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[Thine Enemy]

Hello.

I need some advice on getting money in this game. By the end of my last playthrough (as a mage), I have gathered a total sum 485 Sovereigns. All of that is from selling unnecessary equipment and doing quite a few sidequests. I have started another mage playthrough (what can I say? I like to play as a mage) and I plan to get as much gold as I possibly can. What advice can you give for my money-gaining endeavors to become a major success?

Would my money intake increase marginally were I to do every side-quest? What of stealing? Would that help out a bit?

Any advice would be highly appreciated. :­D

Also, I prefer to do this without the use of repetitive exploits such as the making and selling of Potent Lyrium Potions. Although, the selling of my lyrium potions can help out a bit as I don't remember ever using one lyrium potion in my last playthrough...

Modifié par Thine Enemy, 27 avril 2011 - 10:43 .

[Gangster No.1]

Stealing definitely helps, but it gets annoying that most of the time you are getting items instead of money. At least it's annoying for me because you don't immediately see what you stole. Side quests are also pretty much a most-do.

The best way to get lots of cash is to craft Potent Lyrium potions and sell them, even if you don't like it. It's one of the few things you can craft (if not the only one) you can sell for a profit. At one point I spent half an afternoon crafting 2,000 potions and then went on a shopping spree. Still had 750+ sovereigns left after that.

Modifié par Gangster No.1, 27 avril 2011 - 10:57 .

[TheBigMatt90]

Instead of wasting your time crafting lyrium potions, which IS an exploit imo, why not just enable the developer console and make gold appear out of thin air?

I mean yes, it may be cheating, but you will come to the same end as with crafting lyrium potions - ie loads of money - but without wasting loads of time doing something totally boring and monotonous.

Just google "enable developer console" or "dragon age origins cheats pc" and im sure you can manage with the rest,

If you want to do it honestly, there are a few quests that earn you lots of gold. http://dragonage.wik...ey_Making_Guide
The legit ones are further down. Also, you can sell the Reaper's Cudgel for 335 gold (670 if you are a dwarf noble to Gorim) right at the beginning if you have Golems of Amgarrak

[digi_ronin]

TheBigMatt90 wrote...

Instead of wasting your time crafting lyrium potions, which IS an exploit imo, why not just enable the developer console and make gold appear out of thin air?

I mean yes, it may be cheating, but you will come to the same end as with crafting lyrium potions - ie loads of money - but without wasting loads of time doing something totally boring and monotonous.

This. Precisely.

Now, don't get me wrong, I had a glitch-yes-cheat-no policy going on for years, myself. But today, I just don't have the time anymore. And looking back... the notion of "punishing yourself" for exploiting by enduring the monotonous exploit process feels pretty stupid.

From a roleplaying perspective it makes no sense either: why would theGrey Warden spend precious days running back and forth across the plains for 20 days to make money? While the Blight is boiling in the south? Simply arguing that he just found a stash of sovereigns "under that stone in the last ruin" is quite a bit easier to stomach, immersion-wise.

-digiro

Modifié par digi_ronin, 28 avril 2011 - 01:19 .

[Gregor55]

I pondered the lyrium potion scam long and hard in origins. I could not beleive thay had not put it in there deliberately, especially since they set the sell price of distillation agent low at the Gnarled Noble. On the other hand, there was no limit to how much money you could make and that didn't feel right.

Then I started Awakening and found you could still make lytium potions at a profit, but you could also make dweumer runes at an even better return to make money even faster. I concluded that these trade opportunities must have been deliberately put in the game by design as they could not have made the same mistake twice. So IMHO it is definitely not a cheat, or even an exploit, to trade lyrium potions, it was put in the game.

What I could not figure out is why they did this. Why not put enough treasure at the end of side quests to provide a hard working player the well deserved wherewithall to buy the cool gear? I don't know, but I could suggest this:

At the hardest difficulty boss enemies have a lot more hit points and tougher armour so it takes a lot longer to kill them. Working on the basis that the challenge on nightmare is to be able to stay in the fight with them at all, five minutes is as good as ten, so why not have some better weapons to make it a bit quicker if you get the better of them. I think the principle is that if you are good enough at RPG to play this game on nighmare you will probably be good enough to find the lyrium potion opportunity.

I think the game is balanced for being able to buy 2 or 3 expensive items as a reasonably experienced player on hard. That is about how much money you can make in this game if you take the right decisions on all the plot side quest opportunities and fight well enough to avoid excessive potion consumption.

However, making all the right decisions means behaving in a totally mercenary manner in this game. There is nothing to be gained in this game for not intimidating people into handing over more money, and this may not sit right with many players characters. It's not like BG/NWN where you may get bonus XP for forgoeing some reward element for example. That's another possible reason for putting this in: so you can play the nice guy and still get some decent kit.

All in all I think this is an unsatisfactory element of the game and I don't blame you for fretting over what to do about it. Since you've played through already my 2c would be award yourself a certain number of choice items based on your character's disposition and the level of difficulty you decide to play on this time and make enough lyrium potions to achieve that limit if necessary.

[gneisenau556]

When doing the "Asunder" quest, position all your characters around the alter, have one click on the alter, then quickly pause and switch to another character who will click on the alter, and then pause and repeat. You will be able to ask the demon for rewards four times, in other words 4 x 25 gold.

[Thine Enemy]

I will consider using the console to add money for my current Awakening Playthrough (which I have put on hold for not being satisfied what level I have to my character to by the end of the original game-- I know I could go higher than that), as it makes logical sense: Why waste all of that time to make money when you could just use the console to get the amount you need? You are going to get that money anyway by using the buying and selling Potent Lyrium Potions, anyway. It took me quite a while to get the gold I need to buy all the items I believe necessary.

I think the game is balanced for being able to buy 2 or 3 expensive items as a reasonably experienced player on hard. That is about how much money you can make in this game if you take the right decisions on all the plot side quest opportunities and fight well enough to avoid excessive potion consumption.

This is pretty much one of the reasons I started the second playthrough. I bought quite a few expensive items: All of the Arcane Technique books, the Lifegiver, Andruil's Blessing, The Staff of the Magister Lords--quite a toll on my money purse. :­(

But, I'm pretty sure that I can do a bit better to raise enough to get Wade's Superior Heavy Dragonscale sets, Evon's Greatmail, and the other technique tomes, but I would need to do a lot. What I want to do is find out how much I can make and what expensive items I can get without having to go through making a bunch of Lyrium potions or using a console cheat. However, I will make lyrium potions and sell them, but I won't go overboard enough to be able to buy EVERYTHING, lol. Nothing wrong to work a few tedious tasks and maybe waste about 15 minutes to 30 minutes making stuff. Definitely not gonna do it for two hours like I have done last time...

However, making all the right decisions means behaving in a totally mercenary manner in this game. There is nothing to be gained in this game for not intimidating people into handing over more money, and this may not sit right with many players characters.

No problem for me--this is how I usually play my characters in an RPG. Being a badass mercenary is some mighty fun stuff. Especially if you have the option to be the comedic sociopath type--like Deadpool. :­)

Also, thanks for taking the time to answer, guys! Highly appreciated indeed! :­D

Modifié par Thine Enemy, 28 avril 2011 - 11:46 .

[Gregor55]

Actually, as a footnote, I just remembered reading that if you play as a dwarf noble you get twice as much money from the dwarf merchants for your loot. So how does that work. You buy the game and play blind first time out. You happen to choose dwarf noble so you get much better equipment than everyone else much faster and you don't even know. Neither does everyone else who played as human or elf and had to struggle for every cent. It doesn't make sense at all.

The more I think about it the more I think Bioware decided to implement a different economy to the BG/IWD/NWN series in that money would be restricted but there would be plenty of cool items to covet rather than giving you vast amounts of treasure but nothing much to buy  with it, then they got themselves tied up in knots, or had serious disagreements, over how exactly to do that. I think the idea is sound, but the implementation is a mess.

[Sesmos]

I managed to play through Origins and buy all of the "uber" mage gear that I needed as well as some stuff for my friends, and I did not once use the whole lyrium gold boost. To be honest I did not know about it till now. And Iv had tons of gold the old fashioned nice guy way. And I think i did pretty good without it.

[Innocenz]

The thing is, if you play on "Easy" you wont need to spend your gold on potions, traps or salves or anything like it. Indeed you are able to buy stuff you wouldn't be able to buy on "Nightmare".
(of course without the Lyrium Potion Exploit).

I guess you all now of the infamous "Lyrium Delivery Quest" but im going to tell you anyways:
In Dust Town in Orzammar there is a dwarf in a corner who offers you a special quest: Deliver Lyrium to the Mage Godwin in the CircleTower without paying toll ^^. Well if you accept and instead of paying 50 sovereigns choose to "persuade" him and just pay 40 sovereigns, then deliver to Godwin in the -suitcase- ^^ You are able to sell the Lyrium for i think about 70 sovereigns. Or no it was 60+item (a dagger i think).

At any rate. I didnt knew about the Lyrium Potion Exploit nor the 4x 25goldsovereign Asunder Exploit and still managed to buy 4 uber items at "normal"Difficulty (Andruil'sBlessing, Lifegiver, the Spellward, and Staff of the Magisterlord even though i didnt needed it once... My Arcane Mage had Spellweaver equipped throughout the whole game and Awakening

[Mabari Owns High Dragon]

I don't know about you but I view the Lyrium "Exploit" and Rune "Exploit" as an option for those willing to spend the time on it. It was never patched so the developers obviously decided to leave it for use, therefore its not technically cheating.

As for making money, you can steal from NPCs (Some need high cunning), complete quests (obvious), and... well.. thats about it. The only real way to have more cash then normal is being a Dwarven Rogue and selling everything you can to the Dwarf Merchant in the Denerim Market.

Modifié par Mabari Owns High Dragon, 06 mai 2011 - 03:04 .

[Sesmos]

I play on Nightmare...Quite easily if I may add.

[Thine Enemy]

yay! Finally have done something that'll lessen my money problems! I have unlocked the Reaper's Cudgel. Fighting against that... thing was crazy hard. First time I ever had to switch to Hardcore...

Anyway, now that I have it, I can sell it and be able to get all that I need and more.