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[Satyricon331]

TJPags wrote...
Nope. The Warden seems out of place without a Blight or some major DS menace. We just had a Blight, and right after that we had a major DS menace.

I liked the Warden a lot more than I did Hawke. And I don't mind a silent PC at all. But even my Wardens who did the DR - and that's all of them, btw - don't always care so much about Morrigan or the OGB. And some people don't have an OGB in their worlds.

Making that choice canon might just be the worst move Bioware could make.

Coming from the other side of the DR choice, and as a big DAO fan, I agree with this post completely.

I'll add I'm totally done with Hawke as player character too.

[Harid]

We will never see the Warden Again.

However it will be awkward for them to bring back Morrigan or the OGB without the Warden, so I have the feeling that outside of a random boss, or something due to import data, we won't see the latter again, and the former. . .well, who will care about outside of Origins players who liked Morrigan.

Modifié par Harid, 26 avril 2011 - 07:43 .

[Sussurus]

Given what Carver says in chapter three, and many conversations in game ( except Alistairs with romanced warden.)

"The warden" may not be back but a Hawke warden may be in the cards at least in a dlc, expansion.

[Fast Jimmy]

People are saying how their Warden didn't do the DR and instead died in the US...

...let us not forget, if you started Awakenings without a previous import character, they gave you an Orlesian Warden. Why in the world could this not be the Warden that they are talking about?

The OGB will become canon. It may be hand waved by saying that they were able to recover the archdemon's soul in some crazy way that was harder, but able to be done outside of the DR, but it will be back. I mean... it is a god reborn. The possibility for great, unique storylines that could be epic are limitless. I doubt they will make it a PC, but it will have a role in the future.

Let's say... turns out there was a Warden survivor from Ostagar. Ignorant of the treaties that had been recovered, this unknown Warden struggled to fight the Horde back using guerilla tactics. When the Horde forces split, going to Redcliffe and Denerim, he went to Redcliffe. After our Warden denied Morrigan the DR, she senses him fighting among the Darkspawn, jumps his bones... end of story. Nothing canon broken at all.

Bioware could do a much better version of it, but it is very easy to make the OGB canon. And the story telling opportunities are so great, Bioware won't be able to resist. They won't just make one little conversation or cameo for something that big. They will want to use it as a major plot device. So they will hand wave it and use it. People who think otherwise are, in my opinion, too blinded by their own choices to believe Bioware would ever mess with them.

[Auroras]

I would like closure, for sure, but they could do that without having us play as our Wardens. I'd like a new protaganist, tbh.

[Faroth]

I think my Warden would come back alongside Morrigan to smack Hawke around for mucking up everything so tremendously and show him how you're supposed to handle a crisis.

Seriously, the "voiceless" Warden had more personality because *I* imposed my thoughts and opinions into the decisions. The voiceless protagonist was bad in the 90s because in Chrono Trigger and similar games, they had no personality and no input. By having you make choices and decide what you say, the "voiceless" Warden had your voice, making it quite different and Origins stood apart from the generic RPG.

Hawke....had no decisions. Nothing made any real change, it was the same result Bioware dictated to happen. Sorry, but I find Hawke is just another protagonist alongside Cloud, Squall, and all the other Final Fantasy protagonists. I never felt like I owned Hawke. I did feel like I owned my Warden.

Put my supposedly voiceless Warden and Hawke in DA3 alongside one another. I promise hilarity will ensue!!!

[Viyu]

I don't want the Warden to come back since I don't want to feel like I have to give up the romance options I pursued last game to pursue new ones. I would LIKE to pursue newer ones though too, which is why I don't want to play Hawke either. Another reason I don't want to play Hawke is that Hawke made no REAL decisions of his/her own and did not seem like a player defined character rather than a run of the mill "but-thou-must" type.

I don't mind the character having a voice, I'd prefer to have different opitons though like the first. I like the fact femhawke sounds girly though.

Modifié par Viyu, 26 avril 2011 - 04:09 .

[Beerfish]

I 100% wholly support, there being no warden in DA3. Unless we dredge up another blight the wardens are just a waste of resources in the land. By that last little convo between Agent Nightingale and Cassandra I have a feeling we will be seeing both the warden and Hawke back in DA3. Say hello to multiplayer.

[Viyu]

@ Beerfish:

That'd be awesome if you were responsible for the decisions of 3 characters from all your saves rather than just the one. That way your old relationships can get developed if you want them to. But so long as we have a new person I'm fine. And for God's sake can we get a human commoner? I'd like a glimpse of the life of an ordinary person who didn't have a title they could take advantage of when petitioning to the viscount like the Hawke family, or a whole bunch of oppressive extremes like people living in the circle, or people living in the alienage etc. I want to know how the average Ferelden family lives.

[Alamar2078]

I would be totally fine with yet another new character to concentrate on for DA3.

I'd be OK if Hawke's story [and companions] were finished up in DLCs or similar. IMHO Hawke's story is personal and too many DLCs or sequels would have too great of a chance of ruining the feel of that character. If Hawke returns in a new game they'd just have to explain why his romantic interest is no longer with him .... honestly I would just rather they left that part alone and didn't ruin the one thing that Hawke took with him when he left.

As for the Warden I'm mostly satisfied with where the stories / DLC went. I have one going off with Morrigan and I always assumed that was a one way trip. Another Warden I don't see putting down roots as that would bind Leliana more than her nature would allow -- well so much for the best laid plans. Another was supposed to go back to Orzamaar ... Another just wanted to see the world BURN after his parents were murdered in front of him .... Basically I don't really have too many Wardens that would want to stick their noses in the Mage vs. Templar conflict.

[Must have name]

The Warden is a big no for me. I'm worried about a lot of the "setup" revolving around the Warden and Hawke disappearing also. The Warden's story is finished for me. I'd rather he not appear in anything, except maybe a mention.

A big yes for me is something like the Warden, but a new character. A non-voiced protagonist with either a generic background or multiple origins with explicit dialogue lines. Not that it will happen though.

Modifié par Must have name, 26 avril 2011 - 04:25 .

[Lewie]

I can't see it happening again. They've done it. It would have to be something totally different a wardens sole mission is to conquer a blight. I have wondered where Stroud was going and why though, considering he takes Bethany if you give her to them. If Hawke continues Bethany would have to also. Unless you just get a mail saying she died. Ugh. No.

[Viyu]

PurebredCorn wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

I 100% wholly support, there being no warden in DA3. Unless we dredge up another blight the wardens are just a waste of resources in the land. By that last little convo between Agent Nightingale and Cassandra I have a feeling we will be seeing both the warden and Hawke back in DA3. Say hello to multiplayer.

Really? You really think multiplayer? I never really thought of that. I kinda hope they don't, I like the single player. I'm not particularly attached to either my Warden or Hawke so a new character for DA3 would be fine with me. In fact I miss the old Origins, but I doubt they will bring them back for the third game.

I think the problem with the Warden is that they didn't have much of a backstory or past, unlike Hawke. And in the case of the noble, there seemed to be this assumption that we were supposed to care about the Cousland family dying when we only knew them for less than 10 minutes. I think it'd be interesting if there was a character who had to LEARN how to fight under different masters for different techniques and did not have all the privileges and advantages the other characters did.

[Viyu]

Must have name wrote...

The Warden is a big no for me. I'm worried about a lot of the "setup" revolving around the Warden and Hawke disappearing also. The Warden's story is finished for me. I'd rather he not appear in anything, except maybe a mention.

A big yes for me is something like the Warden, but a new character. A non-voiced protagonist with either a generic background or multiple origins with explicit dialogue lines. Not that it will happen though.

It'd be interesting if a villain keeps kidnapping these heroes. It'd be an ironic challenge that you'd have to master and defeat the character you created, with all the skills and talents you gave them becomming a disadvantage to you.

Modifié par Viyu, 26 avril 2011 - 04:32 .

[Nepenthe87]

I'd really like to see something brand new in DA3. I don't like Hawke at all and wouldn't really appreciate medieval Shepard being forced upon me again. I don't want the warden either because without a blight or real darkspawn menace he has no reason to do anything.

I'd really like to have a protagonist who lives an "enchanted" life. And by that i mean someone like the wardens who have the ability to go anywhere and do anything, so when I'm casting spells in the middle of town as an apostate, it doesn't break the immersion when I'm not arrested for doing so.

Basically I want a protagonist who is larger than life again, rather than joe schmoe who was always in the right place at the right time.

[Sussurus]

PurebredCorn wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

I 100% wholly support, there being no warden in DA3. Unless we dredge up another blight the wardens are just a waste of resources in the land. By that last little convo between Agent Nightingale and Cassandra I have a feeling we will be seeing both the warden and Hawke back in DA3. Say hello to multiplayer.

Really? You really think multiplayer? I never really thought of that. I kinda hope they don't, I like the single player. I'm not particularly attached to either my Warden or Hawke so a new character for DA3 would be fine with me. In fact I miss the old Origins, but I doubt they will bring them back for the third game.

If they did go multiplayer, I think everyone that hated DA:2 and still remained would quit.
Those that liked it but not as much for whichever reasons would quit.
Basically I see anyone that actually played the first two and play for rpg reasons quiting.

Turning DA into a action, fantasy, focused on single narrative, story based morpg is too many genres to cross even for the level headed gamers.

Myself if multiplayer is included and focused on, I'd not buy the game and feel overlooked as a long time consumer of the company and genre.

[Addai]

No more Warden, and no more Hawke except in some DLC.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Ideally, the Warden should come back as some did not have any closure at all despite a 7$ DLC promising to deliver.

But that's not going to happen. So new character, as I do not want to play as Hawke ever again. Create a more competent, pro-active and useful character please.

[EmperorSahlertz]

They could easily bring back the Warden and Hawke, and still make a new character, all in the same game.

[Viyu]

I really don't want to play Hawke again though. I hope she and Fenris are happily ever after somewhere but that's it. Anders needs to come back and so does Varric, for no other reason than to remedy the plotholes placed upon the story and the mythos because of them.

[Phoenix92254]

As much as I liked Hawke I would be content if his story wrapped up in DLC and we get to play as a brand new character, but there has to be a resolution in the God Baby/Morrigan/Flemeth storyline

Modifié par Phoenix92254, 26 avril 2011 - 05:19 .

[Viyu]

Agreed. I think this franchise could learn a thing or two from SEGA's ongoing problem with too many characters. Finish up the stories and loose ends with old characters before introducing so many new ones.

[ReallyRue]

That's alright. I'm not so fussed about continuing the story of a 'character' I'd rather retire. And some of my characters are dead or didn't do anything with the OGB, so, I'm pretty sure they couldn't be in it.

I think I'd rather see someone new.

[Viyu]

And with long hair this time, dammit! LOL