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[AngelicMachinery]

crimzontearz wrote...

no...Atheyta just makes sleazy jokes about public sex and tosses voluses around while headbutting krogans LOL

I'd do it if I could,  and you know you would too.

[crimzontearz]

maybe...I'd definitely do her on that bar tho.......

[Mister Ford]

Elite Midget wrote...

I like ME:1's Armor, but Kasumi as from the Star Wars example, may have had an alloy fiber compoisit armor. So I can support stuff like that, however Jack, Miri, and Ole Blue, were all three not just fan service, but tasteless fan service.

You know what, if Kasumi's outfit could have had "an alloy fiber composite armor", so could Miranda's.

But I love how people who were in no way involved in the developmental process act like they have some inside information about certain directions and decisions taken in the design of the game

[Shadowrun1177]

Mister Ford wrote...

You know what, if Kasumi's outfit could have had "an alloy fiber composite armor", so could Miranda's.

But I love how people who were in no way involved in the developmental process act like they have some inside information about certain directions and decisions taken in the design of the game

I agree with you or how people assume they know what a character would and wouldn't wear or would and wouldn't do over the dev's who created said character.

[didymos1120]

Mister Ford wrote...
But I love how people who were in no way involved in the developmental process act like they have some inside information about certain directions and decisions taken in the design of the game

Because it's not like the devs haven't given interviews and suchlike where they outright stated the squad outfits were done for aesthetic reasons.  Plus, you know, the game doesn't even attempt to handwave them at all, and all the lore in the Codex is unchanged.

[Elite Midget]

Mister Ford wrote...

You know what, if Kasumi's outfit could have had "an alloy fiber composite armor", so could Miranda's.

But I love how people who were in no way involved in the developmental process act like they have some inside information about certain directions and decisions taken in the design of the game

So you prefer being a lapdog that never questions anything even when it's obvious things don't add up? If that's the case than what're you even doing on these forums since it's apparant you lack an opinion of your own and just believe what you're told to believe, am I not correct?

[Johanna]

Elite Midget wrote...

Samara - Such a tease! You wont put out yet you wear that? You know you want some of this Shepard Meat! That or you aren't as 'wise' as you would like others to believe...

Can we not?

[Johanna]

Dark_Caduceus wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

massive_effect wrote...

God made woman because he loves man. To deny a woman's beauty is to deny God's love.

Well, that was rather irrelevant.

Actually, God created the earth and the stars. He holds dominion over all creation, so in a way it's completely relevant.

Then tell her/him to do something about the Reapers, FFS.

[Raiil]

Eh, I just see it as part of their character. Thane? A skilled assassin (best in the galaxy, in fact, if rumours are to be believed) who relies on stealth and speed to get the job done. Wearing bulky armour would have been ridiculous for him at this stage, since he wouldn't have been taught to wear it. Plus he has to keep his chest exposed, I thought.


Tali? Not built for combat. She's meant to duck behind barriers and do quick disarms and potshots. Characters like Grunt and Zaeed are meant to be the tanks and they wear the heavier armour. Other characters wouldn't need them for their day to day needs and it's a little late in the game (in terms of where they are, strength wise and chronologically) to slip them into something heavy. That's something that takes a long time to adjust to and move comfortably in.

Modifié par Valentia X, 30 avril 2011 - 06:34 .

[Sajuro]

I honestly do not think that any of the characters in Mass Effect 2 are that sexy, not even considering the LIs
Tali: Tight outfit, but romanced her because I liked her since ME1
Jack: Belt strap, but meh nothing much to hide
Miranda:form fitting, but non revealing suit (no cleavage, and I didn't think it was that sexual until characters kept pointing it out in game)
Thane: It may be because I'm a guy, but not sexy
Garrus: Adorkable but no sexy there
Jacob: He's a bro, I only hate cause it is easy to make fun of him, but I cannot picture romancing him.
Samara: Dayum! but I figured she must have her own reasons for having absolute cleavage and know she could use biotics to flay a person for whistling at her as she passes so she goes into intimidating like Kara Thrace is most of the time
Kelly: She's a flirtatious and 'playful' psychology major, that isn't exactly anything new.
and Kasumi: I only noticed her dat ass in the promotional pictures.
in short, keep your eyes on their faces.

[Pani Mauser]

I do not mind at all. I love Samara's cleavage, Miranda's tight suit, Jack's looks as a whole. Mordin and Kasumi have most useful powers (to me at least), and their weak health is easily restored by medigel. Grunt and Zaeed are badass enough to go into space barehanded, and Thane is a space ninja, and ninjas in fiction can do anything.

Maybe it has something to do with my age. I grew up with Konan, Red Sonja, Witchblade and Xena and I love the trope 'the less armor you wear the more powerful you become'.

Also, what realism are you talking about? If you have full shields and you get rocket in the face, the only harm it does is stumbling you for a second. Doesn't it breaks your immersion? To me, after this everything else is irrelevant. If shields/barriers are powerful enough to stop direct hit of the rocket, it means those shields can protect against hazards of space too.

Also, this is videogame, and videogames have theirs conventionalities. If writers had to do everything realistically, you'd never get Mass Effect, because it is as unrealistic as it can get in its core story. So, you either accept the conventionalities of the universe, either why bother at all?

I can never understand people who can accept things like biotics, mass relays, aliens of all kinds, etc, but not 'naked armour' .

[didymos1120]

Babe Mause wrote...

I can never understand people who can accept things like biotics, mass relays, aliens of all kinds, etc, but not 'naked armour' .

It's pretty simple: biotics, relays and aliens are just some of the premises of the setting.  'Naked armor' isn't. It in fact contradicts previously established facts in the setting, and no attempt to explain or even handwave it is made.  It's not that it's just "unrealistic" in some absolute sense.  It's that it's unrealistic even by the standards of the ME world.

[SennenScale]

Babe Mause wrote...

I can never understand people who can accept things like biotics, mass relays, aliens of all kinds, etc, but not 'naked armour' .

To echo the previous poster, that's stuff is part of the ME universe and lore. The lack of armor directly contradicts established ME lore.

[JunMadine]

I work around the breathing mask issue by taking the squad members that have full protection from...

Toxic atmosphere, vacuum and high\\low pressure environments where applicable.

I believe that the alternate appearance packs address the lack of armor for most. Tali gets an armored suit, Thane a sealed suit, Garrus a non-damaged armor and Miranda gets armor. Legion does not need armor, Zaeed has armor (face mask helps in toxic atmosphere not in vacuum), Grunt fully armored, Jacob has a light combat suit iffy but still better then Miranda's outfit (no vacuum or hazardous protection), Jack is crazy so why not go into battle half naked (really she should have more armor, alternate outfit has armored vest though), Kasumi and Samara can be qualified like Jacob light combat suit. Mordin should not be taken into combat, he is too valuable as a scientist as for his suit maybe salarian biology reacts differently to vacuum.

All that said (sorry its long) going into combat with armor is the sane choice, full helmet protection from hazardous environments also sane. Rule of cool is nice and all but given how much research and effort put into keeping game realistic this is a disappointment.

[didymos1120]

JunMadine wrote...
 Mordin should not be taken into combat, he is too valuable as a scientist as for his suit maybe salarian biology reacts differently to vacuum.
 

Mordin's wearing armor.  I don't know why people think he's not. He just doesn't have a full helmet.

[J0HNL3I]

they were put in to make nerdy people buy the game *runs away from haters*

[JunMadine]

didymos1120 wrote...

JunMadine wrote...
 Mordin should not be taken into combat, he is too valuable as a scientist as for his suit maybe salarian biology reacts differently to vacuum.
 

Mordin's wearing armor.  I don't know why people think he's not. He just doesn't have a full helmet.

I wasn't saying that he did not have armor I was saying that he should not be taken in to combat as his position aboard the Normandy is too important to risk his death.

His armor is fine and as far as his breath mask it may be all he needs to protect from hazardous environments.  He is salarian and his biology may not need a pressurized suit. Unlike humans.

Modifié par JunMadine, 01 mai 2011 - 03:33 .

[corporal doody]

Mordin was STG. dude can handle himself.

[didymos1120]

nvm

Modifié par didymos1120, 01 mai 2011 - 03:34 .

[corporal doody]

they need to give us a future celt! fighting naked! wearing only future face paint! cuz real bada**es dont need clothes to fight!...in the future!

i have no clue what i mean...other than it is not uncommon for some to have fought with less than fullplate.

in a fantasy world...either way is cool. a super model wearing a leather bikini and high heels wielding a +5 vorpal blade is cool.

in ME...it can be cool too...just not in a vaccuum.  on ship or the citadel or in a area with air..and it makes sense that they dont need to have on some kind of equipment for survivabilty's sake...im cool with that

Modifié par corporal doody, 01 mai 2011 - 03:43 .

[didymos1120]

JunMadine wrote...

His armor is fine and as far as his breath mask it may be all he needs to protect from hazardous environments.  He is salarian and his biology may not need a pressurized suit. Unlike humans.

And you'd think this because....why?  I mean, salarians are noted for being more physically fragile than other species, so why would they have some special 'vacuum immunity' or whatever? 

Modifié par didymos1120, 01 mai 2011 - 03:36 .

[JunMadine]

I was saying that the mask he wears with his suit may be all he needs in vacuum. I just didn't specify that I was only refering to the mask in his case before.

[Pani Mauser]

didymos1120 wrote...


It's pretty simple: biotics, relays and aliens are just some of the premises of the setting.  'Naked armor' isn't. It in fact contradicts previously established facts in the setting, and no attempt to explain or even handwave it is made.  It's not that it's just "unrealistic" in some absolute sense.  It's that it's unrealistic even by the standards of the ME world.

I think of it this way. While Shepard was dead, many things have changed in ME-Universe. This change is established by the lore. You see thermal clips instead of overheat, hacking/bypassing instead of using omni-gel, and bunch of upgrade to the Normandy, which was the most advanced ship only two years ago. ME-Universe science made a giant leap after battle of Citadel. 

Sovereign was into pieces, and according to Anderson, many parts were lost. Maybe, they were taken to private labs and scientists got something new out of them. Remember that asari seller on Illium with stolen prototype? She said it is very advanced design and it is not yet publicly available. You never got to know what it was exactly. And who knows what else is in development on Noveria?

So I presume, in last two years they might also develop upgrades to shields/barriers that protect against radiation, extreme temperatures and pressure differences. Maybe those things were in prototype stage, and most people don’t know of their existence yet. Illusive man managed to bring Shepard back to life, so he definitely could get such advanced shields for the team too.

Of course, it is only my assumption, and if people want to suffer about inappropriate looks of squadmates – who am I to forbid it? I think my reasoning fits in the lore pretty well, and the fact that it is not mentioned on the codex doesn’t bother me. I bet tons of things from the lore were never mentioned there. They can’t write down everything after all.

Modifié par Babe Mause, 01 mai 2011 - 04:05 .

[JunMadine]

didymos1120 wrote...

JunMadine wrote...

His armor is fine and as far as his breath mask it may be all he needs to protect from hazardous environments.  He is salarian and his biology may not need a pressurized suit. Unlike humans.

And you'd think this because....why?  I mean, salarians are noted for being more physically fragile than other species, so why would they have some special 'vacuum immunity' or whatever? 

Just trying not to be too hard on Bioware.  It really bothered me when you go to the collector vessel or the derelict reaper you Shepard wearing a helmet and then Jack, Jacob, Mirande etc only with a breather mask.  I know humans need pressurized suits in space.  Mass effect fields and biotic barriers are not reliable enough to maintain pressure in combat.  The moment barrier integrity fails you should die and medi-gel can't save you.  When it comes to Mordin I just gave him the benefit of the doubt with the mask. 

[Iakus]

Mordin:  I can squint and pretend he's wearing armor under his lab coat.  At least he wears a full helmet.

Jack:  Sorry, I have a shirt and shoes policy for my squad

Samara:  Fine if she'd just zip up.  And get a full helmet

Thane:  As a sneaky assasin who strikes from the shadows, is fine.  But the gameplay doesn't really allow for that.  Therefore, really not dressed for the occassion.  Also, no helmet

Jacob:  Just needs a cape and cowl to be Cerberus Man, Champion of Humanity!  When did Mass Effect become a superhero IP?

Miranda:  I get it Bioware, you have the technology to make very pretty women appear on my screen.  Now get some armor for them so they can stay pretty.

Tali:  Armored enviroment suit.  Strong shields.  Okay, you're on the team.

Kasumi:  Well, unlike Thane, at least you can strike unseen from the shadows.  Just get a real helmet and you're fine.

Zaeed:  Repair that sleeve and get a real helmet, and you're fine.

Morinth:  At least your original outfit was asari commando armor.  A pity you have to wear your mother's clothes as a disguise.

Garrus:  Perfect, except he never gets around to fixing that battle damage.

Legion:  Yeah that hole is annoying.  Otherwise fine.  Maybe I can lend him an N7 breastplate.

Grunt:  Good, but missing sleeves.  Maybe he gets a pass because, you know, krogan.  But I wouldn't take any chances.