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[brazen_nl]

mr_afk wrote...

Yeahh I know what you mean. I'm running around seeing what I can chuck my new setup against. I preferably want ones with large numbers of enemies because that's where my setup really shines. It's good against smaller numbers as well but it's just so much more boring (not video worthy).

Looking forward to your Evelina part 2 vid then. That might be just what you're looking for. The fight isn't hard, it's just crap to show a consistent way of doing it cleanly. Your setup might be just what I'm looking for!

Also, I don't mind post-fight voice comments. 

[AreleX]

Anybody know if Isabela's Savvy can make her break the 80% defense cap?

I'm sitting here trying to make her not suck.

[Jack-Nader]

Ok I found a varnell save... I didn't have the dlc when I played this fight last time. The DLC is going to make this fight ridiculously easy. Are you using the DLC? Do you want scrape together a DLC run or ditch the DLC and use stock gear?

[Jack-Nader]

Arelex... All you have to do to make her not suck is giver he a no knockback item and boost her health. She can tank fine if you do that. Don't give her cunning points, pile everything into dexterity.

[brazen_nl]

mr_afk wrote...

(btw, out of interest, around about what time did you get for the Varnell (offered and lost) fight? I'm trying to figure out if ~1:25 is good. Arelex's video of it was around 2:11 but I'm pretty sure he was using a cold staff (which they were all immune to) and wasn't trying to speed run it (though I wasn't either really). Trying to figure out if my build/party setup is actually really good or my old one was just crappy.
edit: Actually seems he was using cold spells not staves. Memory must have lied to me.

Now that's just rude! 

Blatently stolen.

Modifié par brazen_nl, 04 mai 2011 - 04:55 .

[AreleX]

Isabela is an issue of 'why walk, when you can drive'?

You CAN make her okay, but why settle for okay, when there are better companions you could be using instead?

[mr_afk]

Jack-Nader wrote...

Ok I found a varnell save... I didn't have the dlc when I played this fight last time. The DLC is going to make this fight ridiculously easy. Are you using the DLC? Do you want scrape together a DLC run or ditch the DLC and use stock gear?

what? no dlc? nooo I didn't sign up for this!
Haha I'm using the dlc but not too much during that fight. Just my robes and staff (of pure awesome) and the companion rings/amulets. Well, I suppose Aveline is also using that spirit cleaver-looking thing.

But yeah, it wasn't that I was going for a speed run. The varnell fight was probably one of the tougher fights with my old setup so when it all ended really fast I was a little confused. I didn't even play very well - had random pauses where I tried to aim my circles right and missed my first walking bomb.
If we're going to make this into a competition then perhaps I should redo it 

brazen_nl wrote...

Now that's just rude! 

Blatently stolen.

Haha what? 

Also, I'll consider voice-overing it. But that would mean that I would have to insert all kinds of pauses....
Maybe I'll make two versions.

Edit: I'm still in act 2 (and moving really slowly through it due to the number of different build approaches I try before reverting back to older saves). Once I get to act 3 maybe i'll do evelina - the fight that is.

Modifié par mr_afk, 04 mai 2011 - 05:25 .

[Jack-Nader]

Problem solved then!

[Jack-Nader]

OK DLC gear is permitted. I will use my ultra lame tactics for a speed run.  I'll be using the same ranged party + hawke rogue.

*Ok frapsed a video of it.  Time with DLC gear = 56 seconds.  I dare say it would be possible to get sub 50 seconds.

*crap I forgot to record stats

Modifié par Jack-Nader, 04 mai 2011 - 05:47 .

[brazen_nl]

mr_afk wrote...

brazen_nl wrote...

Now that's just rude! 

Blatently stolen.

Haha what? 

Also, I'll consider voice-overing it. But that would mean that I would have to insert all kinds of pauses....
Maybe I'll make two versions.

Edit: I'm still in act 2 (and moving really slowly through it due to the number of different build approaches I try before reverting back to older saves). Once I get to act 3 maybe i'll do evelina - the fight that is.

Did you see that Varnell fight (first link). Ridiculous ....

Pausing is really easy on the PC, but also takes the fun out of it. I'm guessing you're on console? I do it all live so it's easy. If I had to edit all that it would bore me to death, I'm sure.

[brazen_nl]

AreleX wrote...

Anybody know if Isabela's Savvy can make her break the 80% defense cap?

I'm sitting here trying to make her not suck.

You're a better man than I am.

:innocent:

[mr_afk]

Jack-Nader wrote...

OK DLC gear is permitted. I will use my ultra lame tactics for a speed run.  I'll be using the same ranged party + hawke rogue.

*Ok frapsed a video of it.  Time with DLC gear = 56 seconds.  I dare say it would be possible to get sub 50 seconds.

*crap I forgot to record stats

FML. Looks like i'll have to do it again. Luckily there's an autosave just before it.
Are you counting pauses? Because if I want to do CCCs properly (set them up so they actually are there when I want them to) I'll have to micro, and on consoles that requires heaps of switching around = time spent paused.

Gahh, why did I bother to challenge you of all people.<_< haha

and you don't need to show stats for my benefit. I'm happy to trust that everything is legit. Will be interesting to see what your setup is though.

brazen_nl wrote...
Did you see that Varnell fight (first link). Ridiculous ....

Pausing is really easy on the PC, but also takes the fun out of it. I'm guessing you're on console? I do it all live so it's easy. If I had to edit all that it would bore me to death, I'm sure.

Haha all IN1's fights are ridiculous!
But yeah, i'm on xbox - and I don't even have a fancy fuzzy recording setup like Arelex!
I'm currently just using my camera to video the screen - but since the sound is so **** and I usually use headphones anyway I generally just edit out all the sound and put in music instead. So potentially via some video editing and some voice overs after I could do it but yeah, major effort.
Plus I just want to prove I'm almost as awesome as Jack-Nader anyway 

Modifié par mr_afk, 04 mai 2011 - 05:57 .

[Jack-Nader]

I don't pause anymore.

[mr_afk]

Well aren't you cool
Okay, i'll have a go at beating 56 seconds.
It's pretty hard for a mage hawke because the only method to kill Varnell fast is to stack on the CCCs. (can't just assassinate him from the start). Ahh should make a good video demonstration anyway so i'll give it a shot.

[Jack-Nader]

It's not that its cool or not to pause. It's that I deliberately had to force myself to not use it as it ruins the flow of videos. I agree that it should take longer without assassinate.

[brazen_nl]

mr_afk wrote...
But yeah, i'm on xbox - and I don't even have a fancy fuzzy recording setup like Arelex!
I'm currently just using my camera to video the screen - but since the sound is so **** and I usually use headphones anyway I generally just edit out all the sound and put in music instead. So potentially via some video editing and some voice overs after I could do it but yeah, major effort.

I can't imagine it would look worse than AreleX' efforts.

/me runs.

In all seriousness, like you said, it sounds like major effort. So if you can't break JN's record, we're not ever going to see your gameplay? I mean? NEVAH??? I love Xbox gameplay, no messing around with targeting is beeyoutiful.

mr_afk wrote...

Plus I just want to prove I'm almost as awesome as Jack-Nader anyway [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Good luck with that. 

[AreleX]

haters gonna hate

[brazen_nl]

Jack-Nader wrote...

It's not that its cool or not to pause. It's that I deliberately had to force myself to not use it as it ruins the flow of videos. I agree that it should take longer without assassinate.

Very much agreed. Also, it's way more fun to play that way. That's why I hate micro-managing. For a tutorial video, I couldn't do it any other way, though, as I wouldn't be able to talk as fast as the computer executes the combo's.

[mr_afk]

AreleX wrote...

haters gonna hate

Haha don't worry, the fuzziness adds.....character. 
Seriously though, your videos don't even need fancy HD-I'm-on-a-pc recording to look awesome.

brazen_nl wrote...

In all seriousness, like you said, it sounds like major effort. So if you can't break JN's record, we're not ever going to see your gameplay? I mean? NEVAH??? I love Xbox gameplay, no messing around with targeting is beeyoutiful. 

Haha don't worry, you'll see some videos. But probably with me disguising my shoddy times by making it a 'compliation'. Most of the videos are for my thread - trying to demonstrate that my crit-mage concept and idea is a viable and worthy build to consider. Basically i'm mucking around with physical and spirit spells instead of dropping fireturds on people. I've got some early act 2 videos up on my thread but theyre pretty terrible.

However, I'll see if I can beat Jack-Nader...Never know. Maybe this time he'll be the one feeling insecure about his fancy rogue hawke setup hmph! 

Modifié par mr_afk, 04 mai 2011 - 06:12 .

[brazen_nl]

mr_afk wrote...

AreleX wrote...

haters gonna hate

Haha don't worry, the fuzziness adds.....character. 
Seriously though, your videos don't even need fancy HD-I'm-on-a-pc recording to look awesome.

Yes, they do! 

[Jack-Nader]

I redid it with stats. I'll upload in a bit.

[mr_afk]

well bad news for you, i've discovered a way to kill varnell really fast. killed him in ~10-15seconds before accidentally maker fisting one of my companions.. So hopefully if I don't screw anything up this time I should be able to beat the 50 bench mark.
never understood why it does such **** damage against enemies yet kills companions so effectively. must be the ignore armour property but still!


update: Bugger!! 1:15 - no way near
It's all those critters. I know, maybe the pull of the abyss will have cooldowned in that time so I can gather them up to do another CCC.

Modifié par mr_afk, 04 mai 2011 - 06:45 .

[Jack-Nader]

Huh?? I thought you meant completing the entire fight not just killing him. Geez.. I kill varnell almost instantly.

[mr_afk]

lol of course completing the whole fight!
He was the main reason why I couldn't finish it fast - because he would occupy one or two of my companions for ages. Figured it out though.

[Jack-Nader]

The ony thing I hate in that fight is all the wasted time legging it up and down the map. That's where ranged party helped bigtime.