byzantine horse wrote...
As that systme is replacing the crafting system from Origins one can say that this new system is better or worse than the old one. It still fills the same role.
Aaleel wrote...
This depends. If someone was a slave and is wholeheatredly against slavery, will they date a person who supports slavery or owns slaves? Or if a person thinks group A is oppressing group B. Will they date someone who supports group A and helps them oppress group B. Some of the stuff people overllok to romance you is just ridiculous.
BobSmith101 wrote...
byzantine horse wrote...
As that systme is replacing the crafting system from Origins one can say that this new system is better or worse than the old one. It still fills the same role.
Not really.
In DA2 it's another way of buying things. In DA it's a way of creating something while out in the "field".
Persephone wrote...
Aaleel wrote...
This depends. If someone was a slave and is wholeheatredly against slavery, will they date a person who supports slavery or owns slaves? Or if a person thinks group A is oppressing group B. Will they date someone who supports group A and helps them oppress group B. Some of the stuff people overllok to romance you is just ridiculous.
These things are adressed (If you do them) And yes, some people want such polar opposites who challenge them at every turn. Not to mention that none of these things are necessary to engage in a Rivalmance. Look at Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII. Ended in tragedy, yes. And so it did between Hawke and a certain mage. Tis realistic.
As for crafting, would I like a crafting system like in The Witcher EE? Sure. But I'm also glad that my inventory isn't cluttered with ingredients anymore. Just me, of course.
abaris wrote...
Its not bias. Consider this. If you have a dx10 card, you are stuck with medium graphics and can't change any individual setting to a higher level. Only dx11 cards, provided you downloaded the graphics pack, can work that magic.
Aaleel wrote...
As far as the romance thing, we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. I don't see a person ignoring some of the things they ask you to swallow in this game. Some of the thing you say to people are outright putdowns, and some things you do go against the most core beliefs people have.
Why Do I feel the odd one out for enjoying DA2?
Persephone wrote...
BobSmith101 wrote...
byzantine horse wrote...
As that systme is replacing the crafting system from Origins one can say that this new system is better or worse than the old one. It still fills the same role.
Not really.
In DA2 it's another way of buying things. In DA it's a way of creating something while out in the "field".
Made no sense in DAO either. Want a realistic crafting system? The Witcher EE did it better than both DAO and DAII.
Cutlass Jack wrote...
Aaleel wrote...
As far as the romance thing, we'll just have to agree to disagree on that. I don't see a person ignoring some of the things they ask you to swallow in this game. Some of the thing you say to people are outright putdowns, and some things you do go against the most core beliefs people have.
Feels realistic enough to me. Opposites attract and all that. I've seen more than a few couples who putdown each other in public and/ore have major differences in core beliefs.
Which explains the popularity of Angry Sex, Makeup Sex, and divorces.
abaris wrote...
Fieryeel wrote...
Graphics: Stop being biased. Yes, the elf re-design is terrible to the vast majority of elves. And there are many many ambient NPCs that are nastily low-res. But if you seriously think that DAO had better graphics than DA2, then you might wanna re-check your settings.
Its not bias. Consider this. If you have a dx10 card, you are stuck with medium graphics and can't change any individual setting to a higher level. Only dx11 cards, provided you downloaded the graphics pack, can work that magic.
Fieryeel wrote...
Then that is an issue with the settings and optimization, not the graphics quality.
TomY90 wrote...
Ok 1st of I know why many people disliked DA2 but I very much enjoyed it I only had 2 real criticisms and only one of them is major the rest of the game was brilliantly done and was well thought out like the action was more involving than DA: Origins, graphics better, great voice acting, good humour, well scripted, the story was very good and the characters were amazing probably one of the best set of bioware characters yet.
But my criticisms were the recycled maps and the ending which felt abit last minute. Which I know why in real life why they did it which was simply you could not end it further on or it DA3 or DA2.5 will feel disjointed at the start.
and the recycled maps made it feel very repetitive when in real life it was not actually it was just the maps were all too familiar.
Overall I do say well done bioware on dragon age 2 but just make sure you do not do map recycling so much and satisfy the fans who like the heavy strategies in RPGs (which I am not one of those i am more into the dialogue than planning how to fight)
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Modifié par Selene Moonsong, 28 avril 2011 - 06:41 .
Aaleel wrote...
I bet they weren't putting each other down when they first met, or on their first dates. I'm sorry if I'm trying to romance someone I just met and they tell me they're really into church, and I say God is only a ficticious being made up to get money from dumb people. That person is not going to continue seeing me, I'm sorry.
People don;t speak their full mind during the feeling out dating process,they do it once they're in.
KBomb wrote...
Aaleel wrote...
I bet they weren't putting each other down when they first met, or on their first dates. I'm sorry if I'm trying to romance someone I just met and they tell me they're really into church, and I say God is only a ficticious being made up to get money from dumb people. That person is not going to continue seeing me, I'm sorry.
People don;t speak their full mind during the feeling out dating process,they do it once they're in.
This is not a universal truth. I would absolutely share my views on subjects should they arise and would be completely truthful about them. I would expect him to respect my views as I would his regardless of which side we’re on. I would never start a relationship pretending to like or dislike something just so he’d like me. Don’t like me for who I am? Then you’re not the one for me and it’s best we get it out of the way.
Modifié par Aaleel, 28 avril 2011 - 07:02 .
Persephone wrote...
Aaleel wrote...
This depends. If someone was a slave and is wholeheatredly against slavery, will they date a person who supports slavery or owns slaves? Or if a person thinks group A is oppressing group B. Will they date someone who supports group A and helps them oppress group B. Some of the stuff people overllok to romance you is just ridiculous.
These things are adressed (If you do them) And yes, some people want such polar opposites who challenge them at every turn. Not to mention that none of these things are necessary to engage in a Rivalmance. Look at Anne Boleyn and Henry VIII. Ended in tragedy, yes. And so it did between Hawke and a certain mage. Tis realistic.
As for crafting, would I like a crafting system like in The Witcher EE? Sure. But I'm also glad that my inventory isn't cluttered with ingredients anymore. Just me, of course.
Aaleel wrote...
I didn't say it was universal truth. People are saying oh, I know couples who put each other down, or do this and that. All I'm saying is that they probably weren't doing that early on in the dating process, that kind of stuff doesn't happen until later on.
Because like I also said earlier if you do that stuff in the beginning, to quote you "Then you're not the one for me and it's best we get it out the way". is probably what will result.
erynnar wrote...
Sorry, but I'm not sure King Henry and Anne Boleyn are really good examples. Weren't they an arranged marriage? More like Cheryl Crow and Lance Armstrong...and they wound up breaking up.
Aaleel wrote...
I bet they weren't putting each other down when they first met, or on their first dates. I'm sorry if I'm trying to romance someone I just met and they tell me they're really into church, and I say God is only a ficticious being made up to get money from dumb people. That person is not going to continue seeing me, I'm sorry.
People don;t speak their full mind during the feeling out dating process,they do it once they're in.
Cutlass Jack wrote...
Aaleel wrote...
I bet they weren't putting each other down when they first met, or on their first dates. I'm sorry if I'm trying to romance someone I just met and they tell me they're really into church, and I say God is only a ficticious being made up to get money from dumb people. That person is not going to continue seeing me, I'm sorry.
People don;t speak their full mind during the feeling out dating process,they do it once they're in.
Challenging their beliefs is not quite the same thing as putting them down. The rivalry romance path can be very engaging in some cases because its the route that lets you challenge them on something that you feel they are just being wrong about.
For example you're romancing Alistair. He is firmly convinced to the core of his being that swooping is bad. But you know he's wrong. There are many times when swooping is quite good. Eventually the tension gets so thick you throw him down on the ground and swoop the heck out of him. Alistair is later forced to admit that maybe swooping wasn't so bad after all.
More seriously, the rivalry romance really wasn't all that different than challenging Leliana's faith in her visions, Zevran's casualness towards murder, hardening Alistair, or teaching Morrigan that being close to others isn't all bad. In all those cases you can take some dislike hits but still romance them.
Besides, half eaten cake heals all wounds.
Modifié par Aaleel, 28 avril 2011 - 07:33 .
Cutlass Jack wrote...
Aaleel wrote...
I bet they weren't putting each other down when they first met, or on their first dates. I'm sorry if I'm trying to romance someone I just met and they tell me they're really into church, and I say God is only a ficticious being made up to get money from dumb people. That person is not going to continue seeing me, I'm sorry.
People don;t speak their full mind during the feeling out dating process,they do it once they're in.
Challenging their beliefs is not quite the same thing as putting them down. The rivalry romance path can be very engaging in some cases because its the route that lets you challenge them on something that you feel they are just being wrong about.
For example you're romancing Alistair. He is firmly convinced to the core of his being that swooping is bad. But you know he's wrong. There are many times when swooping is quite good. Eventually the tension gets so thick you throw him down on the ground and swoop the heck out of him. Alistair is later forced to admit that maybe swooping wasn't so bad after all.
More seriously, the rivalry romance really wasn't all that different than challenging Leliana's faith in her visions, Zevran's casualness towards murder, hardening Alistair, or teaching Morrigan that being close to others isn't all bad. In all those cases you can take some dislike hits but still romance them.
Besides, half eaten cake heals all wounds.
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