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[JKoopman]

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.

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So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...?

Modifié par JKoopman, 27 avril 2011 - 04:32 .

[marshalleck]

Why are you asking? It came from Mac Walters, the lead writer. How could it be anything but confirmation? Pointless thread.

[Urdnot Orrad]

[JKoopman]

marshalleck wrote...

Why are you asking? It came from Mac Walters, the lead writer. How could it be anything but confirmation? Pointless thread.

I was simply pointing it out, as it had been a prior point of contention and I was unsure whether its confirmation had been mentioned before.

[AngelicMachinery]

JKoopman wrote...


So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...?

It doesn't have to be a little human, it's the shape of the race that it was born from.

[Fiery Phoenix]

I thought it was rather self-explanatory from the beginning, but it's nice to see a confirmation.

[MajesticJazz]

JKoopman wrote...

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...?

Still doesn't make sense to me.

If every Reaper resembles the species that it "reaped", then why do they ALL look like cuttlefish?

[Jo Dan 28]

I have been more curious about what mr. walters means by "effecient design" for their purpose. Does he just mean the ability to have protective armor and multiple appendages (sp?) as weaponry. And if it is a "design", who designs it? In other words, this is a chicken or the egg question.

[didymos1120]

MajesticJazz wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...?

Still doesn't make sense to me.

If every Reaper resembles the species that it "reaped", then why do they ALL look like cuttlefish?

You might try reading the quote.

[Fiery Phoenix]

^

[Cyberstrike nTo]

Jo Dan 28 wrote...

I have been more curious about what mr. walters means by "effecient design" for their purpose. Does he just mean the ability to have protective armor and multiple appendages (sp?) as weaponry. And if it is a "design", who designs it? In other words, this is a chicken or the egg question.

I think Sovereign (and I might be wrong it's been a while since I played ME1) said: "We have no beginning. We have no end. We simply are."  That could mean (if I got the quote right) a few things:

1) The Reapers either don't know their own origins they forgot or deleted it for some reason,

2)  They think of themselves as gods and see no reason to explain their history, origins, and/or backstory to beings that they consider inferior.

3) Both one and two.

4) Some other reason.

Modifié par Cyberstrike nTo, 27 avril 2011 - 08:12 .

[didymos1120]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

I think Sovereign (and I might be wrong it's been a while since I played ME1) said: "We have no beginning. We have no end. We simply are."

Which is clearly nonsense, unless the Reapers are older than the universe itself.

[Jo Dan 28]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Jo Dan 28 wrote...

I have been more curious about what mr. walters means by "effecient design" for their purpose. Does he just mean the ability to have protective armor and multiple appendages (sp?) as weaponry. And if it is a "design", who designs it? In other words, this is a chicken or the egg question.

I think Sovereign (and I might be wrong it's been a while since I played ME1) said: "We have no beginning. We have no end. We simply are."

I actually just finished a run through and yes Sovereign does say that but unless we submit to m-theory/hyper-dimmensional space or religious arguments, everything has a beginning.

[AngelicMachinery]

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

Jo Dan 28 wrote...

I have been more curious about what mr. walters means by "effecient design" for their purpose. Does he just mean the ability to have protective armor and multiple appendages (sp?) as weaponry. And if it is a "design", who designs it? In other words, this is a chicken or the egg question.

I think Sovereign (and I might be wrong it's been a while since I played ME1) said: "We have no beginning. We have no end. We simply are."

Yea,  but, this can't be right...  something has to create machines.  They're not accidetal...  they're far more complex that fleshy things.

[ObserverStatus]

I guess that makes sense, not every intelligent race they've reaped could have looked like squids cuttlefish and human head lice.

[didymos1120]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Yea,  but, this can't be right...  something has to create machines.  They're not accidetal...  they're far more complex that fleshy things.

Actually, it's their relative simplicity that tends to mark them out as artifacts.

[Cyberstrike nTo]

bobobo878 wrote...

I guess that makes sense, not every intelligent race they've reaped could have looked like squids cuttlefish and human head lice.

They reminded me more of a robotic squid that Hot Rod shoots in the eye in a secene from in Transformers: The Movie (the 1986 animated one)  and the geth ships remind me of insects.

Modifié par Cyberstrike nTo, 27 avril 2011 - 08:18 .

[Phaedon]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I thought it was rather self-explanatory from the beginning, but it's nice to see a confirmation.

Also, EDI-explanatory.

[JKoopman]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

JKoopman wrote...


So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...?

It doesn't have to be a little human, it's the shape of the race that it was born from.

Humanoid. Presently, the only species in Mass Effect that are not humanoid (bipedal, two arms, two legs, a "face") are the Hanar, the Rachni and the Keepers, whereas there are 10+ known species that share the same basic bipedal form. If that ratio holds true throughout the extinction cycle, we'd be looking at a significant percentage of Reapers having little metal "men" inside them.

[ItsFreakinJesus]

It wasn't much of a theory seeing as the Mass Effect 2 artwork showed as much. It was a fact that people neglected to pay attention to or simply chose to ignore.

[Phaedon]

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Yea,  but, this can't be right...  something has to create machines.  They're not accidetal...  they're far more complex that fleshy things.

Protoreapers seem as if they exist.

There are some husks in ME3 that are "human-batarian-reaper" hybrids.

[Fiery Phoenix]

Phaedon wrote...

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

I thought it was rather self-explanatory from the beginning, but it's nice to see a confirmation.

Also, EDI-explanatory.

EDI said she wasn't sure, though. She was merely speculating. But it was clear regardless.

[MajesticJazz]

didymos1120 wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...?

Still doesn't make sense to me.

If every Reaper resembles the species that it "reaped", then why do they ALL look like cuttlefish?

You might try reading the quote.

No sh!t

But that still leaves a "plot hole"

When I look at the concept art for the human reaper, it looks like this:




However EVERY OTHER reaper looks like this:

[Shepard Lives]

Phaedon wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Yea,  but, this can't be right...  something has to create machines.  They're not accidetal...  they're far more complex that fleshy things.

Protoreapers seem as if they exist.

There are some husks in ME3 that are "human-batarian-reaper" hybrids.

I really don't trust that quote.

I think they just meant that the Reapers grabbed a bunch of humans and batarians and fused 'em together, not that Cannibals or whatever their name is are actually part Reaper.

[Jo Dan 28]

MajesticJazz wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.

http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...?

Still doesn't make sense to me.

If every Reaper resembles the species that it "reaped", then why do they ALL look like cuttlefish?

You might try reading the quote.

No sh!t

But that still leaves a "plot hole"

When I look at the concept art for the human reaper, it looks like this:




However EVERY OTHER reaper looks like this:

I don't see what you are having trouble understanding. If the human reaper was finished, it would probably then get assembled into the reaper shell which seems to act as a form of battle armor as well has deindividualizes the group, making the reapers more mystery and more intimidating as a unified whole instead of single entities.