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[Gabey5]

my first play i will try to screw the aliens as much as possible

[Cypher0020]

I.... I..... that is a really good question...... grr... I hate Virmire

I can't really say until I know all the facts...but... if i had to.... I suppose the salarian homeworld....

[Nicodemus]

Paragon choice, Earth. Renegade choice, everything else.

[Foolsfolly]

Nicodemus wrote...

Paragon choice, Earth. Renegade choice, everything else.

That's not really in the spirit of the question.

There is no Paragon or Renegade choice on Virmire. So if you had to pick between the four worlds in a Virmire like situation....well it's not about points. It's about having to make a monsterous call in order to save a greater number of people.

OP, your logic is sound. I cannot think of a reason not to axe the salarian homeworld in such a question. They're not as emotional, won't likely seek revenge for it since it's a sound decision, and they can reproduce faster than any other non-rachni/vorcha race.

Wiping out Earth or Thessia would be devestating and wiping out Palaven? Do the words, 'political ****storm' mean anything to you. Turians the galaxy over would say that of course a human made that call and who knows what kind of blow-back that would have.

I'm sorry, salarians but in this question....you're the best choice for the gallows.

[man giraffedog000]

I've come to warn you about MAN-GIRAFFE-DOG!! It's the single greatest threat to humanity!! RUN AWAY!!



I'm still more Serial than ever guys.

[Wulfram]

I'd assume Palaven would be the greatest military asset, and preserving it would be my priority unless somehow victory was assured anyway.

ddv.rsa wrote...

As for the Asari and Salarians being stooges, just look how they legislated a military advantage for the Turians. If they were really on equal terms that would not have happened.

3+3>5

What I note about the Treaty of Farixen is that it preserved the military superiority of the Asari/Salarian alliance which had dominated the galaxy for centuries, without forcing them into an expensive arms race with the Turians.

[Dean_the_Young]

jamesp81 wrote...

You underestimate our capacity for demanding blood.  If a WMD like a genophage-type bioweapon was used, and we think we know who it was, the public will be calling for retaliation in kind.  Since it's likely the Alliance wouldn't have sophisticated bioweapons on hand, they'd likely go the much less sophisticated, but just as effective, route of using nuclear / antimatter saturation bombing of Salarian worlds.

Remember, we're talking about humanity here.  The race that started WW 1 over one aristocrat getting himself shot in Serbia.

I'm well aware of our capacity for demanding blood. I'm also even more aware of letting the emotion of the moment blind you: over-reactions in the past are not reason to plan on them in the future.

A genocide of the Salarians would be a disaster for the Alliance. Not only do the natives have the unfortunate capacity of being able to hit back, hard, but a disproportionate response without restraint isn't just a recipie for getting into ruinous wars: it's a guarantee to lose inter-relation standing, support, and consolidate defensive alliances against you.

Ignore that the Salarians have dreadnaughts that can devastate our colonies, and even Earth, until we can catch them (which is no small task). Ignore that you could even be wrong: the Salarians are hardly the only species capable of bio-weapon attacks (indeed, the Terminus is filled with states that use them). Let's nicesly side step the entire moral failing of collective punishment by an unaware populace.

Let's just focus on how the rest of the galaxy, which can easily take out Humanity if it unified in opposition, will react if the Human response to an attack is indiscriminate genocide.

And then let's talk about whether we should let our brains choose our actions, or the emotions on the street.

[Dean_the_Young]

As a sudden brain storm, the Klendagon Canon may well be the means to set up this Virmire-esque choice: a sudden, unpredictable destruction of a mass relay near a Council world, taking the Reapers in the vicinity by surprise before they could go to FTL. Significant Reaper casualities... at such cost.

Cerberus hold a nasty boom stick if there ever was one.

[GuardianAngel470]

KILL THEM ALL.

Who needs homeworlds anyway when you have the opportunity to ruthlessly and without cause kill billions upon billions of civilians?

I mean really, what purpose do all those people serve? What good do they really provide?

Better to rid the already filthy galaxy of their putrid existance.

[AVPen]

Posted this in another thread, but I am really, really hoping that these Species/World Choices in ME3 are less like the Virmire situation of ME1 and more like the Loyality Conflicts of ME2 - where normally you'd have to choose between one individual/race over another, but if certain requirements are met, you'd be able to resolve the conflict in a manner that's beneficial for both sides and doesn't exclude one side's support over the other.

[RAF1940]

goodbye Thessia.


Asari are MOSTLY arrogant ****es. Why does everyone like them?

[InvaderErl]

http://tvtropes.org/...GirlOnGirlIsHot

[Someone With Mass]

I can count the asari I like on one hand, anyway.

[InvaderErl]

The Asari need more Claudia Black.

[KarmicSynergy]

I guess I mistakenly assumed that most males would like the Asari race for obvious reasons. I do understand those who complain about the Asari because of "fan-service" reasons.

I'm a big fan of the Asari: Blue, Beautiful, Biotic, Badass, Buxom, ... even the B*tchy ones are fun...if only because in the game you get to kill them as you see fit (see Captain Enyala, etc.). Insert that awesome line from Parasini about "nailing Asari..." But even if you hate Asari, wouldn't you want them around so you could wipe them up and break their "superiority" complex that arguably exists?

On a slightly more serious note:
I never realized so many people would like to eliminate them (Thessia) first. Asari are a very useful race on a galactic, ME universal level for the reasons others have mentioned. Humanity could learn a lot from the Asari. From a practical viewpoint, Humans are adaptable and warlike, hence Turians seem to be the appropriate choice to eliminate in my opinion, since Humanity can replace them the easiest in a galactic sense. Also, it seems that Humans and Turians are more similar to each other; consider the First Contact war and the somewhat "uneasy" coexistence. This all assumes that the Reapers are defeated of course. Otherwise, who cares which race is sacrificed?

Humans surviving on the council would form a well rounded galaxy with Asari, Salarians and the rest.
Of course, Garrus would have to survive no matter what!
And the Turian Councilor has to be kept alive for obvious reasons. I wonder, does anyone at all like the Turian Councilor? (Hmm... I wonder who is more hated: the Turian Councilor or Udina, but that is a whole new thread).

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