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[Mersey]

It would be boss to catch one and have Mordin dissect it!

[the-expatriate]

Murmillos wrote...

You know.. I would have tolerated the end boss fight more if this was more specificly implied during the fight/revealing.

Shepard: EDI, what the hell am I looking at - this looks nothing like a reaper we've seen.
EDI: Shepard, after scanning the Collectors Database, I've determined that this is the core - the living "soul" in sense, of a reaper.  On completion, a battle shell would then be build around this contruct.


Maybe they do say it.. but my brain goes to to epileptic seizures when ever I get to that point of the game.

Understandable. I too found the end boss disappointingly cheesy, if that's what you mean. If only they had explained it better within in-game lore, the event would have had more impact instead of eliciting the reaction: "the boss is a giant overgrown terminator? wtf? ME1 was SO much better than this"

Again, the fault is in the communication I think, not the actual lore itself

[Xaijin]

didymos1120 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

did you not play mass effect 1?

Not sure why that matters, as that wouldn't have answered the question.

Frog saren perfectly answers the question unless you're a mouth breathing idiot. Not everything needs a cardboard sign next to it, telling what it is.

[AngelicMachinery]

Xaijin wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

did you not play mass effect 1?

Not sure why that matters, as that wouldn't have answered the question.

Frog saren perfectly answers the question unless you're a mouth breathing idiot. Not everything needs a cardboard sign next to it, telling what it is.

I'm not seeing it,  just seemed to be a husk varient to me.

[didymos1120]

Xaijin wrote...

Frog saren perfectly answers the question unless you're a mouth breathing idiot. Not everything needs a cardboard sign next to it, telling what it is.

Uh, no he doesn't.  He's a Reaper avatar, which is completely different from being a Reaper core. And no, his pre-frogging "I am a vision of the future" spiel doesn't tell us what lurks inside Reapers either (it's a vague hint at best).  It seems those cardboard signs are necessary after all.

Modifié par didymos1120, 27 avril 2011 - 10:54 .

[Darkhour]

didymos1120 wrote...

Cyberstrike nTo wrote...

I think Sovereign (and I might be wrong it's been a while since I played ME1) said: "We have no beginning. We have no end. We simply are."

Which is clearly nonsense, unless the Reapers are older than the universe itself.

I think they are referring to their collective spirit.

Anyone can could say, "I existed always", just not always as John Doe, but their spirit has always been. There is definitely a spiritual side to the Reapers.  Legion said that the consciousnesses within Soveriegn were not AI programs and they fact that a reaper can control the Rachni mentally, without any tech, by yelling over the "astral plane" (i.e higher dimension). I assume that's what the Queen would refers to as "high places" as opposed to our speech in "low places" (physical reality).

[aimlessgun]

didymos1120 wrote...

Xaijin wrote...

Frog saren perfectly answers the question unless you're a mouth breathing idiot. Not everything needs a cardboard sign next to it, telling what it is.

Uh, no he doesn't.  He's a Reaper avatar, which is completely different from being a Reaper core. And no, his pre-frogging "I am a vision of the future" spiel doesn't tell us what lurks inside Reapers either (it's a vague hint at best).  It seems those cardboard signs are necessary after all.

^What didymos said.

[didymos1120]

Darkhour wrote...

Legion said that the consciousnesses within Soveriegn were not AI programs and they fact that a reaper can control the Rachni mentally, without any tech, by yelling over the "astral plane" (i.e higher dimension).

They did use tech on the rachni: indoctrination. The queen just puts things strangely. Also, Legion did say they were programs: "Nazara. That was what the programs within the Reaper called themselves."

[Razagon]

the-expatriate wrote...

Murmillos wrote...

You know.. I would have tolerated the end boss fight more if this was more specificly implied during the fight/revealing.

Shepard: EDI, what the hell am I looking at - this looks nothing like a reaper we've seen.
EDI: Shepard, after scanning the Collectors Database, I've determined that this is the core - the living "soul" in sense, of a reaper.  On completion, a battle shell would then be build around this contruct.


Maybe they do say it.. but my brain goes to to epileptic seizures when ever I get to that point of the game.

Understandable. I too found the end boss disappointingly cheesy, if that's what you mean. If only they had explained it better within in-game lore, the event would have had more impact instead of eliciting the reaction: "the boss is a giant overgrown terminator? wtf? ME1 was SO much better than this"

Again, the fault is in the communication I think, not the actual lore itself

"It's a human equivalent of embryo. How many people do they still need? Possibly millions."

Was pretty clear to me. Unless you don't know what exactly embryo is, but have only a rough image.

[Ahglock]

Razagon wrote...

I think a lot of people here don't understand what a "core" means.

I know the core idea of a human slurpy turning itno a 200 meter terminator which then gets encased in reaper suits is really, really lame.  

[R3MUS]

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Legion said that the consciousnesses within Soveriegn were not AI programs and they fact that a reaper can control the Rachni mentally, without any tech, by yelling over the "astral plane" (i.e higher dimension).

They did use tech on the rachni: indoctrination. The queen just puts things strangely. Also, Legion did say they were programs: "Nazara. That was what the programs within the Reaper called themselves."

Talking about Nazara, why does Sovereign have 2 names? One is Nazara for the Geth, the other Sovereign for the Humans.

It's weird. Maybe Nazara means something in "Gethic"?

[Ahglock]

Razagon wrote...

the-expatriate wrote...

Murmillos wrote...

You know.. I would have tolerated the end boss fight more if this was more specificly implied during the fight/revealing.

Shepard: EDI, what the hell am I looking at - this looks nothing like a reaper we've seen.
EDI: Shepard, after scanning the Collectors Database, I've determined that this is the core - the living "soul" in sense, of a reaper.  On completion, a battle shell would then be build around this contruct.


Maybe they do say it.. but my brain goes to to epileptic seizures when ever I get to that point of the game.

Understandable. I too found the end boss disappointingly cheesy, if that's what you mean. If only they had explained it better within in-game lore, the event would have had more impact instead of eliciting the reaction: "the boss is a giant overgrown terminator? wtf? ME1 was SO much better than this"

Again, the fault is in the communication I think, not the actual lore itself

"It's a human equivalent of embryo. How many people do they still need? Possibly millions."

Was pretty clear to me. Unless you don't know what exactly embryo is, but have only a rough image.

I think thney meant explanation up to that point.  Something that would make it so when you got to that point you said OH, I get it cool, not WTF who thought this crap up?  

[Razagon]

Nazara is what he called himself among the Geth. Sovereign was just a name Saren came up with to show his power.

[Anacronian Stryx]

R3MUS wrote...

didymos1120 wrote...

Darkhour wrote...

Legion said that the consciousnesses within Soveriegn were not AI programs and they fact that a reaper can control the Rachni mentally, without any tech, by yelling over the "astral plane" (i.e higher dimension).

They did use tech on the rachni: indoctrination. The queen just puts things strangely. Also, Legion did say they were programs: "Nazara. That was what the programs within the Reaper called themselves."

Talking about Nazara, why does Sovereign have 2 names? One is Nazara for the Geth, the other Sovereign for the Humans.

It's weird. Maybe Nazara means something in "Gethic"?

Nazara is the real name of the reaper, Saren just called it Sovereign.
It's actually explained by Legion in the game.

[R3MUS]

Razagon wrote...

Nazara is what he called himself among the Geth. Sovereign was just a name Saren came up with to show his power.

So Nazara is it's real name? What the Reapers call themselves? One name/word from their Reaper language?

[didymos1120]

Razagon wrote...

Nazara is what he called himself among the Geth. Sovereign was just a name Saren came up with to show his power.

Legion just assumed it was Saren, as he had no way of knowing otherwise.  In Revelation, we learn that Saren actually got the name from the people who originally discovered it, and decided to keep using it.

[Anacronian Stryx]

R3MUS wrote...

Razagon wrote...

Nazara is what he called himself among the Geth. Sovereign was just a name Saren came up with to show his power.

So Nazara is it's real name? What the Reapers call themselves? One name/word from their Reaper language?

1.Yes.
2.No.
3.Nobody knows.

[BeardedNinja]

R3MUS wrote...

Razagon wrote...

Nazara is what he called himself among the Geth. Sovereign was just a name Saren came up with to show his power.

So Nazara is it's real name? What the Reapers call themselves? One name/word from their Reaper language?

That was his individual name 

[didymos1120]

R3MUS wrote...

Razagon wrote...

Nazara is what he called himself among the Geth. Sovereign was just a name Saren came up with to show his power.

So Nazara is it's real name? What the Reapers call themselves? One name/word from their Reaper language?

No, just Sovereign. As Legion said: "Nazara. That was what the programs within the Reaper called themselves. "

A common speculation is that "Nazara" was the name of the species that was turned into Sovereign.

Modifié par didymos1120, 27 avril 2011 - 11:41 .

[Razagon]

R3MUS wrote...

Razagon wrote...

Nazara is what he called himself among the Geth. Sovereign was just a name Saren came up with to show his power.

So Nazara is it's real name? What the Reapers call themselves? One name/word from their Reaper language?

I'm not sure what you're asking me here. If Reapers have their own IDs? Possibly, I don't know. Geth comunicate differently than organics. Identity of Reapers will be explored in ME3. If you're asking what Reapers call their race, I'm pretty sure that Sovereign says that the Reapers is the name Protheans gave them. They simply are.

[Murmillos]

Razagon wrote...

the-expatriate wrote...

Murmillos wrote...

You know.. I would have tolerated the end boss fight more if this was more specificly implied during the fight/revealing.

Shepard: EDI, what the hell am I looking at - this looks nothing like a reaper we've seen.
EDI: Shepard, after scanning the Collectors Database, I've determined that this is the core - the living "soul" in sense, of a reaper.  On completion, a battle shell would then be build around this contruct.


Maybe they do say it.. but my brain goes to to epileptic seizures when ever I get to that point of the game.

Understandable. I too found the end boss disappointingly cheesy, if that's what you mean. If only they had explained it better within in-game lore, the event would have had more impact instead of eliciting the reaction: "the boss is a giant overgrown terminator? wtf? ME1 was SO much better than this"

Again, the fault is in the communication I think, not the actual lore itself

"It's a human equivalent of embryo. How many people do they still need? Possibly millions."

Was pretty clear to me. Unless you don't know what exactly embryo is, but have only a rough image.

But see, using the term embryo suggests that this "reaper" will grow into a full sized growing human looking reaper.  A 600 meter tall "terminator" flying thru space. Thats what made people go "WTF - this is bull****!"

Nothing was indicated that this was only the "heart/core/soul/creamy-nougat-center" of a full grown reaper dreadnought ship.

[Razagon]

LOL. Machines don't grow. It's a metaphor. The embryo is the 3rd stage of the new life. It's the first stage where you see beginning of shaping although no organs are shaped. Organs like the skin, bones and muscles if you see what I mean.

Just in case if someone still doesn't get it. No exoskeleton.

Modifié par Razagon, 27 avril 2011 - 11:52 .

[Someone With Mass]

didymos1120 wrote...

No, just Sovereign. As Legion said: "Nazara. That was what the programs within the Reaper called themselves. "

A common speculation is that "Nazara" was the name of the species that was turned into Sovereign.

"Nazara" also means "into" in Turkish. 

[rubyreader]

88mphSlayer wrote...

kinda boring for the reapers

would've been more interesting if there was no shell... literally every reaper looked liked the species it was made from, but i guess they had to answer for making a dumb looking terminator final boss

 Seeing a bunch of humanoid starships flying around is just a little too bizarre.

[Anacronian Stryx]

rubyreader wrote...

88mphSlayer wrote...

kinda boring for the reapers

would've been more interesting if there was no shell... literally every reaper looked liked the species it was made from, but i guess they had to answer for making a dumb looking terminator final boss

 Seeing a bunch of humanoid starships flying around is just a little too bizarre.

Yeah..but just imagine Elcor reapers..that would be awesome.

But then again Volus reapers would be....naw i just defeated my own point..damnation!