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So BioWare has officially confirmed the "Reaper Shell" theory?


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didymos1120 wrote...

MajesticJazz wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.


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So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...? :huh:


Still doesn't make sense to me.

If every Reaper resembles the species that it "reaped", then why do they ALL look like cuttlefish?


You might try reading the quote.


Not to mention that they don't all look like cuttlefish. Sovereign and Harbinger kind of do, but even they actually look quite different. Harbinger has 6 eyes, to begin with. A bunch of the otehr Reapers at teh end of ME2 have radically-different front-portions.

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They should read this.

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ItsFreakinJesus wrote...

It wasn't much of a theory seeing as the Mass Effect 2 artwork showed as much. It was a fact that people neglected to pay attention to or simply chose to ignore.


That was more a lucky misinterpretation.  That one drawing of the Reaper with a human-esque face wasn't supposed to be the "final form" of it.  It was actually a concept for the Human Reaper itself, as the text accompanying the art makes clear.  And if you happen to be thinking about the image where it has the little lines projected like it was a magnification of the hull and the little Human Reaper fit in there: that's not the original page.  It was altered significantly from this:

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Modifié par didymos1120, 27 avril 2011 - 08:37 .


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JKoopman wrote...

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.


http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...? :huh:


did you not play mass effect 1?

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They look like some Saturday morning cartoon enemies . at least the Borg were scary and imposing when they first introduced into Star Trek .

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Xaijin wrote...

did you not play mass effect 1?


Not sure why that matters, as that wouldn't have answered the question.

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I wonder if the reapers are deeply integrated into their ships/shells like Karen S'jet and the mothership, or if they just sit wired into the captains chair like the Space Jockey.

Probably the former I'd guess.

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Not all of them are the same size.

Reapers have different sizes, ranging from 500-600 meters of the smaller ships to the 2km for Harbinger.

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ExtremeOne wrote...

They look like some Saturday morning cartoon enemies . at least the Borg were scary and imposing when they first introduced into Star Trek .


Dont taunt the genocidal space cuttlefish

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MajesticJazz wrote...
No sh!t

But that still leaves a "plot hole"

When I look at the concept art for the human reaper, it looks like this:

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However EVERY OTHER reaper looks like this:

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Obviously the larva is inside the Reaper.

Modifié par Phaedon, 27 avril 2011 - 08:52 .


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100m < 2000m

Yea, it's that complicated.

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kinda boring for the reapers

would've been more interesting if there was no shell... literally every reaper looked liked the species it was made from, but i guess they had to answer for making a dumb looking terminator final boss

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MajesticJazz wrote...

No sh!t

But that still leaves a "plot hole"

When I look at the concept art for the human reaper, it looks like this:

*snip*


That's not the original concept art.  Someone added those lengths and the little lines and whatnot.  The supposedly 2km long one was just another discarded concept for the Larva.  It's not a concept of the "adult" form.

Modifié par didymos1120, 27 avril 2011 - 08:58 .


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88mphSlayer wrote...

kinda boring for the reapers

would've been more interesting if there was no shell... literally every reaper looked liked the species it was made from, but i guess they had to answer for making a dumb looking terminator final boss


Social psych says otherwise, but that's your opinion. Things are much more frightening when they all look the same. That's why cults such as the ever popular KKK wore similar outfits and covered their faces. Makes them unkown and unrelateable, which is the design for the reapers

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JKoopman wrote...

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.


http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...? :huh:


You're misinterpreting his terrible explanaition. It is as the game presented...

The reaper takes on the likeness of the species it was made from.  That does not mean there is living critters inside.

Modifié par Mynoot, 27 avril 2011 - 09:05 .


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I dont really like this answer or explanation... But i think i am okey with it..... Fine... But i dont like the idea of a 200 meter tall robotic creature running around inside a 2000 meter long Reaper shell... It's weird..

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Mynoot wrote...
You're misinterpreting his terrible explanaition. It is as the game presented...

The reaper takes on the likeness of the species it was made from.  That does not mean there is living critters inside.


No you misinterpreted the OP.  Notice how "man" was in quotes?  You also seem to have misinterpreted the explanation: the core of the Reaper resembles the species, and it's effectively the "brain".  The vastly larger exterior does not.  That will follow the general "cuttlefish" pattern no matter which species was used.

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Mynoot wrote...

JKoopman wrote...

From the Q&A:

Why do most of the Reapers we’ve seen so far have similar insect-like appearances? The human Reaper looked different, but otherwise it seems like the Reapers mainly build themselves out of bugs. Is that correct?
The exterior of the Reapers does follow a similar pattern, an efficient design for the purpose they were created for. However each Reaper is created from a unique species, and as we saw at the end of Mass Effect 2, the core of each Reaper is designed in the likeness of that species.


http://www.gameinfor...dcore-fans.aspx

So apparently every Reaper has a little "man" inside...? :huh:


You're misinterpreting his terrible explanaition. It is as the game presented...

The reaper takes on the likeness of the species it was made from.  That does not mean there is living critters inside.


Terrible explanation? It explains quite clearly why all Reapers look similar on the outside, but why the Reaper-Larvae looked like a human. There is nothing else needed. We don't need an explanation of why because they're probably saving that for ME3. Just because its Mac Walters doesn't instantly make it terrible.

EDIT: I read that wrong, I'm guessing you meant the OPs explanation? :unsure:

Modifié par candidate88766, 27 avril 2011 - 09:11 .


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Running around? I thought it's a core not a pilot or a hamster for that matter.

Modifié par Razagon, 27 avril 2011 - 09:10 .


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R3MUS wrote...

I dont really like this answer or explanation... But i think i am okey with it..... Fine... But i dont like the idea of a 200 meter tall robotic creature running around inside a 2000 meter long Reaper shell... It's weird..


I prefer to think of it like a mech outfit. Surely you are familiar with mechwarriors. The only difference is that the reaper version is much bigger

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R3MUS wrote...

I dont really like this answer or explanation... But i think i am okey with it..... Fine... But i dont like the idea of a 200 meter tall robotic creature running around inside a 2000 meter long Reaper shell... It's weird..


Who said it was "running around"?  It's just inside that shell. 

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I think a lot of people here don't understand what a "core" means.

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didymos1120 wrote...

R3MUS wrote...

I dont really like this answer or explanation... But i think i am okey with it..... Fine... But i dont like the idea of a 200 meter tall robotic creature running around inside a 2000 meter long Reaper shell... It's weird..


Who said it was "running around"?  It's just inside that shell. 

Nobody, which is why he had to supply the details himself! Bioware is awful at their job!

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EDIT: I read that wrong, I'm guessing you meant the OPs explanation? :unsure:


No, I did misinterpret. I'm thinking I understand now. I don't put much thought into game "literature" simply because it's pulp fiction.

Modifié par Mynoot, 27 avril 2011 - 09:25 .


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You know.. I would have tolerated the end boss fight more if this was more specificly implied during the fight/revealing.

Shepard: EDI, what the hell am I looking at - this looks nothing like a reaper we've seen.
EDI: Shepard, after scanning the Collectors Database, I've determined that this is the core - the living "soul" in sense, of a reaper.  On completion, a battle shell would then be build around this contruct.


Maybe they do say it.. but my brain goes to to epileptic seizures when ever I get to that point of the game.

Modifié par Murmillos, 27 avril 2011 - 09:59 .