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Mordin - Stay in the Lab. You're too smart to have on the front lines in that get up. You also tend to get on shotted too much on Insanity.

Jack - You're wearing that in space? Well... If you want to do this space porno now than I can't really decline. Just know that it will be on a non-canon save.

Samara - Such a tease! You wont put out yet you wear that? You know you want some of this Shepard Meat! That or you aren't as 'wise' as you would like others to believe...

Thane - Okay, you're supposed to be an assassin. I can dig that you want to be nimble... Yet why is it in teamfights you don't 'act' like an assassin? Maybe you should consider some armor? Maybe? Especially for those rockets to the face you tend to get so much on Insanity?

Jacob - Just no... You told me you used to be in the Alliance. Last time I checked the Alliance is smart enough to wear armor, Now you on the otherhand? Well... I wonder if TIM did some 'tests' on you in the past to explain why you suddenly became an idiot to forgo armor.

Miranda - I get it. You want me but I'm clearly with Ashley. Sure we can have a 'fling' on my Renegade Save but that's as far as it'll go. Reason being is that you're supposed to be the 'perfect' woman yet you seem to have a 'very' imperfect brain. Hell, even an 'idiot' knows to wear armor even when you have Bioics.

Tali - Okay, you're wearing a suit... Understandable. That's a 'thing' many Quarians do from those that I've met. Though seeing how even a 'scratch' in the suit can be life threatening to you I was wondering... Why not add some more 'armor' or 'protection' to protect the outside of the suit? Just a thought is all since you don't seem all that nimble despite the way you stand.

Kasumi - Kai Leng does Assassin right. He's nimble and wears some armor. You should take pointers from that. Though ignore his Cerberus thoughts since that might not be an upgrade for you. Armor and nimbleness? Those you need to take pointers for from this hypocrite.

Zaeed - You're almost perfect! The only thing is that mask... You cover your face but not the back of your head? No wonder your team dies so much with you. What with following 'that' kind of example on what 'not' to wear as a helmet in space.

Morinth - You're evil. It's understandable that you got smacked from the stupid stick. Being Samara's daughter only means that it isn't your fault and your stupidity is from your gene pool and not you.

Those that did it right.

Garrus - You're my bro. A bit dense at times and way too impatient... As well as whinny but atleast you aren't an idiot. I can respect that, dawg.

Legion - With you being Geth and a Sniper I'll let you pass. Though for christs sake cover up that hole and maybe think of getting some 'light' armor upgrades.

Grunt- Other than Garrus you're the only other person that gets a perfect score. You may be young, naive, and crazy but at least you have more intelligence than nearly everyone else on the crew. If Garrus wasen't already my bro you would be my bro and that's from the heart.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 26 avril 2011 - 12:21 .


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Shields and Barriers, it's not a big issue.

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It's stupid and I hate whoever was responsible for putting that into Mass Effect.

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Malanek999 wrote...

Shields and Barriers, it's not a big issue.


Except when they fail. (at least jack has her belt bra to protect her in those hazardous enviroments) 

Modifié par Infinite Legend , 26 avril 2011 - 12:30 .


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They really need to stop thinking we're prepubescent children who crave T and A all the time in a game.

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you actually wanna know my thoughts about girls and cleavage????

i dont mind any armors, its something i can easily get over. i didnt like being in zero G and seeing them with little breather masks on. for a second i thought "maybe they were upgraded and have body parts capable of exposure to something that should melt your face. but that only lasted a second.

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Malanek999 wrote...

Shields and Barriers, it's not a big issue.


My Shepard had shields and barriers... He was a Sentinel and let me tell you. On Insanity those shields and barriers failed A LOT. Thus my Shepard made the smart choice and put on some armor for when the inevitable happens upon the battlefeild.

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Malanek999 wrote...

Shields and Barriers, it's not a big issue.


Don't work that way.

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nothing wrong with the unique look as long as it makes sense

Open chest Thane, Catsuit Miranda and Nipplebelt jack make NO SENSE

at least they corrected Mirands and Thane.....only Miranda is now disproportioned

FFS Bioware your fans are not morons we do not need catsuit wearind field operatives under fire

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I don't want to get caught up in a discussion about game mechanics in regards to this. They are there for gameplay purposes. As for the future, if such shield technology exists and doesn't retard movement, I think the use of bulky armour is actually significantly more unrealistic. There are many concepts you could pick apart in the ME world, this isn't a particularly bad one.

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They really need to go back to how ME1 did things. On the Normandy Liara,Ashley and Kaidan had their non-combat outfits on and during missions they had their armor.

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Infinite Legend wrote...

Malanek999 wrote...

Shields and Barriers, it's not a big issue.


Except when they fail.


Actually, that's not what armor is for.  If your kinetic barrier drops, you're toast, period.  The reason there's armor is because barriers aren't perfect: projectiles do still get through. They're much slowed but still potentially lethal. Neither are barriers capable of dealing with slow moving stuff.  Like, say, a varren bite.  They just simplify that in gameplay such that your barrier is just another bar with certain resistances that, in ME2 anyway, always has to be whittled down first (even the Thresher Maw works like that in ME2: it instantly drops you to health instead of ignoring the barrier entirely as in ME1).

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My Shepard does not give a dam what my squad mates wear . so long as they do as I say and get the job done .

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Your Shepard must have low standards than. My Shepard expects my crew to not be dumb and actually wear proper protection when going into a combat zone.

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Seboist wrote...

They really need to go back to how ME1 did things. On the Normandy Liara,Ashley and Kaidan had their non-combat outfits on and during missions they had their armor.

Yep, and when it came time for loving, off went their clothes. None of that fully-dressed osmosis we get in ME2. :whistle:

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Malanek999 wrote...

As for the future, if such shield technology exists and doesn't retard movement, I think the use of bulky armour is actually significantly more unrealistic.


Well, such shield technology doesn't exist. Or rather, if you tried to use the tech that way, you couldn't walk around normally or sit down in a chair and you'd suffocate to death.  Assuming their hardsuit power supplies are even up to maintaining a barrier that strong (biotic barriers being capable of any of this isn't even worth considering: you'd collapse from acute exhaustion in very short order.  Not to mention the intense concentration biotics require according to lore).

Modifié par didymos1120, 26 avril 2011 - 12:47 .


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Too be honest it DOESNT matter its a game if it was meant to be a realistic shooter I would agree with you but it is not.

I understand where everyone is coming from but you got to remember in science fiction anything is possible like a breathing mask when in space in real life you would get laughed out the door with such an idea but in science fiction you can get away with it and works for mass effect because one most people like to see characters face when talking so its logical in a game to do so.

Same can be said for wearing no armour in a war zone in science fiction movies/games because they know you do not watch/play for realism you do so to enjoy the effects, the story, the characters and feel like your part of this amazing world.

an example of this is in star wars with the rebels which did not wear armour in star wars (apart from clothing which i doubt that would stop a blaster) and they defeated the empire who wore armour and armour did not help at all one shot they are down

same can be set for many science fiction movies follow this pattern and it suits mass effect to do this because of its influences of star wars and other major classic science fiction films and usually Mass effect tend to have shielding, tech and biotics for characters which can compensate for the lack of armour

i know i would much rather have the unqiue clothing for each character rather than generic armour once more for mass effect and i am not saying that because of being a miranda fan I even bought the alternative appearance pack for all the characters you can it just does not suit the route mass effect series is taking and the appearance pack did not look bad (apart from the stupid visors) and i understand why people prefer it to game the realism factor but that is not what mass effect is about

on a final note when the Mass Effect movie does come out would you want every single character walk about dressed like a space marine out of warhammer models and games which I am sure a lot of you will say no which is logical because why waste the talents of the actors/actress with trying to carry such weight when they are meant to acting the role of their character and maximise the amazing mass effect story 

Modifié par TomY90, 26 avril 2011 - 12:52 .


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I hope that this goes away on ME3. All squadmates should have armor at least as an alternate appearance for those of us who like to see them in armor. They can wear whatever they want in the Normandy but outside the Normandy they should wear armor. I have to say the most ridiculous squadmates with regards to this were Miranda, Jack and Samara.

Can't they make females look good in armor or something? Can't they make them look good without putting them in extra tight outfits?

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Endurium wrote...

Seboist wrote...

They really need to go back to how ME1 did things. On the Normandy Liara,Ashley and Kaidan had their non-combat outfits on and during missions they had their armor.

Yep, and when it came time for loving, off went their clothes. None of that fully-dressed osmosis we get in ME2. :whistle:


ME2 has racier outfits and more tame sex scenes than ME1. I'm still scratching my head over that like I am with Morinth wearing more modest clothes than Samara.:blink:

Modifié par Seboist, 26 avril 2011 - 12:51 .


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Elite Midget wrote...

Mordin - Stay in the Lab. You're too smart to have on the front lines in that get up.


Oh, BTW: that's actually armor.  Just look at it: there's plenty of hard plating over a more flexible mesh.  All Mordin needed was a full helmet for toxic/low pressure environments.

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Don't we already have a thread for people to complain about the sexy outfits?

And I know we've had more than enough complaining about the lack of armor.

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TomY90 wrote...

I understand where everyone is coming from but you got to remember in science fiction anything is possible like a breathing mask when in space in real life you would get laughed out the door with such an idea but in science fiction you can get away with it and works for mass effect because one most people like to see characters face when talking so its logical in a game to do so.


No, you really can't get away with it in science fiction.  Flouting reality is of course expected to some degree, but this sort of thing has never been acceptable in anything with any pretensions of being serious SF (unless of course it's actually explained semi-plausibly, which ME2 doesn't bother with at all), which ME definitely has. As far as the "see their face" thing goes: there's this property called "transparency".  See Joker in the prologue.

Modifié par didymos1120, 26 avril 2011 - 12:57 .


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Don't sweat the small stuff

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God forbid we have a verosimile sci fi setting with a deep rich lore that makes sense and is well and intelligently represented ingame....that would be awful...Yeah let's handwave everything because it's a game, let's give people even more reason not to take the medium seriously


headdesks

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Frankly, it is annoying being distracted by sex when I'm trying to play a game.