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[Dagon]

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Modifié par Dagon_09, 09 mai 2011 - 04:01 .

[Scottish TaZeR]

I'm a Pure Renegade.... SO most things Die xD

[Dariustwinblade]

I was thinking that sparing her might give you an ally in the Reaper war in ME3

[DRSH]

Kill it wit fire!
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! think of the children!
Do it! Kill 'em! Kill'em all!
MURDERER!
ACIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIID! ME LIKES ACIIIIIIIIIIIIiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiDDDDddd!
Please! stop & think! you're commitin' GENOCIDE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I like my bugs dead.

In other words: do what you feel is right.

[Thane64]

Dont kill her!!!! she will help you in ME3!

[CeoBohga]

Sorry, taking a moment to play devil's advocate, but you realize helping you doesn't necessarily mean she will be beneficial to you. You know where they say roads paved in good intentions lead. As Autoclave pointed out, the Rachni may still be susceptible to indoctrination (as all races are)... so sure she goes out to help you, but it's possible that as a result of the Rachni help, you end up with a Rachni enemy.

(still, I say let her live...)

[maxernst]

Autoclave wrote...

CeoBohga wrote...

Krogans didn't suffer their fate because of the Rachni. They suffered their fate because of the council races (particularly the salarians and turians). From all the entries in the codex and from comments in game, I can't find a single instance of the Rachni committing genocide. Just murder and conquest (which all the species are guilty of except for maybe the Hanar). The council on the other hand... Genocide seems to be the go to solution. So tell me why I should kill off the last hope of a species' revival who themselves as an individual committed no crime? If we're going to commit genocide, shouldn't we instead be killing off the Turians for deploying the genophage, the Salarians for developing it and the Asari for approving it? I'd almost add Krogans to the list, but with them being uplifted solely to fight the Rachni, only to be later cursed with the genophage by those who used them, they've probably been punished enough.

       I am amazed what an awesome job Bioware did with rachni queen that so many ppl have different opinions on whether let her live or not. This is the way I see this:

      When deciding the fate of potentially extremely agressive species that basically compete with every other aliens in the galaxy there is no room for judgement based on individual innocence:

Is the queen innocent? Yes!
Are her offsprings potential killers? Yes!
Has the agrression from this species occured in the past? Yes!
Did Rachni show any intention on peaceful coexistence with the rest of the galaxy? No

And how do you really know that there was aggression from the rachni in the past?  Maybe the council races were the aggressors.  I see no reason to assume that the version of history that the Council has fed humanity is true, particularly when you recall that humanity's first contact with the Council races was met with hostility.

[CeoBohga]

Final playthrough before firing up ME2 and for the first time I saw the Theta Styx missions... I feel like such an idiot missing those. Anyways, those missions made me realize, let her live or die, it doesn't matter. The rachni are coming back. Two planets already infested and only presumably cleansed, plus who knows how many drones the rachni sent out before you reached the station. Then you have the station logs saying that the control unit was there, but you never see a queen... just regular warriors and the little green popping things (I forget what they're called cause they're never on screen long enough to catch the name). It seems the second queen (a clone maybe? or did binary helix mislead us on how many valid eggs they found) is already well on her way to freedom.

So now I have new speculation on the queen's help in ME3... It's possible that letting her live does not relate to helping defeat the reapers, but more in helping limit a new rachni threat (possibly a rachni civil war) as the Noveria queen has an ideological clash with the Gorgon queen due to different liberation experiences.

And as a side note... did anyone else feel that the theta styx world with the mine was designed by someone looking forward to Starcraft Ghost?

[Shenoma]

I let her live. Even after I played Mass Effect 2 and seen that Shepard needed allies, I deemed it the right choice. I think that since she is a last remnant of her species, she will avoid death by helping Shepard. Plus she said her old self seen oily shadows possibly the Reapers controlling them.

I felt that since in my perfect playthrough (7th) Wrex need to live, and the Rachni. I saved Kirrahe. That possibly means I have the salarians on my side. Without going into the details, Rachni are needed. Besides, I never like being lied to, neither does my Shepard.

[Serpenttt92]

The rachni were already dead.

[kglaser]

Nope. You're gonna need all the help you can get.

[AngryFrozenWater]

Killing the queen is a bad idea, because keeping the rachni alive has more potential: At best they'll come to your aid in ME3, at the worst they'll bite you in the ass in ME3. Both of these may generate an assignment or cool enemies. Killing the queen probably won't add anything to the game.

[kglaser]

It's actually one of the few things I can't force myself to do, even if I'm trying to play as "Pure Renegade".

[KotorEffect3]

Saphra Deden wrote...

If you want to do your job: kill the queen.

I love how some renegades are arrogant enough to think there way is the only way.

[Chromie]

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

If you want to do your job: kill the queen.

I love how some renegades are arrogant enough to think there way is the only way.

Well there is. Shepard is all you need to fight the Reapers!

[KotorEffect3]

Ringo12 wrote...

KotorEffect3 wrote...

Saphra Deden wrote...

If you want to do your job: kill the queen.

I love how some renegades are arrogant enough to think there way is the only way.

Well there is. Shepard is all you need to fight the Reapers!

Renegades will lose half the galaxy

[Ghost Warrior]

BioWare seems to always reward Paragons,so no. Don't kill them.

Modifié par Ghost Warrior, 02 juin 2011 - 08:55 .

[CroGamer002]

Do both.

Just to see what will happen.

[Mr Zoat]

Rachni Queen for love interest in ME3!

[KotorEffect3]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

BioWare seems to always reward Paragons,so no. Don't kill them.

As it should be we aren't self centered douches that go around pissing off every non-human race in the galaxy

[ladyvader]

Ghost Warrior wrote...

Well,BioWare seems to keep rewarding Paragons and punish Renegades so I think it's better to let them live.

I"m not so sure about that.  The default game in  ME2 is nothing but renegade choices.  

[Aedan_Cousland]

Paragon reason not to kill them: There are strong hints that the Rachni are not really the aggresssive, war-like species they've been portrayed as, and that Reaper indoctrination was responsible for the Rachni Wars.

Metagaming reason not to kill them: The Rachni will ally with Shepard in ME3 against the Reapers

[CeoBohga]

@ Mr Zoat: That's all kinds of awesome and frightening at the same time...

@ KotorEffect3: I'm not too sure about that... every time I turn on the news it seems to contradict what you're saying.

@ ladyvader: I think that's just reward for buying the first game, not Bioware's intended cannon. You know, you buy the first game, make the 'right' choices, get the good rewards. Don't buy the game, get the shaft and have to start with all the 'wrong' choices. In other words... marketing and angling to make sure people buy the super elite version of ME3 with all three games and the 1/16 scale model of the Normandy, complete with MaleShep and FemShep action figures... with kung fu grip of course.

[Kronner]

Aedan_Cousland wrote...

Metagaming reason not to kill them: The Rachni will ally with Shepard in ME3 against the Reapers

Maybe. And perhaps it will result in krogans not helping you because you let the queen go.

Modifié par Kronner, 02 juin 2011 - 06:37 .

[ladyvader]

CeoBohga wrote...

@ Mr Zoat: That's all kinds of awesome and frightening at the same time...

@ KotorEffect3: I'm not too sure about that... every time I turn on the news it seems to contradict what you're saying.

@ ladyvader: I think that's just reward for buying the first game, not Bioware's intended cannon. You know, you buy the first game, make the 'right' choices, get the good rewards. Don't buy the game, get the shaft and have to start with all the 'wrong' choices. In other words... marketing and angling to make sure people buy the super elite version of ME3 with all three games and the 1/16 scale model of the Normandy, complete with MaleShep and FemShep action figures... with kung fu grip of course.

That makes sense in a way.