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#151
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My reaction:
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#152
SwordsmanofShadow

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Dr Bawbag wrote...

That's one of the worst analogies I've ever read. Did make me laugh though!


True, it is dramatic. But not without merit.

I have a car that's one hiccup away from fu**ed-up, and instaed of fixing it, you offer me leather seats that I have to pay for?

No I am not happy.

#153
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Apirka wrote...

My reaction:
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I'm crying :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

#154
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be happy something came out considering the sheer lack of variety in loot in the game, its a start to bigger things

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I don't really see a problem with this. I want Bioware to make money to be able to make better games in the future. I certainly won't be buying them though.

Modifié par Alex Kershaw, 26 avril 2011 - 07:13 .


#156
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I wonder how many other Item Packs are there going to be since this is Item Pack #1!

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SwordsmanofShadow wrote...

It's like having a car with an engine that sometimes catches on fire, brakes that have a tendency to not work, and steering that is almost completely uncontrollable.

When I confront the car company with these problems, they elect to sell me leather seats at a [/i][i]bargain price. Great! Now I can sit in leathery comfort as I crash and kill myself! Yay!

What's hilarious is that your analogy is actually quite applicable, but you've interpreted it entirely incorrectly.

The engineers who would be working on the engine would not be the same engineers who are working on the breaks, who themselves would not be the same engineers who would be working on the steering. Finally, absolutely none of these engineers would be working on the interior upholstery and, really, what else do the upholstery guys have to do but try to sell you newer, flashier seat covers? They're job was basically done after the car's design was finished a long time ago.

#158
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BWAHAHAHA BIOWARE!

I half expected you to release some decent DLC now that it appeared your tail was between your legs over the fan reaction, at leastwhen it came to new content announcements.

Seems I was wrong.

#159
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So basically, Bioware just gave people the ability to DLC their way through the entire game?

Well if you guys want to reward Bioware for these types of practices, then go ahead and buy it. I'm going to speak with my wallet and say no.

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I won't buy this kind of DLC for sure. Nice way to "improve" a controversial game, with more controversial addons.

#161
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/points at Cutlass Jack

You know you are so buying this now! You just failed your save verses shinies with a natural 01 >:)

/waits for the screens.

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Alex Kershaw wrote...

I don't really see a problem with this. I want Bioware to make money to be able to make better games in the future. I certainly won't be buying them though.


Partly because we were told that limiting character customisation, was due to art design and stylistic reasons. Whilst many other people have already said for a while that item packs are a cheap attempt to squeeze more income from the consumer by following the release with petty DLC, its just nice to know that those individuals who said it would happen weren't being overly dramatic or cynical in their belief.

Regarding making profits to make better games in the future, I'm sure they earnt a profit on DAO, ME1, ME2 so what happened to that income when they made DA2? DLC, to a large extent, is an attempt to pad the bottom line for EA, as both companies are now indistingushable, it does not lead automatically lead to a better game.

It smacks of an attempt to recoup failing profit margins based on DA2's sales trend and no tool set in the cheapest way possible. I don't begrudge EA attempting to do this, as it is a profit organisation, what irritates me is attempting to palm it off as a stylistic move, when most people suspected this would happen a matter of weeks after the game was released.  

Modifié par billy the squid, 26 avril 2011 - 08:42 .


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Maverick827 wrote...

SwordsmanofShadow wrote...

It's like having a car with an engine that sometimes catches on fire, brakes that have a tendency to not work, and steering that is almost completely uncontrollable.

When I confront the car company with these problems, they elect to sell me leather seats at a [/i]bargain price. Great! Now I can sit in leathery comfort as I crash and kill myself! Yay!

What's hilarious is that your analogy is actually quite applicable, but you've interpreted it entirely incorrectly.

The engineers who would be working on the engine would not be the same engineers who are working on the breaks, who themselves would not be the same engineers who would be working on the steering. Finally, absolutely none of these engineers would be working on the interior upholstery and, really, what else do the upholstery guys have to do but try to sell you newer, flashier seat covers? They're job was basically done after the car's design was finished a long time ago.


I think you missed the point. This couldn't have waited till they fixed at least [i]some
of the MAJOR
bugs? Wouldn't people be more willing to spend money if you earned their
goodwill?

I don't fault the upholstry paople for doing their job. But when the compnay pushes that (remember that various programmers/Q&A have to test this stuff to make sure it works, less time for game breaking bugs) instead of fixing critical problems, is it any wonder I cry fault?

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Stupid pointless DLC. Just how much dev time did it take bioware to make this? An hour or two from a single developer?

Modders could have made these "extra" armors easily. No wonder Bioware is refusing to release the DA2 toolset.

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SwordsmanofShadow wrote...

I think you missed the point. This couldn't have waited till they fixed at least some of the MAJOR
bugs? Wouldn't people be more willing to spend money if you earned their
goodwill?

I don't fault the upholstry paople for doing their job. But when the compnay pushes that (remember that various programmers/Q&A have to test this stuff to make sure it works, less time for game breaking bugs) instead of fixing critical problems, is it any wonder I cry fault?

So you would rather have their entire staff bottlenecked by the bug department?  No one else can work and produce until all bugs are fixed?

Edit: And no "programmers" have to do any work here; the QA process would also be very quick.

Modifié par Maverick827, 26 avril 2011 - 08:57 .


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Funny . I just got a Patch for the Xbox version last night. Hmm let us see if that fixes some of the bugs. And why are most of you shocked They did almost the exact same thing to ME2. I am not shocked at all and its only 5 bux for all em. As long as I get something comparable to Awakening then I don't really care. Perhaps it is for the console users to give them a little more variety since we cant make mods for a console. And no I'm about to ****** money away on a Gaming Computer when i can think of more important things to spend my money on. If that touched a nerve then sorry.

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Nightnight wrote...

Stupid pointless DLC. Just how much dev time did it take bioware to make this? An hour or two from a single developer?

Modders could have made these "extra" armors easily. No wonder Bioware is refusing to release the DA2 toolset.


It probably took no time at all. They just decided to split content that was supposed to be in full game (aka Exiled Prince) to earn extra $ thus pulling the same marketing strat they did w/ ME2

Something according to this image:

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Modifié par Romantiq, 26 avril 2011 - 09:07 .


#168
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In order to fully express my opinion regarding this DLC, I would need to violate several decency laws, the Geneva Convention, and the Bioware forum's Terms of Service.

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I just had a look at some of the "improvements".

This is hilarious. Goodness, that made me laugh every time I looked at it. Oh wow.

Ahem... may I please place an order to whatever these designers where smoking and/or drinking? I'll be at take-out window # 3.

It's only $ 3 you say? Yes, it's only $ 3 for this one. The first one. Have fun getting nickled and dimed to death.

Here's a link:

dragonage.bioware.com/da2/addon/

Modifié par Sabriana, 26 avril 2011 - 09:14 .


#170
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Uggghhh, and isn't it nice that the "more details" link just shows you a picture of it?

as if they are proud of how stupid they look

It's like proudly showing off a gravy stain on your shirt.

Modifié par Fruit of the Doom, 26 avril 2011 - 09:19 .


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Vhardamis wrote...

/points at Cutlass Jack

You know you are so buying this now! You just failed your save verses shinies with a natural 01 >:)

/waits for the screens.


Never. I would never fail my saving throw! Oooh...shiny...

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edit: Non-robe mage outfit added. Very nice looking in game.

Modifié par Cutlass Jack, 26 avril 2011 - 09:35 .


#172
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400 bioware points is five dollars, I don't know why people keep saying it's "only three dollars" unless they only care about one class. Far be it for it to just cost 1/3 as much, but whatever.

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Filament wrote...

400 bioware points is five dollars, I don't know why people keep saying it's "only three dollars" unless they only care about one class. Far be it for it to just cost 1/3 as much, but whatever.


Sorry. I don't buy DLC. Ever. From no game developer. So I've no idea how the points work, I just did some quick approximations. I was too consumed with hilarity to search and see how this point stuff works in detail.

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Considering I'd have to actually play DA2 again to make use of the item pack, I think Bioware...YOU should be paying ME.

After all the constructive criticism (see constructive criticism thread) and the not so constructive criticism elsewhere on these forums and other places on the net (and there has been lots of that and you know it), the last I expected to see was an attempt to further nickle and dime your customers. I expected to see at the very least a meaty story driven DLC to make up for the lack of it in DA2, not THIS. Bioware, are you truly this out of touch with your fans?

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Sabriana wrote...

Filament wrote...

400 bioware points is five dollars, I don't know why people keep saying it's "only three dollars" unless they only care about one class. Far be it for it to just cost 1/3 as much, but whatever.


Sorry. I don't buy DLC. Ever. From no game developer. So I've no idea how the points work, I just did some quick approximations. I was too consumed with hilarity to search and see how this point stuff works in detail.


I think this is the point where it stops being hilarious and is just pitiful...

Modifié par Fruit of the Doom, 26 avril 2011 - 09:24 .