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Mage Tutorial Video - Learn how to DOMINATE! Lesson 3 - Nexus Golem Super Gauntlet (w/ audio commentary) video added!


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#101
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SuicidialBaby wrote...

you guys do realise there are 2 separate stealth abilities at work? Both abilities do have cooldowns which are seperate as well as a clear skip tactics trigger when all allies are dead.


You sure about that? I've had Assassins backflip, stealth for no more than 5-10 seconds tops, stab, backflip again, more than once. I think it might've even happened in one of my vids (Brekker, maybe?).

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there are 2 stealths
1 is backflip requires a melee contact
second throws smoke under feet - used in open field.
If there is some shared CD between ? no idea.

Yet from what ive seen stealth for npc works this way - stealth animation - NPCs stop attacking target and cancel sheduled spells on target - there is also immunity during this. Then sin goes stealth where he sits for 2 sek ? after that he activies his backstab that is a shortrange teleport.
Its possible to outrun assasin - then he will lose stealth and chase you and when close enough he will teleport and backstab - we can belive it works same way when stealthed. First he will try to teleport to nearest target rather then running after a specific target.
I've seen also where backstab were broken after teleport but before the damage is dealth - he will chase and dead backstab damage on next contact.

As for CD stealth CD is as ppl say 5-10s - if its random or affinity - no idea. However the countdown starts as soon as he stealths so if he stays in stealth more then regular 2-3s (i belive he can stay stealthed for whole CD) then he can stealth right after backstabing.

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Black powder courtesy, bodyguards ambush of that dwarf after the cave. Play this directly after act I. This is a nightmare!

Also, even after intense study of your vid, I have not managed yet to drag an assassin out of stealth. I tried every spell, and sometimes the kinetic burst does it, but it is more luck than skill.

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there are 2 abilities:
Stealth, the flask being throw to the ground
Evade(enemy version), the backflip

both have seperate cooldowns, my guess would be 10 seconds on Stealth and 8 on Evade

most of the cooldown is burnt during stealth, the full backstab animation is at least 2 seconds

Modifié par SuicidialBaby, 28 avril 2011 - 08:24 .


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tonnactus wrote...

By the way: Is mindblast bugged? Gave merrill the upgraded version and that put my force mage with unshakable on the ass more then one time...


Its working correctly. If force applied is over 10% of your max health, you get knocked.

With a base damage of 30, upgraded Mind Blast is dealing the equivelent of 540 force. Unshakeable cuts 100 off, so you're still getting smacked for 440.

Modifié par rumination888, 28 avril 2011 - 09:34 .


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I added a new video that shows you how to play well with an all-ranged party (no tank). Once again, I picked some of the fights people seem to have the most trouble with, and pause to offer tips/advice throughout each one. Check it out!

Lesson 2 - No Tank? No Problem!

Enjoy!

:wizard:

Modifié par AreleX, 29 avril 2011 - 12:40 .


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AreleX wrote...

I added a new video that shows you how to play well with an all-ranged party (no tank). Once again, I picked some of the fights people seem to have the most trouble with, and pause to offer tips/advice throughout each one. Check it out!

Lesson 2 - No Tank? No Problem!

Enjoy!

:wizard:


Schmomination >>> domination. That's all I can say, really.

PS: Nice instructional video, besides.

PPS: Are you M or F? The font style you've chosen is definitely effeminate, haha!
/male chauvinist pig mode off

Modifié par IN1, 29 avril 2011 - 01:13 .


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AreleX wrote...

The song is Claudia Cazacu ft. Audrey Ghallager - Freefalling. I'm not sure why YT tagged it as Jon O'Callaghan (though I love him too), probably because a lot of 140bpm trance sounds similar.

I'll be uploading another tutorial sometime today.


How embarassing. Shows how long I was watching your video. But yeah, I recognised that song - and somehow equated it with big sky, but since that's actually quite different i'm not sure what's the deal there. Too much playing dragonage and not enough listening to music I guess.. 

And Nice tutorial. Only problem for me is that it seems to rely quite heavily on everyone having the right staves (and I haven't had any decent ice staff drops yet and cant be bothered spending money on them). No CCCs either. How can you have a video without people exploding in it...wait I just saw a walking bomb ahahhaa 

Anyway, I'm going to attempt some speed runs now. Hopefully it'll work out right then I can use some good music! Because it's all about the music! :)

Modifié par mr_afk, 29 avril 2011 - 01:24 .


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AreleX wrote...

I added a new video that shows you how to play well with an all-ranged party (no tank). Once again, I picked some of the fights people seem to have the most trouble with, and pause to offer tips/advice throughout each one. Check it out!

Lesson 2 - No Tank? No Problem!

Enjoy!

:wizard:


Excellent video.  Great to see that horrendous looking rock armor is finally gone.  What was Bioware thinking? :)

I recorded these two videos a while back.  Same fights/party as featured in your video but using a different approach.



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AreleX wrote...

I added a new video that shows you how to play well with an all-ranged party (no tank). Once again, I picked some of the fights people seem to have the most trouble with, and pause to offer tips/advice throughout each one. Check it out!

Lesson 2 - No Tank? No Problem!

Enjoy!

:wizard:


Great job on these tutorials.  Dog is a champ.  How well does Dog deal with walking bomb?

Jack- That was great walking bomb setup, what are your tactics for that?

Modifié par Irish Porkchopp, 29 avril 2011 - 03:00 .


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he goes *poof*

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Question: Is there an effective way to crowd control demons?With humanoid enemies its easy just use pull of abyss and gravitic ring. Demons are immune to this however. Most of the time i ended up retreating my party to choke points.

I hardly get much ussage out of cone of cold too most of the time party members is in the way. (Beside aveline or fenris i put rune of fortune on everyone. Stackable 10% money loot is just too good). Winter Blast when upgraded does small aoe that  are able to one shot anyone in your party. Seriously once the enemy get pass my tank and start attcking my ranged party (which happens ocassionally since enemy pop up in waves) theres nothing my hawke can do because of fear of FF.

When i put may party on HOLD the ranged member dont attack at all even though enemy is with in visible line of sight. I have to manually aim them using LI/L2 attack. Then Aveline starts going into melee range.. Is suppose it has to do with tactic, is should put Enemy: Target of hawke :Attack on all my ranged party member huh.

(And good to see Arelex's contributing more. My my those dlc items does look nice and mage's are the best of them all:wizard:)

Modifié par Ndutz, 29 avril 2011 - 04:02 .


#113
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grav works on demons, pull doesnt.

glyph of paralysis or lightning will cc demons well enough.
use WG from a 90 degree angle from where the melee is to avoid ff.
you can move and aim CoC so it doesnt hit anything but enemies.

if the enemy is in short range, a character with ranged behavior will attempt to move before doing anything else. While on hold this forces them to do nothing. Use Aggressive.
Some times open doorways will cause line of sight issues, no answer to this outside of a patch.

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I tried a whole evening to pull the assassins during the black powder courtesy quest out of stealth and I did not succeed, except for telekinetic burst. The latter caused him to come out of stealth, chase after a target and do backstab damage to him while being visible. I think I can safely say by now that the way it is shown in the video, it does not work for me here on PC.

Can somebody please clarify: To pull assassins out of stealth, you need to have the right timing. On top of that, your aoe spell must have a certain strength. Since I don´t manage to pull them out, I figure my spells are too weak. What can I do to improve the strength of my spells? Is it physical force or damage? 

Modifié par Kaylord, 29 avril 2011 - 08:24 .


#115
SuicidalBaby

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everything is based off magic stat and the base damage of the staff equipped.

#116
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You can always switch to rogue and stab them in the face. It's very rewarding beating them at their own game :)

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SuicidialBaby wrote...

he goes *poof*

Thought so.  Thanks.

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Jack-Nader wrote...

You can always switch to rogue and stab them in the face. It's very rewarding beating them at their own game :)


Yes.But a little luck is still required.They could decide to go stealth right when you want to assassinate them and then you have to wait for another 30 seconds...

Honestly,what stuff the game designers took when make enemy assassins the way they are now?

Modifié par tonnactus, 29 avril 2011 - 12:06 .


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I've come to warn you about MAN-GIRAFFE-DOG!! It's the single greatest threat to humanity!! RUN AWAY!!

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I'm still more Serial than ever guys.

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IN1 wrote...

Schmomination >>> domination. That's all I can say, really.

PS: Nice instructional video, besides.

PPS: Are you M or F? The font style you've chosen is definitely effeminate, haha!
/male chauvinist pig mode off


I hereby ban IN1 from all AreleX threads because he makes me look bad with his math and ridiculously strong shenanigan builds. I can't have people doing better than me! It's not allowed!

P.S - I'm a guy. I'm not entirely sure where the idea that I was a girl started, or with who, but I found it incredibly amusing (and telling, since I never said anything about it), so I never stopped to correct anyone.

Hear that? It's the sound of millions of hearts across the globe shattering into teeny little pieces.

And the font? Are you kidding me? Have you never walked by a trashy romance novel in the library or grocery store? Palace Script MS is the manliest font in the world, even manlier when you make it purple.

Modifié par AreleX, 29 avril 2011 - 01:56 .


#121
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A quick poll: How many of you guys reading
this thread have the DLC item pack? I was thinking that if enough people
did, I'd do some alternate builds to get the most out of the new stuff.

#122
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I never picked it up.. I'm waiting for some proper added content.

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AreleX wrote...

A quick poll: How many of you guys reading
this thread have the DLC item pack? I was thinking that if enough people
did, I'd do some alternate builds to get the most out of the new stuff.


Got it, love it.  My mage looks great in his new armor. 

#124
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2 things ... one your Merrill is using electricity staff during shepharding wolves
second...
fireball =/= fireball
"You are not my mother, ****" he said .. ><

@poll got the pack but i wouldnt build around it.

Modifié par Att3r0, 29 avril 2011 - 03:17 .


#125
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i wasn't paying attention and forgot, which is pretty much the story of my DA2 career.