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Is this seriously Ashley's new armor?


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#251
Mr. MannlyMan

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DxWill10 wrote...

It always makes me laugh when guys complain about a girl looking too good. You don't like her make-up? You don't like her sexy hair attractively let down? You don't want her in a sexy outfit like Miranda?

Maybe I just love women too much to be upset one of the characters is getting better looking


Also makes me laugh when guys who hated Ashley in ME1 and 2 want to bone her now because they've seen her with makeup. Also makes me laugh when guys are more concerned with a videogame character's sex appeal than with... I dunno... their 'character'.

Maybe you just love women too much to come off as anything other than a pervert.

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Mr. MannlyMan

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Fracking Double Post

Modifié par Mr. MannlyMan, 27 avril 2011 - 08:50 .


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It is the nature of men to be perverts. It is how we show it (or don't show it) that distinguishes one from another...also there are some introverted (or was it inverted) men who don't really care about any women.

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Bimbos are trendy.

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Lol now we are perverts to be attracted to women. How could we, we perverts! I hope everyone of you is single you perverts!

But seriously ... I liked her looks in ME and I think it improved. But I am sticking with Liara anyway because my Shep is that faithful. And she is blue. And I want a bunch of blue little children.

Modifié par AlexXIV, 27 avril 2011 - 09:37 .


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Can we wait until we see a little more of her before we all go crazy? For all we know this is her Normandy outfit, with her back in her hair-tied armour-y glory during combat.

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DxWill10 wrote...

It always makes me laugh when guys complain about a girl looking too good. You don't like her make-up? You don't like her sexy hair attractively let down? You don't want her in a sexy outfit like Miranda?

Maybe I just love women too much to be upset one of the characters is getting better looking


It's clear you lack any respect for women or any self-respect for yourself. That's very sad.

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AlexXIV wrote...

Lol now we are perverts to be attracted to women. How could we, we perverts! I hope everyone of you is single you perverts!

But seriously ... I liked her looks in ME and I think it improved. But I am sticking with Liara anyway because my Shep is that faithful. And she is blue. And I want a bunch of blue little children.


If by improved you mean turned into a pallete swap of Miranda then it sure has improved.

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Elite Midget wrote...

It's clear you lack any respect for women or any self-respect for yourself. That's very sad.


Being attracted to attractive people doesn't imply a lack of respect for others or for oneself.

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CaptainZaysh wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

It's clear you lack any respect for women or any self-respect for yourself. That's very sad.


Being attracted to attractive people doesn't imply a lack of respect for others or for oneself.

I'm currently being vividly reminded about the varying criteria of 'respecting women' across cultures, on the entire spectrum of 'respect means being free to stare at however much skin a girl wants to show, because they can make the choice,' to 'respect means not looking at or talking to a non-family female unless addressed first.'

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I don't find sluty, spandex clothes atractive. Just as belts and strapons. Sorry. I like when my girlfriend is wearing dresses and skirts. Because I'm that chauvinistic...

Modifié par Mr.Kusy, 27 avril 2011 - 10:57 .


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CaptainZaysh wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

It's clear you lack any respect for women or any self-respect for yourself. That's very sad.


Being attracted to attractive people doesn't imply a lack of respect for others or for oneself.


I agree you on this one captainzaysh you can be attracted to attractive people for both their personality and of course looks like I know i couple very attractive women but I do respect them because they are really nice, friendly and funny (not stuck up like some of the other attractive women I have met)

it seems rude to me to tell someone they have a lack for any respect for women when you do not know them but i do know some people who do not have any respect for women but you make judgement on them once you got to know them not just from a forum about a game character you have to remember its just a game character we can make perceptions we normally not able to make in real life because for one that character will not get offended we say something

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TomY90 wrote...
it seems rude to me to tell someone they have a lack for any respect for women when you do not know them but i do know some people who do not have any respect for women but you make judgement on them once you got to know them not just from a forum about a game character you have to remember its just a game character we can make perceptions we normally not able to make in real life because for one that character will not get offended we say something


You obvuiosly have no respect for narwhals and South Africa, and yes, I deducted this from your post and am 100% positive it's true.

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Mr.Kusy wrote...

I don't find sluty, spandex clothes atractive. Just as belts and strapons. Sorry. I like when my girlfriend is wearing dresses and skirts. Because I'm that chauvinistic...


We need to see some pics of her in both types of outfit to form our opinions properly, Mr Kusy.

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CaptainZaysh wrote...
We need to see some pics of her in both types of outfit to form our opinions properly, Mr Kusy.


Now don't be disrespectfull sir! Or I'll have to slap you.

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This discussion of respect for women is ridiculous. Stop on that, this forum is not the media to talk about such things and return to the topic.

Anyway, This topic is useless, the same people who complain about the same thing a month ago. Without having information, even just speculating on their irrational fear and a small image.

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I thought kinetic barriers provided far more protection than the actual armour; isn't that why lots of the characters walk around hostile environments in bare skin? They don't necessarily need heavy armour.

Bioware decided it was time to update her character; maybe with her promotion she has become more confident. Maybe this is just her casual wear. Her being an Alliance soldier may well be second to her being a Spectre now (it obviously is on rank, but I mean in her head) so wearing heavy Alliance armour may not be a priority. We haven't even seen the full suit, so it may well look more like armour than we think.

Besides, you know if they'd used the same model for Ash then there'd be different fans complaining they'd been lazy and unfair as other characters had been updated and changed. They can't please everyone, so decided that the VS fans who have been clamouring for their return would like to see a changed character who has developed rather than being greeted with the same characters that were in ME1 when all the other characters have changed and grown as characters.

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Ashley being a spectre. WILLLLD SPECULATION!

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Elite Midget

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CaptainZaysh wrote...

Elite Midget wrote...

It's clear you lack any respect for women or any self-respect for yourself. That's very sad.


Being attracted to attractive people doesn't imply a lack of respect for others or for oneself.


It does when they're a-okay with woman wearing catsuits in space and fully approve of it when it was already established the merits of wearing armor in said Universe. Thus the only logical conclusion is that they have no respect for woman and want them to look 'sexed up' for their viewing pleasure. Ergo they see them as objects for their sexual attention and it's a huge diservice to all woman characters in video games.

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Sylvianus wrote...
Anyway, This topic is useless, the same people who complain about the same thing a month ago. Without having information, even just speculating on their irrational fear and a small image.

It's hardly irrational.

When we were first shown Miranda and Samara prior to ME2's release people complained about their catsuits and how ridiculous they looked, however after a while the fans reached a concensus that "Marketing is just keeping them in 'iconic outfits' so casuals 'won't get confused', and that we'll be able to dress them in armour in the actual game"

This was not the case.

Instead we were forced to have our companions stuck running around in heels, skin-tight latex outfits and nipple-straps with their ****** hanging out.

Now the marketing for ME3 has begun and one of our first screenshots is of a fan favourite (well known for her appreciation of thick armour) being presented with her hair out, her breasts enlarged and her armour replaced with yet another skin-tight catsuit.

I think it's perfectly justifiable for fans to be worried.

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Agreed. I hope Bioware doesn't take the success of ME2 as a reason to oversexualize woman to please the more... Ignorant members of its fanbase.

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Wouldn't it also be horrible if they put her in full helmet armour the whole game, though? Need to find some middle ground here. I have faith in Bioware. Hopefully using that picture for Game Informer was to test reactions.

My opinions:
Hair down during casual = good
Hair down during combat = okay
Casual outfit = good
Casual outfit during combat = bad
Catsuit = always, always, always horrible

If they decide to "Mirandize" (as you call it) her though, I'll take that as affirmation that Shepard's gone insane. Better hope the end game isn't another suicide mission, then. <_<

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yummysoap wrote...

Can we wait until we see a little more
of her before we all go crazy? For all we know this is her Normandy
outfit, with her back in her hair-tied armour-y glory during
combat.


I don't see that outfit as casual ship outfit. I mean why would she have tight leather clothing on inside normandy? Doesn't make sense considering her character. Ashley doesn't seem like a type who'd want everyone to stare her ass and drool. Also we have the fact that  Bioware didn't do different clothes for Normandy in ME2 and in ME it was
just generic military type.
Another complain about Ashley is her long open hair. Which doesn't make considering her sensible military character. 
Maybe Ashley has become a Spectre and bioware is trying make her look more "free" and even somewhat rebellious. I can say thought that only thing they have done is make her look ridiculous and laughable.
So one can only draw the conclusion that Ashley has become a Spectre stripper.

Elite Midget wrote...

Agreed. I hope Bioware doesn't take the success of ME2 as a reason to oversexualize woman to please the more... Ignorant members of its fanbase.


Exactly.

Modifié par Abramis brama, 27 avril 2011 - 12:48 .


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candidate88766 wrote...

I thought kinetic barriers provided far more protection than the actual armour; isn't that why lots of the characters walk around hostile environments in bare skin?


Poor Codex writers.  Nobody seems to want to read the thing:

"The shielding afforded by kinetic barriers does not protect against extremes of temperature, toxins, or radiation."

And yes, they are the main form of protection, but they only protect against high velocity objects (which is why the biotic barriers of ME2 don't make any sense as anything other than a gameplay element, as no one is mentally quick enough to block, or even capable of detecting, things moving at the velocities produced by mass accelerator weaponry.  This is likely the reason why the lore doesn't acknowledge their existence) :

"The outer layer consists of automatically-generated kinetic barriers. Objects traveling above a certain speed will trigger the barrier's reflex system and be deflected, provided there is enough energy left in the shield's power cell."

The reason armor is used is because kinetic barriers aren't perfect. They don't block stuff under the velocity threshhold, and even then stuff still slips through at times. In either case, despite moving much slower than a typical projectile, such an object can still be plenty lethal:

"If a bullet or other incoming object gets past the barrier, it contends with the more traditional body armor. A sealed suit of non-porous ballistic cloth provides kinetic and environmental protection, reinforced by lightweight composite ceramic plates in areas that either don't need to flex or require additional coverage, such as the chest and head. When the armor is hit by directed energy weapons, the plates boil away or ablate rather than burning the wearer."

Ignore gameplay though, because it has its own rules that don't follow the lore.  Shields/Barriers are damaged by everything, no matter how slow moving (melee attacks, varren bites, that drug on Samara's loyalty mission), and must be stripped before health (or armor) can be affected.

Modifié par didymos1120, 27 avril 2011 - 12:25 .


#275
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oh FFS

poeple need to drop the "well they might have the tech to make nanosuit armors that look like domme outfits". If they did the devs would probably have lampshaded it with a codex entry.

Your armor is not just there to deflect bullets. It has sensors, an onboard VI (actually more like afew of them between targeting health monitoring, full universal translation)...servo mechanisms to make the wearer stronger or disperse heat, Medigel distributors and complete sealing for EVA business, an eezo core needed for the biotic barriers and a generator to go with it.

truth is Bioware established a verosimile lore....then they tried to appeal a wider audience and tossed to the vultures and not just in the armor department...they did the same with DA2