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[killersinc]

This is freaking sad. I know EA is driving the DLC to the freaking ground but have some dignity. I think it is time for a GAME company comes and and refuses the mold. Bioware did that at one time. Now they just sell out. This is just like ME2. Items that should have been in the main product but you wanted to rush the game through. I will be buying ME3 along with TOR will be the last bioware product I will get till this crap ends. DLC should add to the story not rob the story to make DLC.

[Wound Hawke]

[Ainmarh]

Killjoy Cutter wrote...

Ainmarh wrote...

Anyone have any sales numbers for the DLC so far? Would certainly be interesting to see how all the whining corresponds to actual "not buying", as I'm quite positive that it doesn't..

Funny how anyone who has any issues with the game is "whining", while anyone defending the game is a "fanboy". 

Oh no, do not interpret me inaccurately; we all know there are issues with the game, but that was not at all the point. When I said whining I meant only--and exactly--that, whining.

[haand76]

I will not buy this.

[alexmasterson123]

killersinc wrote...

have some dignity.

When it comes to extra content, there are very, very few developers left with any dignity, as it were. Even Valve, the Jesus of gaming, launched Portal 2 with a shop full of useless, overpriced vanity items and has the Mann Co. stuff in TF2.

[LilyasAvalon]

killersinc wrote...

This is freaking sad. I know EA is driving the DLC to the freaking ground but have some dignity. I think it is time for a GAME company comes and and refuses the mold. Bioware did that at one time. Now they just sell out. This is just like ME2. Items that should have been in the main product but you wanted to rush the game through. I will be buying ME3 along with TOR will be the last bioware product I will get till this crap ends. DLC should add to the story not rob the story to make DLC.

This. I may be the only one who feels this, but certain DLC in Origins was actually pretty damn good and actually felt like there was purporse behind it instead of making a few extra buck. Witch Hunt was a GREAT way to end the Origins line, and Return to Ostagar added more depth and closure to what happened at Ostagar, but it didn't feel like an obvious, desperate ploy for money.

I don't mind DLC, Bioware. But make it worth my time at least. I'm not going to fish out $5 for content as simple as armors and swords.

[ergie]

<sarcasm> Nice work bioware </sarcasm>

[PaganOak]

disgusting..aahhah disgusting .

[Sad Dragon]

Why this is bad.

• Resources are used to make this DLC that could have been used elsewhere. Someone will have to write the codex entries (you know there will be one), someone needs to modle the items (excluding the accessories that is) and someone will have to texture the items.

Why this is not bad.

• It requiers next to no bug testing -- which means they can focus on fixing bugs.
• It requiers next to no coding -- which means the programmers can focus on fixing bugs.

You could also say that BioWare could have done something to appease the angry fans -- like giving this out for free or what not -- but wanting a story DLC at this point it a bit unrealistic, unless its content already in the game/made before the release.

A story DLC would require:

• Programmers working on senario specific code -- this is 50/50 as I would think they have a toolset that is good enough so that they can have a designer make, at least most of the scripting.
• Writers working on plot and dialogue.
• Voice Actors to come in and do their roles
• Level designers to make the DLC areas (unless they just reuse what they have -- come on, you guys set yourselves up for that one )
• Testing of the DLC to make sure nothing is broken or it breaks any part in the game.

Of these point the last one is the most important -- for most people anyway -- as this will take time away from testing bug fixes and what not. Of course, if they have the resourced to do both then this DLC is even worse in my eyes but on this point I do give them at least the benifit of the doubt.

Bug fixes soon™, Bigger DLC later -- hopefully.

- TSD

[brigantine]

I love how people just use the term "fanbase" to fit their cause! I'm part of the fanbase and I really enjoyed DAII and will be downloading this DLC. DAII has some real issues that cause it not to be a perfect game but it is still a lot of fun and I'm happy to pay $5 for some added cosmetic content.

[Luke Barrett]

alexmasterson123 wrote...

killersinc wrote...

have some dignity.

When it comes to extra content, there are very, very few developers left with any dignity, as it were. Even Valve, the Jesus of gaming, launched Portal 2 with a shop full of useless, overpriced vanity items and has the Mann Co. stuff in TF2.

Just like to chime in on this topic in an unofficial way (if that's even possible with this looming tag under my name?). I view MTXs in general to be vanity purchases. In most cases these purchases are just to increase the fun and enjoyment for those users that it is applicable for. Personally, I play a lot of Heroes of Newerth in my spare time and I frequently buy from their online store - all of those purchases are vanity only but it makes it a little more fun for me to look different sometimes plus it allows me to support a company that I really believe deserves it (S2 Games). Now, I'm not saying one way or the other what your reasons for or against these MTX DLCs are or your support of BioWare in general, simply that it provides something that some people do want. If it's not your type of thing then that's okay.

Now when it comes to full adventure DLC, you can rest assured that we have taken a lot of feedback gathered from DA2 launch and created content in light of those opinions. I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

[Voixcalme]

Okay, I installed them and went to my Hawke's "Special Deliveries" chest to collect the items, but nothing was there. Am I doing it wrong?

[Rylor Tormtor]

Sad. Bioware's DLC is much the same as the community creations that have thus far been made (WITHOUT A TOOLSET) and they charge for it.

Bravo.

[mesmerizedish]

Luke Barrett wrote...

Now when it comes to full adventure DLC, you can rest assured that we have taken a lot of feedback gathered from DA2 launch and created content in light of those opinions. I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

I was pleasantly surprised by these item packs. I'll be honest, I've defended BioWare's design and business choices from the getgo, but I didn't actually expect as many brand-new art assets as I got in the item pack. They're wonderfully designed, and if they set any sort of precedent for the quality of your "stuff packs," then I'll be thrilled to buy Item Packs #s 2, 3, and 4 as well.

As for story DLC, well... I wait with bated breath I'm looking forward to it, of course, but these item packs are a better "instant-gratification drug-like rush" for me. I confess, I love art assets. *prays for new environment art in story DLC*

[Dubya75]

Sad Dragon wrote...

Why this is bad.

• Resources are used to make this DLC that could have been used elsewhere. Someone will have to write the codex entries (you know there will be one), someone needs to modle the items (excluding the accessories that is) and someone will have to texture the items.

Why this is not bad.

• It requiers next to no bug testing -- which means they can focus on fixing bugs.
• It requiers next to no coding -- which means the programmers can focus on fixing bugs.

You could also say that BioWare could have done something to appease the angry fans -- like giving this out for free or what not -- but wanting a story DLC at this point it a bit unrealistic, unless its content already in the game/made before the release.

A story DLC would require:

• Programmers working on senario specific code -- this is 50/50 as I would think they have a toolset that is good enough so that they can have a designer make, at least most of the scripting.
• Writers working on plot and dialogue.
• Voice Actors to come in and do their roles
• Level designers to make the DLC areas (unless they just reuse what they have -- come on, you guys set yourselves up for that one )
• Testing of the DLC to make sure nothing is broken or it breaks any part in the game.

Of these point the last one is the most important -- for most people anyway -- as this will take time away from testing bug fixes and what not. Of course, if they have the resourced to do both then this DLC is even worse in my eyes but on this point I do give them at least the benifit of the doubt.

Bug fixes soon™, Bigger DLC later -- hopefully.

- TSD

Not sure I get your point.
I think the thing most of us are upset about is that BioWare gave us very little information of what these item packs include or exacyl what each set of armor look like.
The only way to determine this is to buy the stuff and be very disappointed with the poor quality.

[Dubya75]

Luke Barrett wrote...

alexmasterson123 wrote...

killersinc wrote...

have some dignity.

When it comes to extra content, there are very, very few developers left with any dignity, as it were. Even Valve, the Jesus of gaming, launched Portal 2 with a shop full of useless, overpriced vanity items and has the Mann Co. stuff in TF2.

Just like to chime in on this topic in an unofficial way (if that's even possible with this looming tag under my name?). I view MTXs in general to be vanity purchases. In most cases these purchases are just to increase the fun and enjoyment for those users that it is applicable for. Personally, I play a lot of Heroes of Newerth in my spare time and I frequently buy from their online store - all of those purchases are vanity only but it makes it a little more fun for me to look different sometimes plus it allows me to support a company that I really believe deserves it (S2 Games). Now, I'm not saying one way or the other what your reasons for or against these MTX DLCs are or your support of BioWare in general, simply that it provides something that some people do want. If it's not your type of thing then that's okay.

Now when it comes to full adventure DLC, you can rest assured that we have taken a lot of feedback gathered from DA2 launch and created content in light of those opinions. I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

I think most of us will only be pleasantly surprised with brand new environments in these new adventures. If it's more recycled environments...well, then something will hit the fan!

Modifié par Dubya75, 28 avril 2011 - 03:41 .

[Midnight Voyager]

There's sortof a sweet spot for equipment. I've found that I almost ignore it in DA2. Slap on the best set available, grab a better sword when available, ignore all else. I might remember accessories sometimes. Can't be bothered to pay attention to any of it. DAO had enough equipment that I paid attention, especially with more than one companion. ME2 didn't require any equipment managing at all. DA2 just makes it really bothersome. Like, I know I should probably upgrade it, but I forget to even pay attention to it before selling everything. And when it's armor, forget it, I almost always sell all of it and only bother with the best set. Because it's only useful for one character.

TLDR; I find myself not caring about equipment AT ALL in DA2, not buying, sorry.

[brigantine]

Luke Barrett wrote...


Just like to chime in on this topic in an unofficial way (if that's even possible with this looming tag under my name?). I view MTXs in general to be vanity purchases. In most cases these purchases are just to increase the fun and enjoyment for those users that it is applicable for. Personally, I play a lot of Heroes of Newerth in my spare time and I frequently buy from their online store - all of those purchases are vanity only but it makes it a little more fun for me to look different sometimes plus it allows me to support a company that I really believe deserves it (S2 Games). Now, I'm not saying one way or the other what your reasons for or against these MTX DLCs are or your support of BioWare in general, simply that it provides something that some people do want. If it's not your type of thing then that's okay.

Now when it comes to full adventure DLC, you can rest assured that we have taken a lot of feedback gathered from DA2 launch and created content in light of those opinions. I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

Thank you for your insight on this. I buy some vanity/cosmetic stuff when I like it also. I will purchase this armor/weapon pack because I like different armor and weapons. I never purchase the gifts DLC because that really does not appeal to me. Its cool to have all kinds of DLC and be able to pick and choose the ones we want.

That being said I'm ready for some story DLC. I'm on my 3rd last (no more classes) playthrough so I will be happy when I can have new adventures!

[Dormiglione]

Luke Barrett wrote...

Now when it comes to full adventure DLC, you can rest assured that we have taken a lot of feedback gathered from DA2 launch and created content in light of those opinions. I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

This are really good news. Thank you for sharing that information

[Sad Dragon]

Dubya75 wrote...

Not sure I get your point.
I think the thing most of us are upset about is that BioWare gave us very little information of what these item packs include or exacyl what each set of armor look like.
The only way to determine this is to buy the stuff and be very disappointed with the poor quality.

I was more talking to those who are complaining about the pack in and of itself as they wanted a bigger DLC with dialogue.

Now I too would like such a DLC, very very very much infact but I'd rather have the original game patched so those who sufferes from game breaking buggs (I had none) gets to play the game before looking for bigger DLC.

As for little information about this pack. I agree. Would have liked to have seen some more pictures as well -- though that in and of itself didn't bother me to much as I dont really buy Item packs, but point still stands: some pictures would have been nice.

-TSD

[Jade Elf]

Voixcalme wrote...

Okay, I installed them and went to my Hawke's "Special Deliveries" chest to collect the items, but nothing was there. Am I doing it wrong?

Each item set has its own separate chest. You should have a "quest" for each set in your journal. If you loaded a savegame in the same room as the chest, try leaving the room/area and coming back again.

[tomimaci13]

I bought everything for DA:O and ME&ME2. Not because all was worth it, but because I felt the need to support Bioware. Now is the first time I paused for a second: do I really want to support DA2? It's not a bad game, mind you, but it's a step back from DA:O in quality. Shorter, simpler, buggier and just less fulfilling. The direction Bio wanted to take the franchise was not bad, but they went too far. Way too far.

I beg you Bioware, don't ruin this franchise. This is not ME. DA should never become action-RPG, because in the long run, it's not profitable. There are better action-RPGs out there, and frankly your storytelling is not fitting for that. Sorry to be blunt, but your strength is not at the gameplay but at the world and the story.

[Killjoy Cutter]

Luke Barrett wrote...

alexmasterson123 wrote...

killersinc wrote...

have some dignity.

When it comes to extra content, there are very, very few developers left with any dignity, as it were. Even Valve, the Jesus of gaming, launched Portal 2 with a shop full of useless, overpriced vanity items and has the Mann Co. stuff in TF2.

Just like to chime in on this topic in an unofficial way (if that's even possible with this looming tag under my name?). I view MTXs in general to be vanity purchases. In most cases these purchases are just to increase the fun and enjoyment for those users that it is applicable for. Personally, I play a lot of Heroes of Newerth in my spare time and I frequently buy from their online store - all of those purchases are vanity only but it makes it a little more fun for me to look different sometimes plus it allows me to support a company that I really believe deserves it (S2 Games). Now, I'm not saying one way or the other what your reasons for or against these MTX DLCs are or your support of BioWare in general, simply that it provides something that some people do want. If it's not your type of thing then that's okay.

Now when it comes to full adventure DLC, you can rest assured that we have taken a lot of feedback gathered from DA2 launch and created content in light of those opinions. I think everyone will be pleasantly surprised.

Thank you for posting, Luke.  It's good to read that last bit, and I hope you're right.  I haven't given up on the DA franchise -- the harshness of some of my posts has been driven by disappoinment in DA2 compared to what DA:O was and what DA2 could have been... not hate. 

[Chriagon]

 Oh no, not an item pack. 

I really liked DA2, despite its flaws. Please, give us a decent expansion pack...

[LaarDha]

I'm quite happy with the item packs. The mage armors are especially nice, since my mage characters determinedly refuse to wear robes (no matter how inadequate their current armor). I refuse to run around looking like either a circle mage or a magister - ewww. It's also nice that Hawke gets to inherit her/his father's stuff.