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[hoorayforicecream]

I distinctly remember a number of people complaining specifically about Meredith's super anime jumping ability during the final battle of DA2. I was looking back at some old DA:O promotional material, and saw this and this. I am just curious, did the Sacred Ashes trailer cause people to complain about super jumping then as well?

[Maria Caliban]

If you ever find yourself asking 'Did people complain about X when Y happened?' the answer on the BioWare forum is always 'Yes, some people complained.'

A handful of people complained about the super jumping. Most people on the forum at the time had seen the in-game videos of DA:O, however, and knew the game wouldn't play out like that.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 27 avril 2011 - 01:48 .

[bleetman]

I personally thought the trailer was a bit silly, yeh

If I had to nitpick, I'd say neither one of them was wearing bulky plate armour, which makes it marginally more plausible. But yeh, it's pretty absurd watching Leliana flip around. Not that it actually happened in game, thankfully.

[Halo Quea]

Like a lot of people I just thought it was hilarious. It just caused you to ask, "what is going on here?"

When I saw her jumping around like that I really expected Flemeth to show up and bring the entire circus of Meredith's acrobats and the walking statues to an end. But as it turns out no one actually kills Meredith, the cursed lyrium consumes her.

It was just a little too cartoonish.

[Paraxial]

People complain about everything all the time.

[Ulicus]

Framed narrative saves the day again.

Same goes for Orsino and the Harvester. Here's how things actually went down:

Orsino: Meredith wants to see blood magic!? I'll give her blood magic! *slits wrists too deeply* Arrgh. Urrggh! *dies*
Party: ...
Varric: So, I'm gonna go with "And he turned into a giant monster and we killed him". That good with you guys?

[KnightofPhoenix]

A cinematic trailer is different than an in-game fight with Meredith with soul edge, red eyes and electricity around her, displaying Matrix like acrobatics, while turning statues into transformers equipped with flamethrowers.

[TJPags]

Ulicus wrote...

Framed narrative saves the day again.

Same goes for Orsino and the Harvester. Here's how things actually went down:

Orsino: Meredith wants to see blood magic!? I'll give her blood magic! *slits wrists too deeply* Arrgh. Urrggh! *dies*
Party: ...
Varric: So, I'm gonna go with "And he turned into a giant monster and we killed him". That good with you guys?

Makes more sense that whatever explanation we were supposed to have gotten from the game. . . .

[Xilizhra]

I never noticed anyone complaining about Orsino turning into a Harvester for technical reasons, just stupidity-of-storyline reasons. What sort of world is it where you can accept people turning themselves into berserk flesh golems, but not accept a magical artifact giving someone the power to jump really high?

[Elhanan]

Twas not jumping; was magnertic pull from all that metal she was bearing. Comes from being polar opposites of the Champion.... *bazinga*

[Ulicus]

Xilizhra wrote...

I never noticed anyone complaining about Orsino turning into a Harvester for technical reasons, just stupidity-of-storyline reasons. What sort of world is it where you can accept people turning themselves into berserk flesh golems, but not accept a magical artifact giving someone the power to jump really high?

What kind of power is "jump" anyway?

[Halo Quea]

Ulicus wrote...

Framed narrative saves the day again.

Same goes for Orsino and the Harvester. Here's how things actually went down:

Orsino: Meredith wants to see blood magic!? I'll give her blood magic! *slits wrists too deeply* Arrgh. Urrggh! *dies*
Party: ...
Varric: So, I'm gonna go with "And he turned into a giant monster and we killed him". That good with you guys?

Anything would have been better than Orsino going out like a mad man.   When I saw all of the corpses gathering around him I yelled Orsino STOP! lol!   Please prove to me that there is at least one sane mage left in Kirkwall! Lmao!! 

[Sussurus]

Edit: @ Ulicus.

One a blond templar lady should not have.
She should have had an attack sweep with a big ol' possessed hocky stick.
A finger wagging attack of ultimate doom.
A sent to bed early instant death attack.

Modifié par Sussurus, 27 avril 2011 - 02:34 .

[hoorayforicecream]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

A cinematic trailer is different than an in-game fight with Meredith with soul edge, red eyes and electricity around her, displaying Matrix like acrobatics, while turning statues into transformers equipped with flamethrowers.

It sure looked like a mid-battle cinematic sequence to me. The UI goes away, both my characters and Meredith perform animations beyond my control, camera angles change to better frame it, and there's special dialogue.

[Rifneno]

Everyone is Superman during cutscenes.  Remember when Jack roflstomped 2 heavy mechs at once in the span of maybe 5 seconds?   

[TJPags]

Ulicus wrote...

Xilizhra wrote...

I never noticed anyone complaining about Orsino turning into a Harvester for technical reasons, just stupidity-of-storyline reasons. What sort of world is it where you can accept people turning themselves into berserk flesh golems, but not accept a magical artifact giving someone the power to jump really high?

What kind of power is "jump" anyway?

I kind of thought it was "levitate". 

[ImoenBaby]

Ulicus wrote...

Framed narrative saves the day again.

Same goes for Orsino and the Harvester. Here's how things actually went down:

Orsino: Meredith wants to see blood magic!? I'll give her blood magic! *slits wrists too deeply* Arrgh. Urrggh! *dies*
Party: ...
Varric: So, I'm gonna go with "And he turned into a giant monster and we killed him". That good with you guys?

 I'm definitely going with it from now on.

[KnightofPhoenix]

@ Hourayforicecream.
Still not a cinematic trailer, where the point is to be over the top. Here, it just looks ridiculous. Not to mention I felt no tension or anything at all for that matter fighting a lunatic nightmare wanabe. But Bioware has a history of mediocre boss fights except maybe ME2 DLCs. 

Modifié par KnightofPhoenix, 27 avril 2011 - 02:35 .

[KnightofPhoenix]

Rifneno wrote...

Everyone is Superman during cutscenes.  Remember when Jack roflstomped 2 heavy mechs at once in the span of maybe 5 seconds?   

That was meh too, but at least it didn't pose itself as the game's climax.

...The Terminator reaper did...

[Elhanan]

Ulicus wrote...

[What kind of power is "jump" anyway?

Back Over Back; upgraded?

[Sussurus]

@KnightofPhoenix.

It's been a "thing" for as long as I've played rpg's tbh.
BG 1, Saravok you face him a few times, and his allies pretty much immune to everything.
BG:2: Bohdi, Irenicus both faced so many times each given more and more powers as it goes along.
BG:ToB: pretty much Awakenings with no rpg all combat, with the added bonus of boss fights that just keep respawning the same boss again and again.

At least DA:O the only time you face the same boss is if you side with Alistair for king and Loghain gets the support.

Modifié par Sussurus, 27 avril 2011 - 02:43 .

[Rifneno]

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Everyone is Superman during cutscenes.  Remember when Jack roflstomped 2 heavy mechs at once in the span of maybe 5 seconds?   

That was meh too, but at least it didn't pose itself as the game's climax.

...The Terminator reaper did...

I didn't mind the Terminator Reaper actually.  I've got a very high tolerance for "trying too hard to be epic" cheese.  Meredith is actually the only end boss I can remember in any game that made me just facepalm.  Well, not counting MMORPG's.

Sussurus wrote...

@KnightofPhoenix.

It's been a "thing" for as long as I've played rpg's tbh.
BG 1, Saravok you face him a few times, and his allies pretty much immune to everything.
BG:2: Bohdi, Irenicus both faced so many times each given more and more powers as it goes along.
BG:ToB: pretty much Awakenings with no rpg all combat, with the added bonus of boss fights that just keep respawning the same boss again and again.

At least DA:O the only time you face the same boss is if you side with Alistair for king and Loghain gets the support.

BG2 and ToB were awesome.  Blasphemer.  Didn't really care for BG1 though.  Donno how you think ToB didn't have any RPG to it, there was plenty of RP.

[Sussurus]

Rifneno wrote...

KnightofPhoenix wrote...

Rifneno wrote...

Everyone is Superman during cutscenes.  Remember when Jack roflstomped 2 heavy mechs at once in the span of maybe 5 seconds?   

That was meh too, but at least it didn't pose itself as the game's climax.

...The Terminator reaper did...

I didn't mind the Terminator Reaper actually.  I've got a very high tolerance for "trying too hard to be epic" cheese.  Meredith is actually the only end boss I can remember in any game that made me just facepalm.  Well, not counting MMORPG's.

Sussurus wrote...

@KnightofPhoenix.

It's been a "thing" for as long as I've played rpg's tbh.
BG 1, Saravok you face him a few times, and his allies pretty much immune to everything.
BG:2: Bohdi, Irenicus both faced so many times each given more and more powers as it goes along.
BG:ToB: pretty much Awakenings with no rpg all combat, with the added bonus of boss fights that just keep respawning the same boss again and again.

At least DA:O the only time you face the same boss is if you side with Alistair for king and Loghain gets the support.

BG2 and ToB were awesome.  Blasphemer.  Didn't really care for BG1 though.  Donno how you think ToB didn't have any RPG to it, there was plenty of RP.

 Don't get me wrong next to PS:T they were the only games I played for 6 years.
However the top boss fights were not original, and lacked compared to every encounter with another party.

Play BG: SoA chuck full of content and highly polished story, then play ToB if it was not tacked on to the greatness of SoA  it'd be scrap.
ToB has no rpg just linear fights, imagine ToB as an expansion to DA:O's... less content than awakening..

Modifié par Sussurus, 27 avril 2011 - 02:55 .