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[GodWood]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
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Is it really necessary for you to behave like a condescending git just because you don't happen to care about a character's appearance.

Guess what? Other people do.

Some would rather she wear armour that is appropriate for combat and conforms to the already established lore of the game.
And some would also like for her physical appearance to remain consistent and be appropriate for her already established character instead of having her sexed up 'just because'.

Unless you really need to see big ******, high-heels and catsuits at all times I'm not really seeing why this is an issue for you.

[GuardianAngel470]

GodWood wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...
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Is it really necessary for you to behave like a condescending git just because you don't happen to care about a character's appearance.

Guess what? Other people do.

Some would rather she wear armour that is appropriate for combat and conforms to the already established lore of the game.
And some would also like for her physical appearance to remain consistent and be appropriate for her already established character instead of having her sexed up 'just because'.

Unless you really need to see big ******, high-heels and catsuits at all times I'm not really seeing why this is an issue for you.

You must not have played Portal 2 yet.

[GodWood]

It's on my list of things

[Babli]

Obvakhi wrote...

You settle for medicority while I  settle for Greatness.

That's right, only you. You're not Bioware, get over yourself. So I guess your 'Greatness' is having Ashley destined to be stuck in pink/white armor till the day she dies? What's so great about that? They're not allowed to make any changes at all?
Please... you conclude so much from half a bodyshot, it's pathetic.

Strawman is not cool, man. Who said she must wear the exact same armor? Look at Tela Vasir. She was a spectre and she had awesome armor. So Ashley can have also some new armor. But catsuit is ooc. And I rather be complaining now. When first ME 2 pics came out, there were the same problems. Miranda, Samara, Jack...where they have armor? "Oh its 6 months till the game is out, stop whining, they will have armor"... yeah...

Also, with this "armor" she cant wear helmet. And breather masks sucks. Period.

Not all fans are displeased with her new look. Are we(& Bioware) all mediocre now just because you say so?

You mean, people like big boobies? How surprising that doesnt mean its not stupid juvenile fanservice.

Modifié par Babli, 29 avril 2011 - 08:37 .

[Obvakhi]

Babli wrote...

Strawman is not cool, man. Who said she must wear the exact same armor? Look at Tela Vasir. She was a spectre and she had awesome armor. So Ashley can have also some new armor. But catsuit is ooc. And I rather be complaining now. When first ME 2 pics came out, there were the same problems. Miranda, Samara, Jack...where they have armor? "Oh its 6 months till the game is out, stop whining, they will have armor"... yeah...

Also, with this "armor" she cant wear helmet. And breather masks sucks. Period.

Again, you're jumping to conclusions. This isn't ME2, Ashley could very well have more than one outfit... we don't know yet. If she doesn't, well then too bad. Maybe if you complain hard enough they'll release an Alt. App. pack with your tin can armor that you just can't live without.

You mean, people like big boobies? How surprising that doesnt mean its not stupid juvenile fanservice.

You must not play a lot of video games. Cleavage, high heels, and tight bodysuits is nothing.

[Babli]

Obvakhi wrote...
Again, you're jumping to conclusions. This isn't ME2, Ashley could very well have more than one outfit... we don't know yet. If she doesn't, well then too bad. Maybe if you complain hard enough they'll release an Alt. App. pack with your tin can armor that you just can't live without.

First: I dont buy DLCs. Never.
Second: App. pack means only reskin but she still wouldnt have helmet.

You must not play a lot of video games. Cleavage, high heels, and tight bodysuits is nothing.

I played Mass Effect 1. People had armor in the battle, helmets in space...good times.

And if you dont care, then I dont know why are you posting in this thread.

[didymos1120]

Babli wrote...

Second: App. pack means only reskin but she still wouldnt have helmet.

It would if they made one.  See Miranda acquiring a visor in AAP2. 

[Babli]

didymos1120 wrote...

Babli wrote...

Second: App. pack means only reskin but she still wouldnt have helmet.

It would if they made one.  See Miranda acquiring a visor in AAP2. 

If Bioware was aware of catsuit thing, they were also aware of breather masks thing.
But she still didnt have helmet. Maybe because it would require to "turn off" her hair or something. I would expect the same from app. packs for ME 3 if there wont be helmets for everyone. In what I hope I am wrong.

[GuardianAngel470]

GodWood wrote...

It's on my list of things

I'll tell you what I told my friend: The Hardest puzzle in the game is learning how to laugh quietly.

At least it was for me and my friends.

[didymos1120]

Babli wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Babli wrote...

Second: App. pack means only reskin but she still wouldnt have helmet.

It would if they made one.  See Miranda acquiring a visor in AAP2. 

If Bioware was aware of catsuit thing, they were also aware of breather masks thing.
But she still didnt have helmet.

You made a statement that it just plain wouldn't happen.  But AAP2 shows that if they feel like it, they can add stuff to the head morphs.  I wasn't saying it's likely.  I was just saying you can't know for sure.

Modifié par didymos1120, 29 avril 2011 - 09:48 .

[Babli]

didymos1120 wrote...

Babli wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Babli wrote...

Second: App. pack means only reskin but she still wouldnt have helmet.

It would if they made one.  See Miranda acquiring a visor in AAP2. 

If Bioware was aware of catsuit thing, they were also aware of breather masks thing.
But she still didnt have helmet.

You made a statement that it just plain wouldn't happen.  But AAP2 shows that if they feel like it, they can add stuff to the head morphs.  I wasn't saying it's likely.  I was just saying you can't know for sure.

Well after ME 2 you cant blame me too much. Especially when the first pics from ME 3 shows us biotic Kaidan in badass armor and soldier Ashley in catsuit. We´ll see how it turns out...maybe in game informer podcast or maybe on E3.

[CaptainZaysh]

GodWood wrote...

Unless you really need to see big ******, high-heels and catsuits at all times I'm not really seeing why this is an issue for you.

Ash's ****** aren't that big.

[GodWood]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Unless you really need to see big ******, high-heels and catsuits at all times I'm not really seeing why this is an issue for you.

Ash's ****** aren't that big.

They're much bigger than before

[GuardianAngel470]

GodWood wrote...

CaptainZaysh wrote...

GodWood wrote...
Unless you really need to see big ******, high-heels and catsuits at all times I'm not really seeing why this is an issue for you.

Ash's ****** aren't that big.

They're much bigger than before

You know, I've noticed something. Everybody but Jack's have gotten bigger. Tali's are bigger, Miranda's are bigger than ME1 characters, Samara's are huge, Femshep's got bigger, Liara's got bigger.

I'd say it's more like a general trend or a result of the updated engine.

[mangiraffedog000]

OK, there seems to be some confusion about Man-Giraffe-Dog on the forums, notably that it just looks like a Giraffe-Dog. Well... that's the POINT. Why do you think I'm the only one warning you. It's disguised as a Giraffe-Dog until it's ready to take over the world.
OK this is how Man-Giraffe-Dog came to be:


While growing up it was spotted in the wild (but the team was all killed by it and the photos were recovered afterwards)


After which it began its infiltration of humanity, disguised as Giraffe-Dog:


Which leaves us here. Man-Giraffe-Dog is poised to attack and destroy humanity and I'm trying to warn everyone before it's too late. This is totally serial guys. You need to prepare.

Excelsior!

[008Zulu]

She looks nicer with her hair down. I agree that it is likely casual wear aboard the Normandy, if not, then no real loss. NPCs don't apparently need armour anyway.

[didymos1120]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

I'd say it's more like a general trend or a result of the updated engine.

It's a result of them actually making some different body models. There are very, very few in ME1, and I'm pretty sure only the villains got unique ones.

Modifié par didymos1120, 29 avril 2011 - 10:59 .

[Antivenger]

didymos1120 wrote...

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

I'd say it's more like a general trend or a result of the updated engine.

It's a result of them actually making some different body models. There are very, very few in ME1, and I'm pretty sure only the villains got unique ones.

That explains Benezia. Honestly, I prided myself on not focusing on the physical aspects of women before that. You know, show respect, it's the personality that counts, blah blah blah. It was on my 4th playthrough whence I noticed how messed up her face was. Oh, the shaaaame

[Il Divo]

Elite Midget wrote...

No she doesn't have a unqiue look because she looks like a mixed version or Miranda.

This is your bitterness setting in. Would you call Samara and Matriarch Benezia clones?

A moron, huh? Well, I guess that's expected of one who prefers catsuits over armor. Not even going to read the rest of that paragraph since it would be an insult to my intelligence to humour your naviety.

Yes, a moron. Where did I say catsuits over armor? I said unique over generic. It would help if you knew how to read. One outfit for Ashley over 50. Ashley's one catsuit/armor/whatever outfit beats 50 different armor styles which the devs have to take into account when designing a character's appearance.

See, when you call someone a moron it destroys any merit your pitiful arguement had. Funny how that works, huh?

You lost all claims to civility when you stipulated that I must want Ashley over-sexualized. I do not, ergo you are wrong.

[Iakus]

Il Divo wrote...

Where did I say catsuits over armor? I said unique over generic. It would help if you knew how to read. One outfit for Ashley over 50. Ashley's one catsuit/armor/whatever outfit beats 50 different armor styles which the devs have to take into account when designing a character's appearance.

I'm all for unique looks, and I know you're no fan of Miranda-style fanservice.  But really, wouldn't s single armor style for Ashley make more sense than a single catsuit style?  Assuming Ashley is in fact a Spectre, consider:

Nihlus wore armor
Tela Vasir wore armor
Kaidan Alenko, it seems, wears armor
Shepeard male and female, wears armor

The one photo of Ashley we have is wearing an outfit that bears more than a passing resemblance to a blue version of Miranda's catsuit.  A stronger resemblence than Samara and Benezia's outfits, even.

Maybe that picture is just concept art.  Maybe that's an off-duty outift.  But given how ME 2 (and DA2) handled clothing and armor, I simply can't trust that.  Not unless there's a response form someone who's posting would put a big blue "Bioware" under the title of this thread says "Ashley Williams will be wearing armor into combat.  And helmets for everybody! in toxic astmosheres"

[Elite Midget]

Obvakhi wrote...

You settle for medicority while I  settle for Greatness.

That's right, only you. You're not Bioware, get over yourself. So I guess your 'Greatness' is having Ashley destined to be stuck in pink/white armor till the day she dies? What's so great about that? They're not allowed to make any changes at all?
Please... you conclude so much from half a bodyshot, it's pathetic.
Not all fans are displeased with her new look. Are we(& Bioware) all mediocre now just because you say so?

You poor soul. I wonder what it's like to always expect medicority in life and never expecting those with an established history of greatness to continue said greatness. Really, I feel for you.

You poor soul.

[Dark_Caduceus]

Elite Midget wrote...

Obvakhi wrote...

You settle for medicority while I  settle for Greatness.

That's right, only you. You're not Bioware, get over yourself. So I guess your 'Greatness' is having Ashley destined to be stuck in pink/white armor till the day she dies? What's so great about that? They're not allowed to make any changes at all?
Please... you conclude so much from half a bodyshot, it's pathetic.
Not all fans are displeased with her new look. Are we(& Bioware) all mediocre now just because you say so?

You poor soul. I wonder what it's like to always expect medicority in life and never expecting those with an established history of greatness to continue said greatness. Really, I feel for you.

You poor soul.

Right... because mediocrity is a completely objective concept and Ashley's new look could be empirically proven to be "mediocre".

Modifié par Dark_Caduceus, 29 avril 2011 - 07:09 .

[Il Divo]

iakus wrote...

I'm all for unique looks, and I know you're no fan of Miranda-style fanservice. 

Thank you, Iakus. As always, your posts are appreciated.  

But really, wouldn't s single armor style for Ashley make more sense than a single catsuit style?  Assuming Ashley is in fact a Spectre, consider:

A fair point. And I'm not disagreeing with it entirely. If given the choice, unique armor beats out unique catsuit any day of the week.

But keep in mind, during my Kotor playthrough, I refused to give Carth, Canderous, Bastila, etc, any armor beyond what they started, although in effect it required gimping my party (to a degree). I did this because I felt those were how Bioware intended the characters and thought each look suited them best, far more than inventory armor (which seemed designed with PC in mind).

In this sense, Mass Effect 1's approach (with Liara in full armor), or Morrigan with actual mage robes, etc, these are huge pet peeves of mine.  

Maybe that picture is just concept art.  Maybe that's an off-duty outift.  But given how ME 2 (and DA2) handled clothing and armor, I simply can't trust that.  Not unless there's a response form someone who's posting would put a big blue "Bioware" under the title of this thread says "Ashley Williams will be wearing armor into combat.  And helmets for everybody! in toxic astmosheres"

It depends on the character, imo. Realism doesn't mean as much to me as it does to others, I understand. Certain issues (Thane's outfit) don't bother me, because I still think it suits his character very well, more than full armor would. In other cases (Miranda), I was less impressed, though the recent alternate appearance pack seems to have done a better job of 'suiting her up' while still keeping her...exposed for some.

Let me put it like this: if Ashley can have unique armor, that's great. What I don't want is another inventory system where I'm constantly cycling through armor which Bioware has only given a passing glance for party members. That's all I'm saying.