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[Joshua N7]

It's all up to you. I saved the Racnhi in Mass Effect because I was going for an all out Paragon, but now I'm glad I did because I think that the racnhi will be a good ally to have when the Reapers come. Who knows, I think that a strong possibilty

[Reciever80]

I've always had a feeling that the rachni come and help out when the reapers arrive. Whether they will, or will not, nobody can know. I have a feeling they will though....there has to be a larger purpose for them than simply a ME1 mission.

[KotorEffect3]

CeoBohga wrote...

@ KotorEffect3: I'm not too sure about that... every time I turn on the news it seems to contradict what you're saying.

How so?

[Ozzelll]

Save the queen. The rachni aren't an aggressive race really. The queen suggests to you that the rachni leaders during the war were indoctrinated. You also get unique dialogue in me2 if you save her.

[Onpoint17]

I killed the rachni queen in my first ME1 playthrough because those bugs weirded me out. I hated them and was determined that they were all gonna die! But her death was so agonizing and horrible I haven't been able to bring Shep to do it again in my subsequent playthroughs even as a pure renegade.

[TomY90]

Ozzelll wrote...

Save the queen. The rachni aren't an aggressive race really. The queen suggests to you that the rachni leaders during the war were indoctrinated. You also get unique dialogue in me2 if you save her.

that is what I am worried about what if the reapers can indoctrinate them like they did before.

I can imagine they are more in threat of it because of them communicating from a form of singing which the reapers indoctrination frequency could be more effective on such species.

[Ztrobos]

I actually took a break from the game for a few days just to think my options through ( wich should say something about how well this questline is written ), heres my thoughts:

I play mostly Paragon with a fair chunk of Renegade, and I figure that my char is in space as an Alliance officer, human military. Shes out there to promote human intrests in the galactic community, and later as a Specter to defend peace and stability for the Council, because humanity supports it and stands to gain. The other Council races seem decent and agreeable enough, and she enjoys the idea that her work might benifit all in Council space.

Then theres this Rachni...
My first impulse is to free her out of mercy, but then I remember what William said before about not betting everything on our allies staying allies. The Rachni are formidable, breeding fast, born with all technical knowledge of their ancestry, territorial... They may be benign for now, even for a hundred years, but after that there can be no guarantees. Only sure thing is that the Rachni would grow in strength and out of control. I may be releasing a terrible doom on all of civilized space!

But on the other hand, I do'nt have to throw dice with the future of mankind and it's evolutionary cousins. I could slay the dragon as an egg. Its not genocide, not really. Just... murder.

Alien + Acid = Victory

[CaptainZaysh]

greengoron89 wrote...

I can't ever bring myself to kill her. Executing a helpless creature who pleas for mercy like that would just bear down too hard on my conscience.

Not everybody's cut out for work like this.

[Darkphalanax]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

I can't ever bring myself to kill her. Executing a helpless creature who pleas for mercy like that would just bear down too hard on my conscience.

Not everybody's cut out for work like this.

That's the beautiful of the game...

[maxernst]

Joshua N7 wrote...

It's all up to you. I saved the Racnhi in Mass Effect because I was going for an all out Paragon, but now I'm glad I did because I think that the racnhi will be a good ally to have when the Reapers come. Who knows, I think that a strong possibilty

I saved them because they might be a good ally for humanity to have if the Council races turn on them.

Modifié par maxernst, 16 septembre 2011 - 01:31 .

[DJRackham]

Really doesn't matter at this point. The Council will call you an idiot for taking either action. We really have no information as to what the repercussions in ME 3 will be if the Rachni queen lives or dies. There will be Rachni no matter what you do if their presence on multiple planets in ME1 is any indication.

[Ztrobos]

I just hope this won't be such a huge thing in the future as some people suggests it will, basicly a case of "will I have an army of fantastic allies or not?". Thats too much of a let-down for Renegades, especially if theres nothing acknowledging the Renegade choice.

[Get Magna Carter]

CaptainZaysh wrote...

greengoron89 wrote...

I can't ever bring myself to kill her. Executing a helpless creature who pleas for mercy like that would just bear down too hard on my conscience.

Not everybody's cut out for work like this.

Not everybody's a psychopath

[Hallusinaatti]

The Rachni are hideous and barely sentient bugs that once fell completely under Reaper control... It's the safe bet to get rid of them to prevent it from happening again.

The way I see it only the races we see in the Citadel are worth preserving minus the Krogan.


Same if we found dinosaur DNA and decided to clone them in the millions and just release to nature.

[d1sciple]

Hallusinaatti wrote...

The Rachni are hideous and barely sentient bugs that once fell completely under Reaper control... It's the safe bet to get rid of them to prevent it from happening again.

The way I see it only the races we see in the Citadel are worth preserving minus the Krogan.


Same if we found dinosaur DNA and decided to clone them in the millions and just release to nature.

they may be hideous but are far from barely senient, in fact they were possibly one of the first space faring species in this cycle, a peaceful race content to colonise the planets within their own controlled space until they were 'discovered' after the activation of a relay leading to their system. what happended after and the specifics of the rachni perspective is up for arguement in a hundred other threads, needless to say the wiki states them as not being indoctrinated by the reapers.

[Hallusinaatti]

d1sciple wrote...

Hallusinaatti wrote...

The Rachni are hideous and barely sentient bugs that once fell completely under Reaper control... It's the safe bet to get rid of them to prevent it from happening again.

The way I see it only the races we see in the Citadel are worth preserving minus the Krogan.


Same if we found dinosaur DNA and decided to clone them in the millions and just release to nature.

they may be hideous but are far from barely senient, in fact they were possibly one of the first space faring species in this cycle, a peaceful race content to colonise the planets within their own controlled space until they were 'discovered' after the activation of a relay leading to their system. what happended after and the specifics of the rachni perspective is up for arguement in a hundred other threads, needless to say the wiki states them as not being indoctrinated by the reapers.

They are intelligent all right, but their sentience depends too much on the queen. Incapable of independent thought, going berzerk when not in ideal conditions..
  The Rachni are a hive mind, like the Taurans in Forever War.

By real beef with the Rachni is that they reproduce too fast. If released to the nature they could take over in a matter of years. Only the Krogan had the puff to take them down and that puff brought a slew of new problems.

Whatever the Rachni are, they are more problems than they are worth.

[d1sciple]

Hallusinaatti wrote...

d1sciple wrote...

Hallusinaatti wrote...

The Rachni are hideous and barely sentient bugs that once fell completely under Reaper control... It's the safe bet to get rid of them to prevent it from happening again.

The way I see it only the races we see in the Citadel are worth preserving minus the Krogan.


Same if we found dinosaur DNA and decided to clone them in the millions and just release to nature.

they may be hideous but are far from barely senient, in fact they were possibly one of the first space faring species in this cycle, a peaceful race content to colonise the planets within their own controlled space until they were 'discovered' after the activation of a relay leading to their system. what happended after and the specifics of the rachni perspective is up for arguement in a hundred other threads, needless to say the wiki states them as not being indoctrinated by the reapers.

They are intelligent all right, but their sentience depends too much on the queen. Incapable of independent thought, going berzerk when not in ideal conditions..
  The Rachni are a hive mind, like the Taurans in Forever War.

By real beef with the Rachni is that they reproduce too fast. If released to the nature they could take over in a matter of years. Only the Krogan had the puff to take them down and that puff brought a slew of new problems.

Whatever the Rachni are, they are more problems than they are worth.

yeah but they didn't, they were flying round the galaxy colonising planets before anyone else with no negative impact untill they we're 'discovered'. also they're not quite a hive mind, they are connected psychically but not controlled, their upbringing is what governs their nature and that without the guidance of the queen they become mindless, violent insects, like any other kid without parental guidance.

[Ztrobos]

In the best-case scenario, the rachni will expand peacefully, claiming new worlds out of necessity as their numbers swell. In a matter of decades they´ll completely overshadow the council races politicly, through their military superiority and cheer weight of numbers.

As interesting and novel as that scenario sounds to me, my character would simply not allow that future to ocure if a simple murder would prevent it. Before you judge her morally, consider, that neither would James Bond.

[Doug4130]

I reprogrammed the geth for the same reason I saved the queen - hopefully more numbers on my side vs the reapers, or at least something else for the reapers to focus their attention on to maybe spread them out more. That and even though I'm renegade to the bone, I believe in second chances

[Hallusinaatti]

d1sciple wrote...

yeah but they didn't, they were flying round the galaxy colonising planets before anyone else with no negative impact untill they we're 'discovered'. also they're not quite a hive mind, they are connected psychically but not controlled, their upbringing is what governs their nature and that without the guidance of the queen they become mindless, violent insects, like any other kid without parental guidance.

They are still too dangerous to be let wander around in an inhabited galaxy. They can't communicate with others, and as many times mentioned they expand too fast. Like with the Krogan the only result of unchecked Rachni expansion is interstellar war.

[Ztrobos]

Fibonacci wrote...

I would hardly call that "Best Case."

To me, best case would be a rapidly grown army to assist in the Reaper war and then a self-controlled population afterwards with long term goals of peaceful coexistance and trade with the other races. This queen has the genetic memory of her ancestors and knows what happens when your race tries to over populate and expand. Why would she make the same choices and expect a different outcome?

The mistake was going to war against the rest of the galaxy, but why would they want to limit their own influence in the galactic community? They really do´nt strike me as a kind of creature that would purposefully restrict or limit their own numbers, if they even can.

ANyway, really nice discussion guys!

[d1sciple]

remember you can't forget history. the rachni totally controlled their own system and it wasn't until they were invaded by the Council that they went berserk and tore the galaxy a new one, and unlike the first contact war the rachni were real badass, taking over every planet they could. ****, humans would of done the same if we could of during the first contact war and WE were the ones seen as invading after using the relay.