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[Shadowrun1177]

crimzontearz wrote...

JunMadine wrote...

Seboist wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

InvincibleHero wrote...

Where does it state Geth base has no atmosphere? I think you mean it may have had little or no oxygen which is why breathers are sufficient.

Legion:  "Alert. This facility has little air or gravity. Geth require neither."

I suppose you could argue that Legion only meant "oxygen" by "air", but I don't see why the heretics would bother maintaining pressure at all.

Heretics prepare for organic guests of course.

The station was originally quarian I think.  Maybe it still could maintian a pressurized environment. As for temperature the internal computers and machinery could have kept a reasonable temperature, not a comfortable one but still.  It may be a stretch but I can let this one slide, barely though.

it was not

Legion specifies the station has no windows because geth consider them structural weaknesses

Your right about what Legion says, and to add to your point he also says they the heretic geth built it and built it between star's cause organic's wouldn't look there for it.

Modifié par Shadowrun1177, 04 mai 2011 - 09:00 .

[Shadowrun1177]

crimzontearz wrote...

no, the reaper has a segment in which 1: you hear a log saying they needed airlocks for it and 2 you walk OUT of an airlock into a de pressurized area

The log says they needed the airlocks for short sleeve work ie no suits required and if the number 2 point your refering to is when it says matching interior pressure with exterior, that doesn't mean your entering a de-pressurized area only an area with a different pressure level then the one you just came from.

Modifié par Shadowrun1177, 04 mai 2011 - 09:08 .

[Kabanya101]

There's so many threads about armor, but my thoughts are...that it was riduculous. Wearing skimpy and ****ty clothing around the ship is fine, but characters like Miranda and Jack need to put some armor on.

Even though its a game, I don't think someone would go into battle half naked any more, what are we, spartans??? Nobody fights half naked, sorry Jack, and save the stripper clothes in the bedroom Miranda.

And what is with everyone hitting on Shepard, you try to be nice and then everyone wants to get in the sack. Liara is the only exception, and maybe Samara, but she's a tease.

[JunMadine]

Shadowrun1177 wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

no, the reaper has a segment in which 1: you hear a log saying they needed airlocks for it and 2 you walk OUT of an airlock into a de pressurized area

The log says they needed the airlocks for short sleeve work ie no suits required and if the number 2 point your refering to is when it says matching interior pressure with exterior, that doesn't mean your entering a de-pressurized area only an area with a different pressure level then the one you just came from.

There is pressure and air in the reaper, but once you destroy the eezo core the barriers and mass effect field maintain the pressure and air is gone.  With that situation any squad mate that doesn't put on a helmet should die a very painful death.  Like in the movie total recall when the bad guy is on the martian surface.  If some one could post a pic to demonstrate I'd be grateful.

[didymos1120]

Shadowrun1177 wrote...

Your right about what Legion says, and to add to your point he also says they the heretic geth built it and built it between star's cause organic's wouldn't look there for it.

Again: the Galaxy Map description states that it was a quarian-built station originally.  I posted it on the previous page.

[el expl0siv0]

michaelrsa wrote...

They really need to stop thinking we're prepubescent children who crave T and A all the time in a game.

I don't have time to read this entire thread past the first page so forgive me if this is out of context but I just want this say to the quoted poster: Amen to that brother.

Modifié par el expl0siv0, 04 mai 2011 - 09:42 .

[didymos1120]

JunMadine wrote...
  Like in the movie total recall when the bad guy is on the martian surface.  If some one could post a pic to demonstrate I'd be grateful.

Uh, no.  That scene's complete BS.  People can survive vacuum exposure if it's brief, and while there is some tissue swelling, it's rather mild initially.  You don't inflate or explode suddenly. You also don't insta-freeze.  Now, that said, with the facemask-wearers, they don't have a good seal. If they tried to hold their breath their lungs would be @#$%ed up pretty badly, as lung tissue's pretty delicate.  If they didn't try to hold their breath, they'd lose consciousness within 10 or so seconds (if human. I assume it's roughly the same for non-humans, but maybe not), but if someone got them back to the Normandy fast enough (within a couple minutes), they'd have a good shot at surviving (though, again, I'm sure that it would depend on the species somewhat).

[gosimmons]

didymos1120 wrote...

JunMadine wrote...
  Like in the movie total recall when the bad guy is on the martian surface.  If some one could post a pic to demonstrate I'd be grateful.

Uh, no.  That scene's complete BS.  People can survive vacuum exposure if it's brief, and while there is some tissue swelling, it's rather mild initially.  You don't inflate or explode suddenly. You also don't insta-freeze.  Now, that said, with the facemask-wearers, they don't have a good seal. If they tried to hold their breath their lungs would be @#$%ed up pretty badly, as lung tissue's pretty delicate.  If they didn't try to hold their breath, they'd lose consciousness within 10 or so seconds (if human. I assume it's roughly the same for non-humans, but maybe not), but if someone got them back to the Normandy fast enough (within a couple minutes), they'd have a good shot at surviving (though, again, I'm sure that it would depend on the species somewhat).

So, you're trying to say that they're only partially risking their lives to make a fashion statement.

[Obvakhi]

As much as I hate Jack's attire, I can't see her wearing full combat armor. It just wouldn't be Jack.

[didymos1120]

gosimmons wrote...

So, you're trying to say that they're only partially risking their lives to make a fashion statement.

No, it's still really stupid. I was just pointing out that Total Recall got that stuff ridiculously wrong.  The scene in 2001 where Dave re-enters the ship without a helmet, by contrast, got most everything right.  The one glaring goof was that he holds his breath before blowing the hatch on the pod: hello ruptured lungs.  There was also an episode of the new BSG where they had to rescue two of the crew stuck in a malfunctioning airlock by opening it to vacuum and then scooping them up in a rescue craft that was very well done.  One of them ends up having to spend hours in a hyperbaric chamber, and neither is in great shape.

Modifié par didymos1120, 04 mai 2011 - 10:13 .

[Mr. Sniper Rifle]

 This has probably been touched on before:

 It's the high heels that Samara/Morinth and  Miranda wear. It bothers the hell out of me and my brother; I mean if you  think about, it really makes no sense.  I mean could you imagine running for cover or shooting at someone in stiletto heels?  Looks like a great way to snap an ankle.

[gosimmons]

Obvakhi wrote...
As much as I hate Jack's attire, I can't see her wearing full combat armor. It just wouldn't be Jack.

I could picture something more like a flak jacket working, wouldn't have to be exactly formal. I know they wanted to show off her tatoos, but it's not like her character is defined by not wearing a shirt.

didymos1120 wrote...
No, it's still really stupid. I was just pointing out that Total Recall got that stuff ridiculously wrong.  The scene in 2001 where Dave re-enters the ship without a helmet, by contrast, got most everything right.  The one glaring goof was that he holds his breath before blowing the hatch on the pod: hello ruptured lungs.  There was also an episode of the new BSG where they had to rescue two of the crew stuck in a malfunctioning airlock by opening it to vacuum and then scooping them up in a rescue craft that was very well done.  One of them ends up having to spend hours in a hyperbaric chamber, and neither is in great shape.

Ah, I see. Good points, even moments of space can be rough when looked at realistically. So still hoping Me3 can handle it as such.

[NKKKK]

Mr. Sniper Rifle wrote...

 This has probably been touched on before:

 It's the high heels that Samara/Morinth and  Miranda wear. It bothers the hell out of me and my brother; I mean if you  think about, it really makes no sense.  I mean could you imagine running for cover or shooting at someone in stiletto heels?  Looks like a great way to snap an ankle.

Hookers do it like total pros

[VelvetStraitjacket]

"Normal" women do it too They're just high heels, not the ****ing antichrist. Get over it.

[Iakus]

gosimmons wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...
As much as I hate Jack's attire, I can't see her wearing full combat armor. It just wouldn't be Jack.

I could picture something more like a flak jacket working, wouldn't have to be exactly formal. I know they wanted to show off her tatoos, but it's not like her character is defined by not wearing a shirt.

I could totally see her being issued a suit of light Cerberus armor by Miranda.  Jack refusing (using colorful descritprs) and Shep insisting that his/her team goes into combat like professionals.  Jack reluctantly taking it, and we later see it all "punked out" with colorful markings, the Cerberus logo burned off, and other "creative vandalism" done to it which wouldn't hurt its functionality but would give it a unique "Jack" look and a personal F U to Cerberus and Miranda.

[Brannon]

I think there should be a sexy outfit, a non-sexy outfit and an armor outfit for main characters. I do like the idea of specialized appearances for main characters. The randomness and often gaudy appearance of some of the armors in ME1 was annoying. I wanted the look of the N7 armor, but the Onyx armor was one of the weaker armor lines. I agree with that they did for Shepard in ME 2 (I remember liking Bastila and Joli's default clothing so much in KOTOR that I never put a generic Jedi outfit on them for the same reason.)

[JunMadine]

I just thought of this and I am surprised it wasn't mentioned but the quarian flotilla! For a race of hardcore germophobes they don't have issues with half naked humans running around their ships.

[Cosmar]

I don't mind people NOT wearing armor, but please, at least wear SOMETHING. I understand Bioware was trying to target the overly hormonal kiddie crowd and draw them in with sideboobs and uncovered scaly alien pecs, but please. Anyone who played ME1 IMO could see that male and female characters still looked quite good being all covered up in their armor.

But as one poster said, the little breather masks for being in space did bother me. Shouldn't they be exploding or melting or freezing or whatever happens to exposed flesh in a vacuum? This "sci-fi" epic seems to be getting more "fi" than "sci."

[Seboist]

JunMadine wrote...

I just thought of this and I am surprised it wasn't mentioned but the quarian flotilla! For a race of hardcore germophobes they don't have issues with half naked humans running around their ships.

That whole situation was a good example of the absurdity of the catsuits,nipple straps and V necks.

[Sarcastic Tasha]

Miranda's arse is a like a main character in ME2 (with more personality than Kaiden).

[didymos1120]

Seboist wrote...

JunMadine wrote...

I just thought of this and I am surprised it wasn't mentioned but the quarian flotilla! For a race of hardcore germophobes they don't have issues with half naked humans running around their ships.

That whole situation was a good example of the absurdity of the catsuits,nipple straps and V necks.

What funnier still is that the game will force Shep to wear the N7 helmet there if you haven't selected one of the other fully-enclosed ones. Adding more absurdity, if you take Legion, the renegade response to the kerfluffle at the airlock is Shep threatening to remove his/her helmet and cough on stuff. 

[PsychoWARD23]

I liked it in ME1 so much more. AND THEY HAD A TOGGLE HELMET OPTION

[didymos1120]

Cosmar wrote...

 Shouldn't they be exploding or melting or freezing or whatever happens to exposed flesh in a vacuum?

Exploding: no.  That's Hollywood nonsense, unless the pressure differential is very large and the transition to vacuum is very rapid. Swelling, sure, but it wouldn't be instantaneous.  Freezing...eventually. It'd take quite awhile to cool because you'd mostly be shedding heat via radiation, and that's not very efficient. You'd get frost on the eyes and mouth and nose pretty quickly, though, because there's moisture there that can evaporate and a route for escaping gases. Unless of course you were in direct sunlight, in which case the body could actually heat up, depending on how close to the star you were.

Really the big immediate danger is the lack of oxygen.  You'd black out in about ~10 seconds, and would be beyond help after about 90 seconds to two minutes (though in SF, there's always the possibility of better medical tech extending that window). 

But as far as the outfits in ME2 go, the partial facemasks+unspaceworthy clothing actually makes things worse because there's not a good seal, but the masks are still pretty well-secured (as opposed to, say, the rather flimsy ones on an airplane).  Essentially, it's equivalent to people holding their breath: hello shredded lungs because the air can't get out fast enough. It would be a rather bloody and quick death.

[Seboist]

didymos1120 wrote...

Seboist wrote...

JunMadine wrote...

I just thought of this and I am surprised it wasn't mentioned but the quarian flotilla! For a race of hardcore germophobes they don't have issues with half naked humans running around their ships.

That whole situation was a good example of the absurdity of the catsuits,nipple straps and V necks.

What funnier still is that the game will force Shep to wear the N7 helmet there if you haven't selected one of the other fully-enclosed ones. Adding more absurdity, if you take Legion, the renegade response to the kerfluffle at the airlock is Shep threatening to remove his/her helmet and cough on stuff. 

Surely one of the devs must have thought that whole scenario was absurd. Just what were they thinking?

I can't wrap my head around characters being made to look more sexualized while at the same time the sex scenes were toned down to dry humping and fade to blacks.

Modifié par Seboist, 09 mai 2011 - 01:13 .