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centauri2002 wrote..
Because a gay or bisexual man cannot be manly? <_<
And you can stop substituting "some people" for "I" now. We've caught on.
didymos1120 wrote...
One of those people, and the most important of course, being you?
No they can not. I have yet to meet one. Notthing but raging queens,. Here.centauri2002 wrote...
Abramis brama wrote...
Because a character they're playing with (a manly space marine) is suddenly gay. Some people find gay romances in movies disgusting. That's why.
Because a gay or bisexual man cannot be manly? <_<
And you can stop substituting "some people" for "I" now. We've caught on.
Abramis brama wrote...
I've played only femsheps though. Sorry to disappoint.
didymos1120 wrote...
We don't. The people who want it keep wanting it and saying so. The ones who don't do likewise. Bioware then decides what they'll do.
Eiliestl wrote...
No they can not. I have yet to meet one. Notthing but raging queens,. Here.
So gald I'm moving.
Bioware is always spending their resources in places where the fanbase wantes. It's fanservice. And what we want is no worse or better than what the Tali-mancers wanted years back. Or whatever specific content you may hope is in the game that would satisfy you personally. It's no different.ReconTeam wrote...
TommyServo wrote...
I think the logical response to this would be live and let live, and don't worry about how other people want to play the game, because it's truly no skin off your back.
It does involve work in Biowares part which in my opinion could be better used elsewhere. So it does effect me. Plus BIoware either has to add a gay character or suddenly someone turns bisexual. I am no fan of the "Shepard-sexual" concept for characters.
leonia42 wrote...
Oh boy, not the "gay men can't be manly" argument.. I think I'm going to have to leave the thread now. Before my IQ drops.
Saeran wrote...
JRBreason wrote...
I'm not questioning your motivation; I applaud you for it. But if enough people convince bioware to keep the game in the same direction in which it has been selling millions of copies of and winning countless awards; don't get mad. I would respect bioware's decision if it did the same for people like you who wan to see the game progress.
This isn't a political race (to me)
If bioware adds gay relationships, I'll still play the game. I won't make a thread say I HATE M.E.
All I'm asking for is, let people who don't agree with you speak too.
YOUR Shepard can be straight as an arrow if you wish to play him that way, like a projection of yourself I assume.
TommyServo wrote...
Abramis brama wrote...
I've played only femsheps though. Sorry to disappoint.
So you're ok with FemShep being (potentially) gay, but not MShep?
Because she is.
mrsph wrote...
Explain Kelly.
Modifié par Abramis brama, 26 avril 2011 - 09:17 .
Eiliestl wrote...
No they can not. I have yet to meet one. Notthing but raging queens,. Here.centauri2002 wrote...
Because a gay or bisexual man cannot be manly? <_<
So gald I'm moving.
Modifié par LiquidGrape, 26 avril 2011 - 09:17 .
seriously that one)
No. Shepard is not established in that way because there is no reason for him/her to be.hawat333 wrote...
I absolutely agree with every single word the OP has said.
I might add that the asari with their overly femininized (if that's the correct word, English isn't my mother tongue) characteristics are indeed misleading - leading people who romanced Liara to the conclusion that FemShep is bisexual. I guess it's just an intended but (in my opinion) poor desing choice with asari (I'd rather try to come up with something more original for a mono-gendered species, but that's not my call to make). In the end of the day, both female and male Shepard remains straight.
I also prefer it this way because I found some situations in DA2 rather... uncomfortable.
Shepard is heterosexual. Why? Because he/she is an already established character. Therefore it only makes sense if it remains that way. That's usually the case with pre-defined characters and third person narrative (where we only guide the character and not become one with him/her).
I don't like Hawke being awkwardly and uncomfortably bisexual, but I don't make a campaing for changing that. I accept it because he/she is an established character.
So...
/sign
Modifié par Blacklash93, 26 avril 2011 - 09:18 .
That game would never sell. Who could could enjoy playing a game like that. Staring a gay leader.JRBreason wrote...
Saeran wrote...
JRBreason wrote...
I'm not questioning your motivation; I applaud you for it. But if enough people convince bioware to keep the game in the same direction in which it has been selling millions of copies of and winning countless awards; don't get mad. I would respect bioware's decision if it did the same for people like you who wan to see the game progress.
This isn't a political race (to me)
If bioware adds gay relationships, I'll still play the game. I won't make a thread say I HATE M.E.
All I'm asking for is, let people who don't agree with you speak too.
YOUR Shepard can be straight as an arrow if you wish to play him that way, like a projection of yourself I assume.
Exactly my point. Listen, in ME shepard was designed to be hetero. I don't care what your shepard is, based on the choices you where given regarding a gay relationship (for males).....which was 0....leads me to believe he is hetero. Bioware had already designed a character in which they had success and earned fans. The same thing applied to ME2.
If Bioware's fan base demonstrated that they like a hetero Male shepard so be it.
I wouldn't want to change that. The whole point of the game is to provided with choices, however, bioware decides what those choices will be.
If shepard was a gay male, I wouldn't ask to change it. I would let it be and continue enjoying the game.
hawat333 wrote...
I absolutely agree with every single word the OP has said.
I might add that the asari with their overly femininized (if that's the correct word, English isn't my mother tongue) characteristics are indeed misleading - leading people who romanced Liara to the conclusion that FemShep is bisexual. I guess it's just an intended but (in my opinion) poor desing choice with asari (I'd rather try to come up with something more original for a mono-gendered species, but that's not my call to make). In the end of the day, both female and male Shepard remains straight.
I also prefer it this way because I found some situations in DA2 rather... uncomfortable.
Shepard is heterosexual. Why? Because he/she is an already established character. Therefore it only makes sense if it remains that way. That's usually the case with pre-defined characters and third person narrative (where we only guide the character and not become one with him/her).
I don't like Hawke being awkwardly and uncomfortably bisexual, but I don't make a campaing for changing that. I accept it because he/she is an established character.
So...
/sign
hawat333 wrote...
I absolutely agree with every single word the OP has said.
I might add that the asari with their overly femininized (if that's the correct word, English isn't my mother tongue) characteristics are indeed misleading - leading people who romanced Liara to the conclusion that FemShep is bisexual. I guess it's just an intended but (in my opinion) poor desing choice with asari (I'd rather try to come up with something more original for a mono-gendered species, but that's not my call to make). In the end of the day, both female and male Shepard remains straight.
I also prefer it this way because I found some situations in DA2 rather... uncomfortable.
Shepard is heterosexual. Why? Because he/she is an already established character. Therefore it only makes sense if it remains that way. That's usually the case with pre-defined characters and third person narrative (where we only guide the character and not become one with him/her).
I don't like Hawke being awkwardly and uncomfortably bisexual, but I don't make a campaing for changing that. I accept it because he/she is an established character.
So...
/sign
Guest_mrsph_*
Abramis brama wrote...
More of a easter egg.
Should I know this queen?LiquidGrape wrote...
Eiliestl wrote...
No they can not. I have yet to meet one. Notthing but raging queens,. Here.centauri2002 wrote...
Because a gay or bisexual man cannot be manly? <_<
So gald I'm moving.
Your callous and ignorant comments aside, meet Thomas Roberts.
You lose.
Good day.
Blacklash93 wrote...
ReconTeam wrote...
It does involve work in Biowares part which in my opinion could be better used elsewhere. So it does effect me. Plus Bioware either has to add a gay character or suddenly someone turns bisexual. I am no fan of the "Shepard-sexual" concept for characters.
Bioware is always spending their resources in places where the fanbase wantes. It's fanservice. And what we want is no worse or better than what the Tali-mancers wanted years back. Or whatever specific content you may hope is in the game that would satisfy you personally. It's no different.
And peolpe can be bi, btw.
Modifié par ReconTeam, 26 avril 2011 - 09:21 .
Abramis brama wrote...
No she isn't. Asari are not female.
centauri2002 wrote...
I'll explain this simply for you. Asari are mono-gendered.
Mono = one.
One does not equal none.
They've been stated by BioWare as being all female.
Clear enough for you?
Eiliestl wrote...
That game would never sell. Who could could enjoy playing a game like that. Staring a gay leader.JRBreason wrote...
Saeran wrote...
JRBreason wrote...
I'm not questioning your motivation; I applaud you for it. But if enough people convince bioware to keep the game in the same direction in which it has been selling millions of copies of and winning countless awards; don't get mad. I would respect bioware's decision if it did the same for people like you who wan to see the game progress.
This isn't a political race (to me)
If bioware adds gay relationships, I'll still play the game. I won't make a thread say I HATE M.E.
All I'm asking for is, let people who don't agree with you speak too.
YOUR Shepard can be straight as an arrow if you wish to play him that way, like a projection of yourself I assume.
Exactly my point. Listen, in ME shepard was designed to be hetero. I don't care what your shepard is, based on the choices you where given regarding a gay relationship (for males).....which was 0....leads me to believe he is hetero. Bioware had already designed a character in which they had success and earned fans. The same thing applied to ME2.
If Bioware's fan base demonstrated that they like a hetero Male shepard so be it.
I wouldn't want to change that. The whole point of the game is to provided with choices, however, bioware decides what those choices will be.
If shepard was a gay male, I wouldn't ask to change it. I would let it be and continue enjoying the game.
TommyServo wrote...
Don't bother. This guy was ridiculous about the same thing in the FFtL thread. His response was basically "I reject your reality and substitute my own."
Ignore him.
JRBreason wrote...
In all honesty, I would never make a character like shepard gay.
Their isn't one action hero that is gay. Why? because it's the traditional sense of how badass characters are designed.
But for some reason the gay community thinks that a gay hero is just as equal as a straight hero. So in respect towards me not being able to prove against that (until a movie with a gay hero fails) I have to deal with it.
Modifié par centauri2002, 26 avril 2011 - 09:27 .
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