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[Chewin]

leonia42 wrote...

There is no canon.

Fix'd

[jellobell]

leonia42 wrote...

My black, lesbian femshep hopes that the manSheps of the world will be able to get the same sort of respect for their sexual preferences.

My Bisexual Femshep concurs.

[Saphara]

Abramis brama wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

Abramis brama wrote...

I agree with this and I'm happy that nothing about ME 3 indicates that Bioware is going to change Shepards sexuality.

Hard to change something that was never defined in the first place.

They removed the gay romances they already had voiced from the ME1 and 2. I think that makes it perfectly clear for anyone except the most vile pro-gay group here that he's heterosexual.

One could also argue that because they even bothered making it, that they did want him/her to be able to be gay. Why they cut it, we'll never know. If they had wanted him/her to be solely heterosexual, they wouldnt have made that content in the first place due to waste of resources!

[AdmiralCheez]

God forbid a video game ****** of the religious right.

F*cking politics.

[AllBlackShepard]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

JRBreason wrote...

It's not so much the literal aspect of the James bond/Commander Shep I'm trying to point out. 

If bioware is willing to put in a homosexual relationship for the sake of the gay community, why not make the game have a polygamy based relationship for the people who practice it?

and their are black british people....or at least mixed anyways, that would workout in the technical sense. But I enjoy seeing the bond we have now

Than what were you trying to point out?  I'm still not really seeing it.

Using the polygamy argument against me isn't going to work,  I'd be up for Bioware introducing it into a game.  It might be fun creating complicated love polyhedrons.  So more power to bioware for furthering character interaction. 

That's neither here nor there,  I prefer Connery myself just as I like my Lesbian Renegade Shepherd while some may enjoy their Straight Male Paragon.

Ok, I respectfully disagree with you though. I get your point on the whole freedom with game. 

To avoid an entirely different argument on it's own, I think you and me are just going to differ on the fundamentals of how the game should be designed. You would enjoy seeing bioware give the player full control on how they act on relationships. 

My problem is how is this going to tie into the game itself. If Bioware gives the player whatever choices they want such as relationship status as you described. They should allow players who want to fall in love with their animals as well, in which case you'd be seeing forums saying Bioware needs to have relationships regarding relationships with their animals. 

I just think it would be easier if bioware kept it they way they initially made it. 

[AllBlackShepard]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

God forbid a video game ****** of the religious right.

F*cking politics.

what religious right are you talking about?

[LiquidGrape]

JRBreason wrote...

My problem is how is this going to tie into the game itself. If Bioware gives the player whatever choices they want such as relationship status as you described. They should allow players who want to fall in love with their animals as well, in which case you'd be seeing forums saying Bioware needs to have relationships regarding relationships with their animals.

Please tell me you didn't make that comparison just now.
Seriously. If you tell me that's your line of thinking, we're going to have an issue here. A major one.

If you meant platonic love for a pet, however, there's no issue.

Modifié par LiquidGrape, 26 avril 2011 - 07:34 .

[AdmiralCheez]

JRBreason wrote...

AdmiralCheez wrote...

God forbid a video game ****** of the religious right.

F*cking politics.

what religious right are you talking about?

This one.

Also, OH NOES, MY MASCULINITY!

[Saphara]

LiquidGrape wrote...

JRBreason wrote...

My problem is how is this going to tie into the game itself. If Bioware gives the player whatever choices they want such as relationship status as you described. They should allow players who want to fall in love with their animals as well, in which case you'd be seeing forums saying Bioware needs to have relationships regarding relationships with their animals.

Please tell me you didn't make that comparison just now.
Seriously. If you tell me that's your line of thinking, we're going to have an issue here. A major one.

If you meant platonic love for a pet, however, there's no issue.

He is invoking the sliipery slope theroy. That never makes for a good argument. Ever.

[AngelicMachinery]

JRBreason wrote...

Ok, I respectfully disagree with you though. I get your point on the whole freedom with game. 

To avoid an entirely different argument on it's own, I think you and me are just going to differ on the fundamentals of how the game should be designed. You would enjoy seeing bioware give the player full control on how they act on relationships. 

My problem is how is this going to tie into the game itself. If Bioware gives the player whatever choices they want such as relationship status as you described. They should allow players who want to fall in love with their animals as well, in which case you'd be seeing forums saying Bioware needs to have relationships regarding relationships with their animals. 

I just think it would be easier if bioware kept it they way they initially made it. 

If you don't believe characters should be able to stray from the default shepherd why are we given the oppurtunity to make choices that Default Shepherd hadn't?  I mean,  if that's what Bioware prefered why don't we just have a game on rails like any JRPG on the Market?


Yes,  because Polygamy and homosexuality equal bestiality.(if you can't tell this is sarcasm) the comparison is absolutely insulting to everyone involved. 

Modifié par AngelicMachinery, 26 avril 2011 - 07:37 .

[CroGamer002]

jellobell wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

My black, lesbian femshep hopes that the manSheps of the world will be able to get the same sort of respect for their sexual preferences.

My Bisexual Femshep concurs.

I guess my straight black FemShep loyal to Kaidan too.
And my black Renegon ManShep.
My Latino pure Paragon ManShep.
My Spanish FemShep.
And my Russian lesbian FemShep.

[AllBlackShepard]

LiquidGrape wrote...

JRBreason wrote...

My problem is how is this going to tie into the game itself. If Bioware gives the player whatever choices they want such as relationship status as you described. They should allow players who want to fall in love with their animals as well, in which case you'd be seeing forums saying Bioware needs to have relationships regarding relationships with their animals.

Please tell me you didn't make that comparison just now.
Seriously. If you tell me that's your line of thinking, we're going to have an issue here. A major one.

Just now as in today? well then yes, explain to me the problem "we" . are going to have rather than just saying one is taking place. Because I think you and I thinking of two different things regarding that comparison.

[jellobell]

JRBreason wrote...

My problem is how is this going to tie into the game itself. If Bioware gives the player whatever choices they want such as relationship status as you described. They should allow players who want to fall in love with their animals as well, in which case you'd be seeing forums saying Bioware needs to have relationships regarding relationships with their animals. 

Whoa. Stop. Back up. I was following you up to this point but comparing the lack of S/S options to a lack of beastiality is just rude. It is nowhere near the same thing.

[Eudaemonium]

JRBreason wrote...

Ok, I respectfully disagree with you though. I get your point on the whole freedom with game. 

To avoid an entirely different argument on it's own, I think you and me are just going to differ on the fundamentals of how the game should be designed. You would enjoy seeing bioware give the player full control on how they act on relationships. 

My problem is how is this going to tie into the game itself. If Bioware gives the player whatever choices they want such as relationship status as you described. They should allow players who want to fall in love with their animals as well, in which case you'd be seeing forums saying Bioware needs to have relationships regarding relationships with their animals. 

I just think it would be easier if bioware kept it they way they initially made it.

The thing is, Shepard's sexuality doesn't really tie into the game's story at all. The romances are optional extra content which some people don't even bother with. Nowhere in the game does Shepard's romantic attachment tie into a major plot point. It is purely an optional extra for the purposes of player-choice and roleplaying. Additionally, your animal example doesn't really fly (and might be considered insulting, whether you intended it that way or not), since you can already have sexual relationships with totally different species in ME already.

[RAF1940]

Play Shepard however you want people. That's what this game is about.

[Leonia]

AdmiralCheez wrote...
This one.

Also, OH NOES, MY MASCULINITY!

Your avatar increases you masculinity by 100 points.

Anyway, why is a new thread being created on this topic? Is the "Fight for the Love" thread not good enough any more?

[AdmiralCheez]

Mesina2 wrote...

jellobell wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

My black, lesbian femshep hopes that the manSheps of the world will be able to get the same sort of respect for their sexual preferences.

My Bisexual Femshep concurs.

I guess my straight black FemShep loyal to Kaidan too.
And my black Renegon ManShep.
My Latino pure Paragon ManShep.
My Spanish FemShep.
And my Russian lesbian FemShep.

Add in my white lesbian FemShep
And my straight white DudeShep
And my Polynesian DudeShep
And my Greek bisexual FemShep
And my gay Dudeshep
And that one crazy xenophile I have running around.

IF I CAN LOVE A GIRL WITH CHICKEN LEGS, I CAN LOVE ANOTHER MAN

[CroGamer002]

^I though you have only 2 Sheps.

[AdmiralCheez]

leonia42 wrote...

Your avatar increases you masculinity by 100 points.

Garrus makes everything manlier.

[Saphara]

AdmiralCheez wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

jellobell wrote...

leonia42 wrote...

My black, lesbian femshep hopes that the manSheps of the world will be able to get the same sort of respect for their sexual preferences.

My Bisexual Femshep concurs.

I guess my straight black FemShep loyal to Kaidan too.
And my black Renegon ManShep.
My Latino pure Paragon ManShep.
My Spanish FemShep.
And my Russian lesbian FemShep.

Add in my white lesbian FemShep
And my straight white DudeShep
And my Polynesian DudeShep
And my Greek bisexual FemShep
And my gay Dudeshep
And that one crazy xenophile I have running around.

IF I CAN LOVE A GIRL WITH CHICKEN LEGS, I CAN LOVE ANOTHER MAN

Careful. The guy is going to come back with a beastiality comment because you said the girl had the legs of a chicken!

[LiquidGrape]

JRBreason wrote...

Just now as in today? well then yes, explain to me the problem "we" . are going to have rather than just saying one is taking place. Because I think you and I thinking of two different things regarding that comparison.

I simply want to know whether you were referring to platonic love for a pet (which resonates with us on an innate level regardless, so it's a severely flawed argument anyway) or if you really jumped the shark and made the "slippery slope" comparison of bi/homosexuality to bestiality.

[AdmiralCheez]

Mesina2 wrote...

^I though you have only 2 Sheps.

Only two I've beat the game with all the way, yeah.  I've got a billion in progress.

Short attention span, woohoo!

[AllBlackShepard]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

JRBreason wrote...

Ok, I respectfully disagree with you though. I get your point on the whole freedom with game. 

To avoid an entirely different argument on it's own, I think you and me are just going to differ on the fundamentals of how the game should be designed. You would enjoy seeing bioware give the player full control on how they act on relationships. 

My problem is how is this going to tie into the game itself. If Bioware gives the player whatever choices they want such as relationship status as you described. They should allow players who want to fall in love with their animals as well, in which case you'd be seeing forums saying Bioware needs to have relationships regarding relationships with their animals. 

I just think it would be easier if bioware kept it they way they initially made it. 

If you don't believe characters should be able to stray from the default shepherd why are we given the oppurtunity to make choices that Default Shepherd hadn't?  I mean,  if that's what Bioware prefered why don't we just have a game on rails like any JRPG on the Market?


Yes,  because Polygamy and homosexuality equal bestiality, the comparison is absolutely insulting to everyone involved. 

So the question isn't whether or not the game is scripted.....which it is.....but that if we can't get the choices we wan't we should complain to bioware that their not making the game accessible to people like you who want more options. 

The game has a limit to what choices the player can make. I love the fact that it is an RPG, and you do have choices to make. 

My point is, is Bioware seriously going to change the game because people want to see something (gay romance) and are willing to complain about it. 

If so, then the same thing should apply to people who want more choices like a romance between humans and hamsters.

And I'm not comparing polygamy and homosexuality. I'm comparing the love interest that people have with the same sex, multiple partners, or their animals. 

You can't say that you or somebody you know loves somebody or something more than another person. If somebody loves their hamster as much as a man loves another man, it should be left at that. 

[Tirigon]

BioWare clearly stated that there is no Canon Shepard.

That means, there´s no reason that he remains hetero either.



Edit: With regards to the post above me: Yes. There is indeed no reason why Shepard shouldn´t be able to rape his hamster either, if he wishes so.

Modifié par Tirigon, 26 avril 2011 - 07:43 .

[AdmiralCheez]

OP, do you have a problem with romancing Liara, Thane, Garrus, or Tali? Because they're not human, you know.

OH NO! BESTIALITY!