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[ADLegend21]

some soliders kill civilians (if they're ordered, or if Civilians attack, etc.) but Jacob does not. Thane as assasinated civilians (how he met his wife in fact) and is told to kill people who are not dangers to anyone but his employers. Jacob is a soldier loyal to a military body or cause (fighting the Reapers alonside Shepard.) his dislike for Thane is understandable.

[VioletSparks]

I find the 'nigel fish & chips' banter racist... :|

Edit: but I do like the OP, jacob's just being a ****

Modifié par VioletSparks, 26 avril 2011 - 09:36 .

[CulturalGeekGirl]

VioletSparks wrote...

I find the 'nigel fish & chips' banter racist... :|

Edit: but I do like the OP, jacob's just being a ****

;_;

Does it help that I'm an anglophile? And that I own all of Red Dwarf on DVD? Which I totally paid full price for? 

[Sandbox47]

Well... I can sympathize with Thane for not liking Jacob but vice versa... I dunno. I think that it's because Jacob is a kinda dude, while Thane is loyal and dignified. I think that there is a real distinction there.

[KnightofPhoenix]

Because he is green.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Because he is green.

True. To horribly paraphrase Pratchett, in the future black and white will live together in perfect harmony... and gang up on green.

[Fat Headed Wolf]

The title of this thread made me think of "Joanie Loves Chachi". Which, of course, made me think of Jacob and Thane in a sitcom called "Jacob Hates Thane". Which, of course, made me picture them standing back to back with their arms folded as the title of said show appeared beneath them as 80's music played. Which, of course, made me think of an episode I would make up which would have Thane steal Jacob's girl, only to have them realize their friendship is more important in the end.

Where am I?

Modifié par Fat Headed Wolf, 26 avril 2011 - 09:43 .

[ADLegend21]

Sandbox47 wrote...

Well... I can sympathize with Thane for not liking Jacob but vice versa... I dunno. I think that it's because Jacob is a kinda dude, while Thane is loyal and dignified. I think that there is a real distinction there.

what distinction. Jacob has concerns because since thane is an assasin for higher, someone could possibly contact him and pay him a large sum of money to kill Shepard in her sleep. While that doesn't happen, Jacob doesn't know Thane that well so he can only go off of his chosen profession. They don't ahvea  loyalty ocnflict so Jacob must not hate Thane that much (like how Tali hates Legion enough to confront him in the AI core and how Jack hates miranda enough to go to her office.)

[Malanek]

ReallyRue wrote...

Jacob took an instant dislike to Thane before he even mentioned his son.

You don't see everything that happens. Cerberus has detailed dossiers on all those they recruit. Jacob knowing that Thane Krios has a son who was abandoned is probable. There are multiple facets to Jacobs dislike. He sees Thane as a lousy father, a hired murderer and a possible romantic rival in the case of a femshep who isn't even of the same species. They don't have an argument like Jack/Miranda or Tali/Legion because Jacob doesn't mind mouthing off at someone he doesn't like but isn't going to jeopardise the mission because of it.

Modifié par Malanek999, 26 avril 2011 - 09:47 .

[Sandbox47]

ADLegend21 wrote...

Sandbox47 wrote...

Well... I can sympathize with Thane for not liking Jacob but vice versa... I dunno. I think that it's because Jacob is a kinda dude, while Thane is loyal and dignified. I think that there is a real distinction there.

what distinction. Jacob has concerns because since thane is an assasin for higher, someone could possibly contact him and pay him a large sum of money to kill Shepard in her sleep. While that doesn't happen, Jacob doesn't know Thane that well so he can only go off of his chosen profession. They don't ahvea  loyalty ocnflict so Jacob must not hate Thane that much (like how Tali hates Legion enough to confront him in the AI core and how Jack hates miranda enough to go to her office.)

Exactly, Legend. That's why the whole "Assassin vs Whine" is moot. It's really a perceptivenes issue. Like - you see someone who wears a gas mask and is naked from the waist down and think: "This guy I do not like".
Jacob sees someone who is an assassin and goes "This guy I do not like". Don't overthink it. Sometimes things are that simple.

[ADLegend21]

Sandbox47 wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...

Sandbox47 wrote...

Well... I can sympathize with Thane for not liking Jacob but vice versa... I dunno. I think that it's because Jacob is a kinda dude, while Thane is loyal and dignified. I think that there is a real distinction there.

what distinction. Jacob has concerns because since thane is an assasin for higher, someone could possibly contact him and pay him a large sum of money to kill Shepard in her sleep. While that doesn't happen, Jacob doesn't know Thane that well so he can only go off of his chosen profession. They don't ahvea  loyalty ocnflict so Jacob must not hate Thane that much (like how Tali hates Legion enough to confront him in the AI core and how Jack hates miranda enough to go to her office.)

Exactly, Legend. That's why the whole "Assassin vs Whine" is moot. It's really a perceptivenes issue. Like - you see someone who wears a gas mask and is naked from the waist down and think: "This guy I do not like".
Jacob sees someone who is an assassin and goes "This guy I do not like". Don't overthink it. Sometimes things are that simple.

not liking doens't mean he hates Thane. Also Jacob doesn't whine. as I said there's no loyalty conflict so Jacob's dislike must not be strong enough.

[Sandbox47]

I agree with that ^

[Sandbox47]

See how totally easy I am to argue with?

[RAF1940]

ReallyRue wrote...

Jacob took an instant dislike to Thane before he even mentioned his son.

true

[VioletSparks]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

VioletSparks wrote...

I find the 'nigel fish & chips' banter racist... :|

Edit: but I do like the OP, jacob's just being a ****

;_;

Does it help that I'm an anglophile? And that I own all of Red Dwarf on DVD? Which I totally paid full price for? 

lol... humour doesn't translate well to text... I was joking

[Someone With Mass]

mrsph wrote...

Always felt like a confrontation got cut out at some point between those two.

Which isn't a bad thing if you ask me. The ship was turning into a damn whine house.

[Dean_the_Young]

Someone With Mass wrote...

ADLegend21 wrote...
Jacob's a soldier, of course there's killing involved. He's just not an assasin and he doesn't kill Civilians like an assasin would. I bet if Zaeed was an on disc character Jacob would have a problem with him too especilly since he wants to let Civilians die to kill someone. being a soldier doesn't make him a hypocrite for not liking Assasin's.

Both assassins and soldiers kills because they're told to. 

Assassins just happens to be more subtle about it and gets more money.

And both rape and making love are just having sex with someone. Perfectly identical!

[CulturalGeekGirl]

VioletSparks wrote...

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

VioletSparks wrote...

I find the 'nigel fish & chips' banter racist... :|

Edit: but I do like the OP, jacob's just being a ****

;_;

Does it help that I'm an anglophile? And that I own all of Red Dwarf on DVD? Which I totally paid full price for? 

lol... humour doesn't translate well to text... I was joking

I was... also... joking...

Yeaaaaaaah that's the ticket.

 

(I thought you were probably joking, but the things I've seen people get upset about on these boards. THE THINGS.)

[Someone With Mass]

Dean_the_Young wrote...
]And both rape and making love are just having sex with someone. Perfectly identical!

That's a completely different subject, but whatever.

[I AM KROGAAANNN]

Elite Midget wrote...

Thane murders for a living. Jacob used to make a living stopping killers from killing.

He has a plausible reason to distrust a known assassin.

Thane kills bad people for a living. Its something Jacob doesn't understand.