Dark_Caduceus wrote...
Right... because mediocrity is a completely objective concept and Ashley's new look could be empirically proven to be "mediocre".
Il Divo wrote...
A fair point. And I'm not disagreeing with it entirely. If given the choice, unique armor beats out unique catsuit any day of the week.
But keep in mind, during my Kotor playthrough, I refused to give Carth, Canderous, Bastila, etc, any armor beyond what they started, although in effect it required gimping my party (to a degree). I did this because I felt those were how Bioware intended the characters and thought each look suited them best, far more than inventory armor (which seemed designed with PC in mind).
In this sense, Mass Effect 1's approach (with Liara in full armor), or Morrigan with actual mage robes, etc, these are huge pet peeves of mine.
It depends on the character, imo. Realism doesn't mean as much to me as it does to others, I understand. Certain issues (Thane's outfit) don't bother me, because I still think it suits his character very well, more than full armor would. In other cases (Miranda), I was less impressed, though the recent alternate appearance pack seems to have done a better job of 'suiting her up' while still keeping her...exposed for some.
Let me put it like this: if Ashley can have unique armor, that's great. What I don't want is another inventory system where I'm constantly cycling through armor which Bioware has only given a passing glance for party members. That's all I'm saying.
Elite Midget wrote...
Dark_Caduceus wrote...
Right... because mediocrity is a completely objective concept and Ashley's new look could be empirically proven to be "mediocre".
Why yes it is. When you're okay with them completely changing a character that has an established character background from the past 2 games for sex appeal means you're okay with mediocrity and are fine with Bioware shafting fans for quick thrills.
because someone defied him about the cat suit and that is why Cerberus is trying to kill you in ME3
Almostfaceman wrote...
Elite Midget wrote...
Dark_Caduceus wrote...
Right... because mediocrity is a completely objective concept and Ashley's new look could be empirically proven to be "mediocre".
Why yes it is. When you're okay with them completely changing a character that has an established character background from the past 2 games for sex appeal means you're okay with mediocrity and are fine with Bioware shafting fans for quick thrills.
De gustibus non est disputandum
This is what's wrong with the world today.Skilled Seeker wrote...
A catsuit and boob job is just what Ashley needed for me to give a damn about her character. Now if only she'll drop the religious BS and poetry, I might let her live on one of my playthroughs.
So genuine thanks Bioware
Skilled Seeker wrote...
A catsuit and boob job is just what Ashley needed for me to give a damn about her character. Now if only she'll drop the religious BS and poetry, I might let her live on one of my playthroughs.
So genuine thanks Bioware
Skilled Seeker wrote...
A catsuit and boob job is just what Ashley needed for me to give a damn about her character. Now if only she'll drop the religious BS and poetry, I might let her live on one of my playthroughs.
So genuine thanks Bioware
AdmiralCheez wrote...
This is what's wrong with the world today.Skilled Seeker wrote...
A catsuit and boob job is just what Ashley needed for me to give a damn about her character. Now if only she'll drop the religious BS and poetry, I might let her live on one of my playthroughs.
So genuine thanks Bioware
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I hated her startup armor.Abispa wrote...
"If you want me in a tin foil miniskirt and thigh-high boots, I'm gonna need dinner first!"
I like how ME handled Ashley. Armor in combat, uniform on the ship, and completely bare during her personal debriefing. ME2 kept the "M" label, but not the mature content.
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Modifié par thurmanator692, 30 avril 2011 - 12:01 .
hated her startup armor.
"The first female squaddie? I have an idea....PINK!"
Modifié par Aedan_Cousland, 30 avril 2011 - 12:03 .
Aedan_Cousland wrote...
Ashley looks hot.
But yeah, she should also have a heavy armor outfit.hated her startup armor.
"The first female squaddie? I have an idea....PINK!"
I agree.
If she was a mercenary or pirate, maybe the personalized armor would make sense. But she was an Alliance Marine, and it was hard to understand why she was in different color armor than the rest of her squad, let alone the highly untactical pink & white armor.
She should have been wearing Alliance Black or a Camo pattern, IMO.
Pink is pretty, some times even a tough soldier needs to feel pretty. Otherwise you end up with some G.I Jane type of character.
Modifié par V-rex, 30 avril 2011 - 02:09 .
AdmiralCheez wrote...
Okay, so my issue of GI finally arrived.
The suit actually looks like it's supposed to integrate into armor, so I'll relax a little.
However, the boobies are definitely bigger.
Aedan_Cousland wrote...
Pink is pretty, some times even a tough soldier needs to feel pretty. Otherwise you end up with some G.I Jane type of character.
I could understand what you are saying if you first run into Ashley while she is off-duty, at some lounge on the Citadel. There it might make sense if the character was wearing a pretty dress, or something similar. But you first encounter her while she is on duty and in a combat enviroment. That is hardly the place to try and 'look pretty,' and it makes little sense for a professional soldier. All militaries value uniformity, and their combat uniforms are chosen for utilitarian reasons, not for asthetics.
GuardianAngel470 wrote...
GodWood wrote...
CaptainZaysh wrote...
Ash's ****** aren't that big.GodWood wrote...
Unless you really need to see big ******, high-heels and catsuits at all times I'm not really seeing why this is an issue for you.
They're much bigger than before
You know, I've noticed something. Everybody but Jack's have gotten bigger. Tali's are bigger, Miranda's are bigger than ME1 characters, Samara's are huge, Femshep's got bigger, Liara's got bigger.
I'd say it's more like a general trend or a result of the updated engine.
I agree with this to some extent and if this is just her casual under suit under her armor I’m ok with it, I’ve gotten past the WTF reaction I had at first. I still really think thats what this is not what she will be wearing on mission. Don’t like it but that’s largely because well...I don’t like it, thought she was pretty in ME, don’t like how similar this is to Miranda and yeah I odn't like the boob job not because I think its OCC or exploitive to woman. It may look better in game or in a better shot rather than a crappy scan too. Just because she is a marine doesn’t mean she is not going to put on makeup and let her hair down when she doesn’t have to be in uniform.Il Divo wrote...
iakus wrote...
I'm all for unique looks, and I know you're no fan of Miranda-style fanservice.
Thank you, Iakus. As always, your posts are appreciated.But really, wouldn't s single armor style for Ashley make more sense than a single catsuit style? Assuming Ashley is in fact a Spectre, consider:
A fair point. And I'm not disagreeing with it entirely. If given the choice, unique armor beats out unique catsuit any day of the week.
But keep in mind, during my Kotor playthrough, I refused to give Carth, Canderous, Bastila, etc, any armor beyond what they started, although in effect it required gimping my party (to a degree). I did this because I felt those were how Bioware intended the characters and thought each look suited them best, far more than inventory armor (which seemed designed with PC in mind).
In this sense, Mass Effect 1's approach (with Liara in full armor), or Morrigan with actual mage robes, etc, these are huge pet peeves of mine.Maybe that picture is just concept art. Maybe that's an off-duty outift. But given how ME 2 (and DA2) handled clothing and armor, I simply can't trust that. Not unless there's a response form someone who's posting would put a big blue "Bioware" under the title of this thread says "Ashley Williams will be wearing armor into combat. And helmets for everybody! in toxic astmosheres"
It depends on the character, imo. Realism doesn't mean as much to me as it does to others, I understand. Certain issues (Thane's outfit) don't bother me, because I still think it suits his character very well, more than full armor would. In other cases (Miranda), I was less impressed, though the recent alternate appearance pack seems to have done a better job of 'suiting her up' while still keeping her...exposed for some.
Let me put it like this: if Ashley can have unique armor, that's great. What I don't want is another inventory system where I'm constantly cycling through armor which Bioware has only given a passing glance for party members. That's all I'm saying.
Modifié par Manic Sheep, 30 avril 2011 - 06:27 .
Manic Sheep wrote...
Garrus was perfect.
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