DarthSliver wrote...
The comic is only there for new games I believe.
No, you get it for imports too. For new games, it becomes interactive at points and you can pick what Shep did.
Will Spectre re-instatment effect the trial in ME3?
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 07:28
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No, you get it for imports too. For new games, it becomes interactive at points and you can pick what Shep did.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 07:36
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didymos1120 wrote...
DarthSliver wrote...
The comic is only there for new games I believe.
No, you get it for imports too. For new games, it becomes interactive at points and you can pick what Shep did.
Oh thats makes sense, interactive comic for new games and just a comic for imports
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 07:42
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DarthSliver wrote...
didymos1120 wrote...
DarthSliver wrote...
The comic is only there for new games I believe.
No, you get it for imports too. For new games, it becomes interactive at points and you can pick what Shep did.
Oh thats makes sense, interactive comic for new games and just a comic for imports
They better make it skippable though, or I swear....
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 07:51
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Whether it affects the trial or not, I at least want this to be mentioned one way or the other.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 07:52
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I doubt the trial will matter sentence wise. It's just an excuse to start the story at a set location rather than wandering around in space. It will probably just be a recap of Shep's actions to give a player of reminder of what they've done throughout the story, reintroduce characters that didn't appear much in ME2 like the Council, Anderson Udina or the VS, and introduce some new characters. And maybe give the player a hint as to which races they should be looking into recruiting for the war.
And just when the sentence is about to be passed, or immediately afterwards to show drama, the Reapers appear and the trial is rendered moot.
And just when the sentence is about to be passed, or immediately afterwards to show drama, the Reapers appear and the trial is rendered moot.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 07:58
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alliance brass is calling you in not the council
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 08:21
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Gabey5 wrote...
alliance brass is calling you in not the council
Yeah, and? That's the point of this thread: they can't do that to an active Spectre. Well, they can make the demand, but a Spectre can just ignore it. The Council would have to revoke your status and say "Fine. All yours."
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 08:36
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You just killed 300000 people and the council doesn't want a war.. They will un instate u, which in turn would allow the alliance to put u on trial
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 10:57
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didymos1120 wrote...
No. The Council will un-reinstate your ass so fast, the turian won't even have time to say "Ah, yes. 'Spectre'." You did exactly what Saren got his status yanked for, only you actually succeeded in wiping out the entire colony.
This
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 10:59
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Just pointing something out: What makes people think the trial will have an actual ruling? The main reason for the trial, it seems, is to get Shep to Earth for the reaper attack. I've got a feeling that the trial will be quickly interrupted by the opening cinematic.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 11:15
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I was wondering, when you first enter the Citadel in ME2 you discover your official status is deceased and you can ask Bailey to leave it this way.
How can they put a dead wo/man on trial?
And i thought Shepard's reinstatement was rather unofficial and kept on the down low in the first place, so it would be easily deniable by the council.
I'd rather see Shepard put in front of a batarian court where they sentence him to life on a very cold moon to work in the mines, but that might be a little to much undiscovered country for some.
How can they put a dead wo/man on trial?
And i thought Shepard's reinstatement was rather unofficial and kept on the down low in the first place, so it would be easily deniable by the council.
I'd rather see Shepard put in front of a batarian court where they sentence him to life on a very cold moon to work in the mines, but that might be a little to much undiscovered country for some.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 11:24
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Don't think so. It could affect some dialogue choices if you're lucky, but most likely the council will have kicked Shep's spectre ass to the curve regardless if they resinstated him/her in ME2. The reinstatement came with the demand that Shep keeps a low profile, which you can't really say he/she did when they destroyed a mass relay by launching a bunch of batarians into it. My guess is that by the time for the trial the position as human spectre will already have been filled by the VS.
Also, as the earth will be attacked in the middle of the trial and Shepard will escape there will likely never be a verdict anyway, at least not until Shep has either died or saved the galaxy.
Also, as the earth will be attacked in the middle of the trial and Shepard will escape there will likely never be a verdict anyway, at least not until Shep has either died or saved the galaxy.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 12:28
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Sure it will. "I'm a Spectre." "Nope, revoked it again. lol."
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 01:01
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I expect that a sentence will be re-worded. That's probably it.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 01:07
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There's also the point that the Alliance is on the Council, or for all intents and purposes the Alliance IS the Council.KnightofPhoenix wrote...
In theory, it should. But since the other members of the council would not want to deal with such a diplomatic disaster, and because Humanity needs to dissociate itself from Shepard as clearly as possible, the Specter status in practice would, I believe, become mostly irrelevent.
At which point 'only the Council can charge me!' gets a swift 'We are the Council!'
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 02:31
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KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Renegade interrupt in the trial. Could be interesting.
I would prefer this renegade interupt.
Also it's likely that Shepard will face a military tribunal similar to what is shown in the clip. Where only top level military personnel will show along with the human members of his crew.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 02:46
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not sure how it would... most earth-first folks in Mass Effect 1 didn't like you working with the council anyways and saw the spectres as throwing humanity a bone
inevitably they were right in many ways, Shepard was dumped when the inconvenience of Saren was "taken care of", not to mention i doubt the council would ever back you up just for political reasons - they don't want to be seen publicly backing the man who just killed 300,000 batarians and you worked with Cerberus anyways regardless if you accepted reinstatement or not (and no they won't care if you flipped off TIM at the end)... hell even Tela Vasir would get preferential treatment over Shepard, never forget that the council are a bunch of goons
inevitably they were right in many ways, Shepard was dumped when the inconvenience of Saren was "taken care of", not to mention i doubt the council would ever back you up just for political reasons - they don't want to be seen publicly backing the man who just killed 300,000 batarians and you worked with Cerberus anyways regardless if you accepted reinstatement or not (and no they won't care if you flipped off TIM at the end)... hell even Tela Vasir would get preferential treatment over Shepard, never forget that the council are a bunch of goons
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 02:51
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SPECTRE?!?
No. For once in his life, Shepard will break free of the shackles that hold him down, for a brief few moments in ME3 he will shake the reigns you wimpy paragons hold on him and shove that SpecTRe status right up the Council's collective ass(es)!
Then he'll go to trial
No. For once in his life, Shepard will break free of the shackles that hold him down, for a brief few moments in ME3 he will shake the reigns you wimpy paragons hold on him and shove that SpecTRe status right up the Council's collective ass(es)!
Then he'll go to trial
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 02:55
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Antivenger wrote...
SPECTRE?!?
No. For once in his life, Shepard will break free of the shackles that hold him down, for a brief few moments in ME3 he will shake the reigns you wimpy paragons hold on him and shove that SpecTRe status right up the Council's collective ass(es)!
Then he'll go to trial
spectres are just pawns of the council anyways... pawns that are above the law except when politically embarrassing or inconvenient, the council is always giving you unlimited power in one hand and cuffing you with the other to save face
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 03:00
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88mphSlayer wrote...
Spectres are just pawns of the council anyways... pawns that are above the law except when politically embarrassing or inconvenient, the council is always giving you unlimited power in one hand and cuffing you with the other to save face
And this is why Garrus left to become the hero Omega deserves.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 03:07
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Who needs evidence when they darken the sky of every world? and you know who I am talking about....
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 03:09
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Dean_the_Young wrote...
There's also the point that the Alliance is on the Council, or for all intents and purposes the Alliance IS the Council.KnightofPhoenix wrote...
In theory, it should. But since the other members of the council would not want to deal with such a diplomatic disaster, and because Humanity needs to dissociate itself from Shepard as clearly as possible, the Specter status in practice would, I believe, become mostly irrelevent.
At which point 'only the Council can charge me!' gets a swift 'We are the Council!'
Yea, if it's the latter situation, the Alliance can trial whatever Specter it wants. Indeed, it apaprently even blocks Specter recruitment with Udina.
But in a "equitable council", is it only the appriopriate species / institution that gets to trial a Specter? Or all 4 together? I'd think all 4 together should trial him, untless they revoke the status, which is probably what happened to Shepard.
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Posté 26 avril 2011 - 03:09
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Like I said before:didymos1120 wrote...
Gabey5 wrote...
alliance brass is calling you in not the council
Yeah, and? That's the point of this thread: they can't do that to an active Spectre. Well, they can make the demand, but a Spectre can just ignore it. The Council would have to revoke your status and say "Fine. All yours."
Alliance authory > Council authority
To paraphrase Thane: "Council law only works if everyone involved agrees to be bound by it." If the three other Councilors suddenly decide they want to keep Shepard from trial, the Alliance can simply threathen to quit the Council or start a war and gone is every single bit of unofficial authority they ever had over Shepard.
