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[veramis]

If they release a toolset many of the issues can be fixed. The first thing I'd do is make a mod called 101 ways to kill Anders. And of course if you kill Anders he won't be able to do any more stupid things. I think the reason why they don't release a toolset is because David Gaider knows I plan on killing his twilight romance fantasy Anders, 50 different ways in act 1 and 51 different ways in act 2, and he can't stand the thought of da2's story being any other way than his . Just for him I'll make a mod called Finish off Leliana once and for all.

[maladictor2009]

As long as they can sell items for money you wont be seeing a toolset. Welcome the the EA machine.

[chart4ever]

I wonder why don't they sell the ToolSet as an DLC. I don't think it would be such a bad idea.

[maladictor2009]

chart4ever wrote...

I wonder why don't they sell the ToolSet as an DLC. I don't think it would be such a bad idea.

Dont you think a toolset would invalidate some of those items dlc's ? 

[chart4ever]

Who cares?

[maladictor2009]

I would think EA cares.....alot.

[bjdbwea]

chart4ever wrote...

I wonder why don't they sell the ToolSet as an DLC. I don't think it would be such a bad idea.

That idea still has the problem that the user-created content would be available free of charge to anyone, which potentially means less incentive for players to buy DLCs. EA would probably only allow the release of a toolset if they could somehow charge money for every download of user-created content, but that's technically quite different to achieve, and the technology would have needed to have been implemented in DA 2 from the beginning.

But who knows, with all the recent incentives to somehow increase the sales numbers of DA 2, maybe someone at BioWare/EA will figure out after all that a toolset always makes a game more appealing, not in the least because the community can fix the bugs and shortcomings of the game that the developers had not the time or willingness to fix.

Modifié par bjdbwea, 27 avril 2011 - 02:07 .

[chart4ever]

Ok Ok I get the point. Still Origins had a Toolset AND DLC's. 
Also I would understand this if DA2 would be at least as good as Mass Effect.

Did you saw some of the NPC's faces? Not speaking about the "map deficiency".

Modifié par chart4ever, 27 avril 2011 - 02:10 .

[Edhriano]

chart4ever wrote...

I wonder why don't they sell the ToolSet as an DLC. I don't think it would be such a bad idea.

Just wondering hypothetically of course , how much are you
willing to spend on toolset DLC?

 $ 10 ? , $ 20 ? …. $ 60 ? hypothetically of course.

[ToJKa1]

This "no toolset to sell DLCs" seems pretty backwards reasoning to me, Bethesda's games have the construction set available from release (though it took a little while for Fallout 3). The modding community keeps people playing the game longer and thus more likely to buy the DLC. Though it also helps that they release substansial DLCs (please, do not bring up Horse Armor, that was long ago and has not been repeated since).

Then again i saw very few mods worth downloading for Origins, so that might not work for BioWare.

[chart4ever]

Edhriano wrote...

chart4ever wrote...

I wonder why don't they sell the ToolSet as an DLC. I don't think it would be such a bad idea.

Just wondering hypothetically of course , how much are you
willing to spend on toolset DLC?

 $ 10 ? , $ 20 ? …. $ 60 ? hypothetically of course.

Nothing

Did I say anywhere that I know how to make mods?

But I bet there are ppl willing to pay some cash to "improve" this game. True franchise fans.

Modifié par chart4ever, 27 avril 2011 - 02:23 .

[veramis]

They should release the toolset for free and be thankful as hell that people are willing to fix the game for them. It really bugs me that people are trying to fix DA2 and give it more replay value, and that bioware might not want to release a toolset because "it's not profitable". If bioware knows what's good for them they will release a toolset, but judging by the past year I get the feeling they are as confused as bees suffering from CCD.

[GGRush]

bjdbwea wrote...

Providing a toolset costs money, so providing it for free makes EA lose money.

More importantly, they probably figure that a toolset would reduce the amount of DLCs that they can sell. While the recent Fallout games for example prove that good DLCs can still sell very well, it's probably true that a toolset reduces the amount of sales for the low-quality and short DLCs that BioWare usually creates. And especially DLCs like "appearance packs" or item packs would almost certainly be ignored at least by many PC gamers.

Furthermore, a toolset makes the PC version even more attractive, but they apparently want people to rather buy their games for consoles.

I actually wonder what it takes to make a user-friendly toolset that can make item packs and re-textures.
There are re-textures and item packs everywhere on nexus now w/o a toolset.

[catofnine]

chart4ever wrote...

I wonder why don't they sell the ToolSet as an DLC. I don't think it would be such a bad idea.

I'd pay $15-20 for an updated toolset that handles Awakening *and* DA2 properly, but I doubt that will ever happen.   I want to be wrong here, but given the kind of "Rush to Maeking Munnay" EA/Bioware has been exhibiting I don't see them throwing extra labor hours into something that only a smaller percentage of DA series owners would actually use.   It would be more profitable for them to churn out more superficial stuff like item packs and middling story dlc instead.  There is a much wider audience for those things than a toolset.

However, not asking for something is always an automatic "no" in my book so /signed on this petition and others like it.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Pay for a toolset? Goodness me.

Sure has come a long way since Neverwinter Nights...

[Woodstock-TC]

rayvioletta wrote...

I've said it before but it's still just as true. DA2 NEEDS a toolset
DA2 suffers from being rushed
a rushed game cannot be fixed by rushed DLC or a rushed expansion
but if BioWare take the time to make quality content, by then most gamers will have already uninstalled and moved on
best way to retain interest while they work on fixing the mess is to give the community a toolset to play with

this. love parts of da2, but some were rushed.  toolset would allow community help and expansions
+1

[Kajan451]

I would want one, but it won't happen.

Who would be paying for an Item Pack DLC if they could download an abundance of Weapons and Armor from Modsites.

And just imagine the embrassment if people with a Toolset would actually fix this game with unofficial patches, making the imports working properly and such. I mean even without it, they seem to have managed to find a workaround for some of the Import Savefile problems, while there is still no sight of any kind of attempt to fix it from Bioware themselves.

So at the end of the day, yes a Toolset would be nice, but then people would actually start doing Biowares Job, and being most likely faster and better about it. And we can't have that, can we?

Not when there are DLC Itempacks to be sold.

[TheButterflyEffect]

If they make the toolset not free I promise I'll pay for it. No Jack Sparrows or nothing here. I want it so bad.

[v_ware]

Signed.

[andraip]

Toolset ftw.

[daemon1129]

What a company like EA never sees is the potential profit from allowing mods or any kind of community based activities that involve a game. If you allow a strong community to grow, to actually happen, most of them if not all would gladly buy the next game from the series. You don't need an amazing game for that. I think it is silly to think you must make this much money at the first month or the game is a failure. If you actually make an expansion or even some kind of DLC that actually improves or fix the game, people would buy them. A big company should not be looking to grab a quick few bucks, they need to aim bigger than that.

If they release a toolset and the modders improves the game to what it should have been, I would preorder DA3. But now I am still ****** at this game.

[Persephone]

Kajan451 wrote...

I would want one, but it won't happen.

Who would be paying for an Item Pack DLC if they could download an abundance of Weapons and Armor from Modsites.

Nexus already offers plenty of them. Without a toolset.:innocent:

Edit: Yes, I'm willing to beg and pray for a toolset. But not for Item packs. I'd rather have modders like the fabulous Ejoslin working her magic through the toolset.

Modifié par Persephone, 27 avril 2011 - 04:35 .

[TheButterflyEffect]

jojjo weapons. For the win.

[0x30A88]

Bioware needs to work on their reputation, and a toolset is at least the first step towards their roots. Next would be to disconnect buʔon and "awesome" -- as it gets boring and repetitive fast.

User made campaigns would also prolong the lifetime, thus Bioware can release more DLCs.

...and I want to make my sword model into DA2.... (dl.dropbox.com/u/1564029/finally.png)

Modifié par Gisle Aune, 27 avril 2011 - 05:58 .

[Venefica]

/signed