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[Thompson family]

didymos1120 wrote...

No. The Council will un-reinstate your ass so fast, the turian won't even have time to say "Ah, yes. 'Spectre'." You did exactly what Saren got his status yanked for, only you actually succeeded in wiping out the entire colony.

That about sums it up.

[Nashiktal]

Thompson family wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

No. The Council will un-reinstate your ass so fast, the turian won't even have time to say "Ah, yes. 'Spectre'." You did exactly what Saren got his status yanked for, only you actually succeeded in wiping out the entire colony.

That about sums it up.

Colony? You wiped out more than the colony. Not to mention destroying a relay is a terrible act in itself. You are forever cutting off direct travel to and from wherever that relay might have led.

[crimzontearz]

yes,in the sense that there will be a line about the council revoking it

[Moiaussi]

Saren didn't lose status until after his trial. If Shepard was reinstated, all it means is that the Alliance tries Shepard as a Spectre rather than as a civilian.

And the answer to "I am a Spectre" is "That means you are answerable to the Council, and as of the aftermath of the Citadel War, the Alliance are members of that Council. Now sit down, Shepard. You are making a fool out of yourself."

[Fiery Phoenix]

Thompson family wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

No. The Council will un-reinstate your ass so fast, the turian won't even have time to say "Ah, yes. 'Spectre'." You did exactly what Saren got his status yanked for, only you actually succeeded in wiping out the entire colony.

That about sums it up.

+1

There really is nothing more to it than that.

[Dean_the_Young]

Spectres don't need to have been convicted to lose their status.

[Verwijs]

I guess the trial will wait with earth being attacked by the Reaper and all...

[Costin_Razvan]

I am still trying to figure out why Shepard would turn himself/herself in.

Don't get me wrong I am all for avoiding a war with the Batarians, but the Alliance can go to hell for I care.

[Moiaussi]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Spectres don't need to have been convicted to lose their status.

And your precident is? Shepard lost his on presumption of death and a 2 year MIA (although he never officially lost it, which is a huge plot hole since noone formally informs him of the loss of status).

[KnightofPhoenix]

Costin_Razvan wrote...

I am still trying to figure out why Shepard would turn himself/herself in.

Don't get me wrong I am all for avoiding a war with the Batarians, but the Alliance can go to hell for I care.

Because Shepard can't resist Hackett's voice.

Proof? Instead of following Saren, he keeps doing Hackett some "favors". Like assassinating Alliance appointed dictators.

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 26 avril 2011 - 03:37 .

[Ashrite]

Tbh the alliance cant do **** to Shepard first off all he's a War hero he brought humanity to the Top and the First human Spectre and don't Forget the council say that spectre are suppose to do anything within there powers to protect the universe so imo the trial is just a waste of time for Shepard

[Zulu_DFA]

The spectre status will affect the trial... not.

[Fat Headed Wolf]

Zulu_DFA wrote...

The spectre status will affect the trial... not.

I totally agree with you, but, I don't think that joke works in text form. 

[Thompson family]

One factor apparently hasn't been mentioned: Shep turns him/herself in.

Now I play insufferable Paragon saint myself, so Frank Shepard is willing to face the music. I assume Renegades come "face the music" because they would be declared outlaws and be hunted down by all the Council races if Shep doesn't show up. Either way, being a Spectre or not, the very fact Shep shows up for trial means it doesn't help much.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Paragons face Pop music; Renegades face Rap music.

[Costin_Razvan]

Whatever argument anyone might have about Shepard not have the option to run is trumped by the fact Shepard can be good friends with Liara who becomes the bloody Shadow Broker.

I very much doubt she wouldn't be able to hide Shepard if she wanted to, hell Shepard could just move in her ship and no one would find him.

[Thrombin]

I think people are forgetting the fact that Shepard has been asked to volunteer to be the fall guy to save the Galaxy from war. It's irrelevant whether the alliance can force him to be on trial, it's even irrelevant whether he can be punished. As long as he stands up and says that he did it and that the alliance had nothing to do with it then he can avert war with the Batarians. That's why he is presumably doing this voluntarily.

Regards

Julian

[Dean_the_Young]

Moiaussi wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Spectres don't need to have been convicted to lose their status.

And your precident is? Shepard lost his on presumption of death and a 2 year MIA (although he never officially lost it, which is a huge plot hole since noone formally informs him of the loss of status).

That would be one precident. Another is that Saren was never found guilty in any trial: Shepard was sent so that Saren could be brought in to face charges.

[crimzontearz]

what Thronbin said

[Elite Midget]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Spectres don't need to have been convicted to lose their status.

Not true. Before Saren was convicted he kept his Spectre status. Evidence was presented that Saren had gone Rogue thus he was stripped of his title and Shepard was sent to bring him in for his punishment. There has been no known cases of a Spectre loseing their status without them being convicted of a heinous crime.

Thus you can be a Spectre still, if you didn't cuss out the Council, but it's just a Title and those that downplayed Shepard after his death will merely laugh at said Title.

Modifié par Elite Midget, 26 avril 2011 - 04:45 .

[KenKenpachi]

Moiaussi wrote...

Saren didn't lose status until after his trial. If Shepard was reinstated, all it means is that the Alliance tries Shepard as a Spectre rather than as a civilian.

And the answer to "I am a Spectre" is "That means you are answerable to the Council, and as of the aftermath of the Citadel War, the Alliance are members of that Council. Now sit down, Shepard. You are making a fool out of yourself."

I think that had more to do with there being no proof. When they had even a little amount of it, they sacked his ass. Alot of people it can be assumed will know what shepard did.

[Zulu_DFA]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Moiaussi wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Spectres don't need to have been convicted to lose their status.

And your precident is? Shepard lost his on presumption of death and a 2 year MIA (although he never officially lost it, which is a huge plot hole since noone formally informs him of the loss of status).

That would be one precident. Another is that Saren was never found guilty in any trial: Shepard was sent so that Saren could be brought in to face charges.

But the Council did have a hearing into the matter and even cleared Saren, after giving hem an opportunutiny to speak for himself, the first time Udina came forward with the suit.

And they revoked Shepard's status "in absentia" due to the fact that the half of him that still existed wasn't exactly fit for speaking for itself, let alone for duty, even if the Council knew Shepard wasn't totally dead.

But with the plothole BioWare is trying to feed us, and Shepard shoehorned into cooperating with the authorities, there is zero in-game reason for the Council to not interfere with the trial, especially (but not only) if Shepard is techically a spectre.

[TomY90]

yeah if you were reinstated the mission will be classified and no evidence for the trail and of course the mission was off the books so the alliance is meant to have no knowledge nor involvement in the matter so it will just fall flat as soon as it reduces the courts.

But if you told them to go away then its likely to be a harsher trial and likely more evidence against you but yet again the mission was off the books so the evidence will be not 100% reliable and their is no witnesses to it. (except for if you messaged the planet to tell them to evacuate but that was grainy and short)

but interviews said people who have not got the DLC packs will not be punished for it so likely it will be one of those that will have little to no effect

Modifié par TomY90, 26 avril 2011 - 04:56 .

[Clonedzero]

it probably will.
thats why i never get reinstated. screw those guys, plus i wanna see how bad the trial can go lol