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Wittand25

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Omega-202 wrote...
Its not even like the issue of Dumbledore being gay.  There were plenty of people who had suspected it based on what was in the books before Rowling came out and said that she'd written him as such without every saying it explicitly.  Male Shepard has no such evidence.  

Have you ever talked to Jacob ?
I am referring to the convo during which they both admire each other´s body and Jacob goes "Cerberus has no rules against fraternisation". After that exchange i was very surprised that Jacob was not a option for MShep.

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centauri2002 wrote...

Abramis brama wrote...

Shepards not gay though. You are playing it in denial. But it's okay, some people just love living in dream world when the world is so harsh place. Nothing wrong with that.


Correction: Your Shepard's not gay. That's like saying my Shepard's not female just because you played MaleShep (yes, I know you said you played female. It's just an example). 

That's ironic considering you've admitted before you live in your own little Mass Effect world where the rules don't apply to you. So if you consider the dream world everything bar yours, then yes, I do.


Correction: Shepard can be male or female but not gay.



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Posting Gundman doesn't make something any less true.

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Abramis brama wrote...
Shepards not gay though. You are playing it in denial. But it's okay, some people just love living in dream world when the world is so harsh place. Nothing wrong with that.


What.

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Nyoka wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

I'll just leave this and this here for good measure.

Also, there was that confirmation by a BioWare dev that ME1 was intended to feature LGBT relationships, but were never finalised due to time constraints.
Allow me to dig it up.

There is still a window of opportunity. Nothing is set in stone.

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Isn't love beautiful? :wub:


I laughed at this pic, and not because it's supposedly 2 dudes getting ready to kiss (come on, I'm immature, but I'm not that immature). 

I laughed because it looks like Kaiden is in a massive amount of pain and ShepLoo is..... well, I don't know what you'd call what he's doing with his face there. 

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Abramis brama wrote...

Correction: Shepard can be male or female but not gay.


I'm not sure why I bother debating this with you. >.>

I'm not trying to convince you that your Shepard is anything you say he/she is. So stop trying to do the same for other people. 

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Abramis brama wrote...

centauri2002 wrote...

Abramis brama wrote...

Shepards not gay though. You are playing it in denial. But it's okay, some people just love living in dream world when the world is so harsh place. Nothing wrong with that.


Correction: Your Shepard's not gay. That's like saying my Shepard's not female just because you played MaleShep (yes, I know you said you played female. It's just an example). 

That's ironic considering you've admitted before you live in your own little Mass Effect world where the rules don't apply to you. So if you consider the dream world everything bar yours, then yes, I do.


Correction: Shepard can be male or female but not gay.

Actually. One of my FemSheps is a lesbian. She has had a relationship with Liara (and continued it in LOTSB) and became a little too attached to Kelly Chambers. 

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Wittand25 wrote...

Have you ever talked to Jacob ?
I am referring to the convo during which they both admire each other´s body and Jacob goes "Cerberus has no rules against fraternisation". After that exchange i was very surprised that Jacob was not a option for MShep.


You're completely reading things into that which weren't implied.  

Fraternization:  To associate with others in a brotherly or congenial way

That's the PRIMARY definition of the term.  In military jargon, its usually used in regards to commanding officers becoming friendly with their subordinates in an informal way thereby disrupting the chain of command, NOT to describe sexual or romantic relations.  

Where you got the "admiring each other's bodies" thing is beyond me.  He does lower his eyes and lean back on the table, but that by no means indicates anything beyond familiarity.  He's in no way "checking out" Shepard.  

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How about we just let people dictate what orientation their Shepard is, since it's entirely open ended and there is no canon Shepard, just a default one?

Seriously, guys. Let's stop putting limitations on each other, it's really stupid.

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Nyoka wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

I'll just leave this and this here for good measure.

Also, there was that confirmation by a BioWare dev that ME1 was intended to feature LGBT relationships, but were never finalised due to time constraints.
Allow me to dig it up.

There is still a window of opportunity. Nothing is set in stone.

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Isn't love beautiful.

It was only a matter of time before some moron posts something queer.

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Abramis brama wrote...

Liking one Alien doesn't make shepard any less heterosexual either.

Then I guess Manshep liking Kaidan doesn't make him gay, since Kaidan is just one particular man he just happens to like, nothing more. Here, have a pic of heterosexual Shepard. It's not like he's gay just because he loves another man!

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Also everything in my world is well rooted in logic and reason.  I don't know about yours though.

Yeah, if you start off with the premise that 2+2=5, then you can use logic and reason to prove that you are the Pope. Schizophrenic people are quite consistent in their insanity.

Modifié par Nyoka, 26 avril 2011 - 10:35 .


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Seriously, that dude has been countered with facts and decides his opinions over write them. Don't bother trying, he proved he's a troll in the FftL thread.

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Abramis brama wrote...


Like it's been said so many times: Asari are attractive to everyone.


Also everything in my world is well rooted in logic and reason.  I don't know about yours though.:P


I'm sure any straight female would disagree with finding the Asari sexually attractive.

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Eiliestl wrote...

It was only a matter of time before some moron posts something queer.


It was only a matter of time before some moron decided to post something totally ignorant.

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@Fat Headed Wolf hehe yeah the video is better but I can't embed it properly in this forum :-(

@Eiliestl I posted a pic of a gay soldier, did you see it?

Modifié par Nyoka, 26 avril 2011 - 10:31 .


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Abramis brama wrote...
Posting Gundman doesn't make something any less true.


Since posting the many images of Femshep with a woman in the game will probably just be batted aside by your troll logic,take this instead.

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Sorrel wrote...

How about we just let people dictate what orientation their Shepard is, since it's entirely open ended and there is no canon Shepard, just a default one?

Seriously, guys. Let's stop putting limitations on each other, it's really stupid.


Nah, that wont work. Some people just want to dictate to the rest of us what they want is right, and what we want is wrong. That things arnt allowed to change and if they do, they'll boycott the series because it alienated the male heterosexual gamer.

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corporal doody wrote...

 
-When i think asari, i dont think man or woman...i think masculine and feminine.


Really? I thought a woman was defined as one having the carrier reproductive organs? I mean technically asari don't have genders. Yet they are not asexual. By definition in order for an asari to be asexual is would not need another organism. Asari need a separate genetic code to use as the "father" to reproduce. This make them a sexually reproducing species.

It is widely debatable due to the fact that there are no male asari. Yet asari were clearly made to resemble woman. They have an hourglass figure, and unless told otherwise I assume their give birth through their vaginas.

I believe a comparison is needed for this. In the real world there exists a species of lizard that reproduces without a male counterpart. There are no men in their species. Only female. The male gene shrunk, as the human one is now, and there were simply no men left to reproduce. The females underwent a mutation thought allows them to clone a daughter. They have "fake" sex with another lizard, and their bodies allow them to fertilize  their egg.

Scientists still consider them females even though their is no male counterpart.

Asari seem to share qualities with mammals. They care for their young, have mammary glands, and I assume they give live birth. Doesn't them make them a "female." If Bioware came out and said asari used to have males, but they died out. It would not be a hard retcon since it is scientifically possible.

"Recently the asari made a monumental discovery while excavating their planet. A male asari corpse was found! Apparently asari once possessed a Y chromosome. It was discovered while examining a genetic sample from the corpse that it is did not have any of the biotic qualities that all asari have. The asari speculate that the male half of their species may have died out when element zero was first introduced to their planet. This would mean that all asari today are survivors of a premature element zero exposure. How this happened is still up to debate."

I'm not saying add male asari. Just that it can be explained how a species can be FEMALE and reproduce. I consider asari female, because they possess all the qualities of a female mammal.

This was all off-topic, but I wanted to add something to the "asari debate".

The whole thing about heterosexual Shepard is just weird to me. I don't get why in an RPG anyone would want any aspect of their character predetermined as far as personality go. It's just another part of freedom. I mean I get that they chose the straight white male as the poster child, but I thought Bioware would want their Hero to be a bit more ambiguous.

Personally I think a few homosexual romance options wouldn't kill anyone. Shepard should be who we want him to be.

Also I think the next Mass Effect character should be a Black poster child.:D Actually I suddenly want to play as an Asian.:ph34r:

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Abramis brama

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Fat Headed Wolf wrote...

Nyoka wrote...

LiquidGrape wrote...

I'll just leave this and this here for good measure.

Also, there was that confirmation by a BioWare dev that ME1 was intended to feature LGBT relationships, but were never finalised due to time constraints.
Allow me to dig it up.

There is still a window of opportunity. Nothing is set in stone.

Image IPB
Isn't love beautiful? :wub:


I laughed at this pic, and not because it's supposedly 2 dudes getting ready to kiss (come on, I'm immature, but I'm not that immature). 

I laughed because it looks like Kaiden is in a massive amount of pain and ShepLoo is..... well, I don't know what you'd call what he's doing with his face there. 


Well you don't see Shepards right hand...

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Ryzaki wrote...

Eiliestl wrote...

Blacklash93 wrote...

Eiliestl wrote...

By playing the game .And does anybody in the game have to be gay?Image IPB

They don't. But if Mass Effect wants to rightly pride itself as an RPG, it would allow him to be gay in the player's eyes.

And we must be playing different games, because I'm not seeing your former point. You're obviously uncomfortable with gays, so I suggest you leave and allow those who can discuss this with comments that stem from a little bit of reason to chat.


Oh yes I am very uncomfortable and disgusted with and arould gay people. But that's not way I'm here. So no I won't leave just yet.If thats ok with you Mayor of the forums.Image IPB


Aren't you the poster that got laughed out of the Anders fanthread when you started spewing homophobia and spamming pictures of Females with Anders going "this is real love"? 

Oh right ,and are't you that know-it-at asian dork that yelled at me for posting pics of DA couples?And I was't laughed out ,I was booted  out for speaking my mine on Anders being out -of the blue Bi.

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Saeran wrote...

Seriously, that dude has been countered with facts and decides his opinions over write them. Don't bother trying, he proved he's a troll in the FftL thread.


My posts are not intended to be trollish in nature. Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make them like that.

Modifié par Abramis brama, 26 avril 2011 - 10:27 .


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Wittand25 wrote...

Have you ever talked to Jacob ?
I am referring to the convo during which they both admire each other´s body and Jacob goes "Cerberus has no rules against fraternisation". After that exchange i was very surprised that Jacob was not a option for MShep.


AND we just lost a chunk of the thread.  

I'm not going to bother retyping my response but in summary: you're reading too much into it and you're using the less relevant definition of fraternization.  Commanding officers are not supposed to become friendly with their subordinates and what he said in no way applies to what you're thinking.  

If what he said + leaning back against a table is what you consider a "come-on" then you've probably learned to take rejection pretty well at this point.  

EDIT: It appears the missing chunk of the thread came back.  Moderators are probably lurking.  

Modifié par Omega-202, 26 avril 2011 - 10:26 .


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There's no canon Shepard YET. Just like there was no canon Revan in 2003...

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Saeran wrote...

Eiliestl wrote...

It was only a matter of time before some moron posts something queer.


It was only a matter of time before some moron decided to post something totally ignorant.

 You don't have a place here.

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Omega-202 wrote...

Wittand25 wrote...

Have you ever talked to Jacob ?
I am referring to the convo during which they both admire each other´s body and Jacob goes "Cerberus has no rules against fraternisation". After that exchange i was very surprised that Jacob was not a option for MShep.


You're completely reading things into that which weren't implied.  

Fraternization:  To associate with others in a brotherly or congenial way

That's the PRIMARY definition of the term.  In military jargon, its usually used in regards to commanding officers becoming friendly with their subordinates in an informal way thereby disrupting the chain of command, NOT to describe sexual or romantic relations.  

Where you got the "admiring each other's bodies" thing is beyond me.  He does lower his eyes and lean back on the table, but that by no means indicates anything beyond familiarity.  He's in no way "checking out" Shepard.  

He is and if only Bioware went the cheap route and has the same conversation for MShep and FShep that is supposed to work for both friendship and romance (Tali has the same issue)

And I know what fraternisation means and what is supposed to be implied here. you said that there was never a hint from MShep being interested in other males, I gave you something that works rather well as one no matter if it was intended or not by Bioware.
Anyway this is a rather pointless argument against an m/m romance in ME3 since neither MShep or FShep showed any interest in Turians or Quarians in ME1 and still could romance them in ME2.

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Omega-202 wrote...

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The PC character is what makes or breaks it. If Shepard is doing something and not me, then I'm not role-playing.


All of that and more is decided for you.  It just so happens that the sexuality of male Shepard is decided for you as well.  

No, there's just no indication of it. That doesn't mean it can't exist.

If I go by your logic here, I'd say "That should change". Bioware deciding Shepard's sexuality is just trivial, as there are plenty of people who would enjoy deciding it themselves.

Modifié par Blacklash93, 26 avril 2011 - 10:31 .