you actually in government?

Like i'll tell you?
pfft

Lured any military units to their death recently just to see what happens? How about wiring autistic people into prototype doomsday weapons? Done anything comperable with that? Shot or ordered shot anyone just because they disagreed with you in an arguement?

I suppose it is possible you don't consider TIM or Cerberus evil simply because you are similarly bad, but I rather doubt it. The fact is even most career criminals have a stronger sense of morality than Cerberus.

[Someone With Mass]

I'm sorry if I'm not placing my faith in Cerberus sharing this, oh almighty Reaper weapon they found on the Collector base with the rest of us.

Besides, if the base for some reason had a weapon of some use there, you know what the Reapers could do? Send about five of them to wipe Cerberus out completely.

[Moiaussi]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Studying the Collector base could grant us the technology we need to repel the fleet though. At the very least Cerberus eliminated a Reaper proxy race, reducing the number of enemies we need to fight in the future.

All of which could have been done by others just as easily if TIM wasn't endangering everyone by suppressing evidence of the threat level just so his agency ends up with the most toys.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
I'm sorry you are an irrational person. You shouldn't project your madness on anyone else though. Most especially Cerberus.

Tell that to the USA and Osama Bin Laden.

Yep, I just compared fictional terrorists with real ones.

Deal with it.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 04 mai 2011 - 02:24 .

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
When has he supressed anything? Neither the game nor the novel support your assertion here. He's welcomed help by outside parties but none of them are interested.

Oh, gee.

I can't possible imagine why few factions wants to work with active terrorists that have a fancy record of betraying people.

[Someone With Mass]

Saphra Deden wrote...
Some definitions are better than others. Namely, my definition is better than Someone With Mass's or Mousy's.

[Clonedzero]

you know.
that was kind of the the point of working with cerberus.
the whole "working with the devil" for the greater good?
does that theme completely go over everyones head?

ah whatever, im not going to bother lol

[008Zulu]

mrsph wrote...

Cerberus, Cerberus, Cerberus. When I think of them I think of a dog. Not just any dog, mind you! But a three headed guardian of the Underworld. A guardian that keeps out undesirables from the underworld. What does this have to do with the organization? Well the Charon relay is the gate to that Underworld and Cerberus, Cerberus is the incompetent dog that bites its master every time it tries to help.

Cerberus was charged with keeping the spirits from escaping the underworld.

[Moiaussi]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Moiaussi wrote...

All of which could have been done by others just as easily if TIM wasn't endangering everyone by suppressing evidence of the threat level just so his agency ends up with the most toys.

When has he supressed anything? Neither the game nor the novel support your assertion here. He's welcomed help by outside parties but none of them are interested.

Hmmm... he leaked that Shepard was working with Cerberus before that was even true, refused to allow any warning to Horizon, suppressed the nature of the derelect reaper, suppressed the information regarding the collector ship (he jammed the turian distress beacon!), and commandeered the additional, intact beacon recovered.

And that is what we know of. We also know that Shepard was likewise kept on a need to know basis (need as determined by TIM), so it is very reasonable to conclude that there is a lot suppressed that we don't know about, since Shepard would have been deemed not to need to know.

What game were you playing? It really seems like you have written your own version of ME and ME2 to conform to what you would like Cerberus to be.

[Moiaussi]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Actually, I agree with you about that. However if the late Osama was the only man willing to save Earth from invading aliens I'd help him.

It is much easier to be the only man willing to save the Earth when you keep as much information useful to doing so to yourself simply to further some mad, unrelated agenda.