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[nopho]

week 9's out, no numbers for america though

edit: europes numbers seem down quite a bit, guess the big retailers, (amazon UK for half of europe) sold their leftover stock in week 8

Modifié par nopho, 13 mai 2011 - 01:33 .

[Jackel159357]

So basically what Gaiders saying is that if they waited to just before Christmas to release the game is would have sold better and been a better game? Sounds like a win win to me.

[SirShreK]

http://www.bit-tech....ublic-preview/1

Bioware is sure in a lot of trouble if this is true.

[Jerrybnsn]

Only about 10,000 sold on all three platforms. {que Taps}

Edit: Argh, I was only looking at European sales. {que New Orleans' Jazz music}

Modifié par Jerrybnsn, 13 mai 2011 - 06:05 .

[Everwarden]

SirShreK wrote...

http://www.bit-tech....ublic-preview/1

Bioware is sure in a lot of trouble if this is true.

Kiss Dragon Age goodbye, then. Sad, but if TOR fails Bioware is going to crumble. 

[Jerrybnsn]

Everwarden wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

http://www.bit-tech....ublic-preview/1

Bioware is sure in a lot of trouble if this is true.

Kiss Dragon Age goodbye, then. Sad, but if TOR fails Bioware is going to crumble. 

That's a pretty damning review. "...we’d happily let The Old Republic stay in a galaxy far, far away. "  The only thing Bioware has right now is Mass Effect 3 coming out.  I wish they would just go back to what they do the best.

[CaptainBlackGold]

SirShreK wrote...

http://www.bit-tech....ublic-preview/1

Bioware is sure in a lot of trouble if this is true.

Did anyone else get the feeling that apart from references to MMO's they could have been describing DA2?

[xkg]

SirShreK wrote...

http://www.bit-tech....ublic-preview/1

Bioware is sure in a lot of trouble if this is true.

I just wish they had made it as a single player game. I love Kotor(1&2) and Star Wars franchise but i i have no interest in any kind of MMO games.

[kingjezza]

CaptainBlackGold wrote...

SirShreK wrote...

http://www.bit-tech....ublic-preview/1

Bioware is sure in a lot of trouble if this is true.

Did anyone else get the feeling that apart from references to MMO's they could have been describing DA2?

Yeah thought the same, it's hard not to really when you read things like this.

We found ourselves wading through an almost obscene amount of combat
too, usually against the type of wild beasties and bandits that typify
every RPG, ever – but in greater quantity and in an area which felt far
smaller. In some cases we’d clear out an area, walk into the next room,
turn back and face the exact same enemies we’d killed only moments
before. Once or twice we even saw foes respawning over their own corpses
as conversations distracted us – very, very anti-fun.



What’s most disappointing of all is how empty and lacking in personality
the worlds of The Old Republic felt. It didn’t matter whether we were
dealing with ganglords on Hutta or seizing gun emplacements on Alderaan;
we never saw any of the pizzazz or colour which we’d expect of the Star
Wars franchise. There was none of the hustle or bustle you’d expect of a
thriving interstellar universe, merely same-faced folk standing in an
under-populated shell of a world.

[devSin]

Jackel159357 wrote...

So basically what Gaiders saying is that if they waited to just before Christmas to release the game is would have sold better and been a better game? Sounds like a win win to me.

No, he said it would make more sense if you compared their launch sales if they had both been released at the same time of year (all games get a boost over the holiday shopping season, not just those released in the holiday quarter).

Dragon Age II underperformed. Severely, if I were to speculate. But you can't necessarily hold up Origins sales figures as how it should have performed in its first two months, because they were released in different quarters.

SirShreK wrote...

Bioware is sure in a lot of trouble if this is true.

Meh. There were reviewers who hated Origins too. If anything has been learned over the past few months, it should be that reviews are crap and reviewers are frauds. When the players get ahold of it, then we'll know how well it's received.

Personally, I don't believe they can dislodge the stranglehold WoW has on the MMO market internationally (maybe they'll do acceptably in the US, but I don't see them taking off all over the world, and the Asian market has its own novelty games that I think are more popular there).

I do agree that if TOR fails (as I believe it will) BioWare could be in serious jeopardy. Luckily it should affect the Austin and Montreal studios first, and Edmonton may be spared (and that's where the good stuff comes from anyway).

[xkg]

Week 9 sales (VGChartz) are available:

All platforms (Americas & EMEAA) : 13,323 17,288      (week 7: 40,697    week 8: 29,146)


EDIT: Sorry my bad, i didnt include PC sales - fixed now.

Modifié par xkg, 13 mai 2011 - 05:04 .

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

devSin wrote...

Meh. There were reviewers who hated Origins too. If anything has been learned over the past few months, it should be that reviews are crap and reviewers are frauds. When the players get ahold of it, then we'll know how well it's received.

Personally, I don't believe they can dislodge the stranglehold WoW has on the MMO market internationally (maybe they'll do acceptably in the US, but I don't see them taking off all over the world, and the Asian market has its own novelty games that I think are more popular there).

I do agree that if TOR fails (as I believe it will) BioWare could be in serious jeopardy. Luckily it should affect the Austin and Montreal studios first, and Edmonton may be spared (and that's where the good stuff comes from anyway).

There are some pretty good reasons to hate Origins, depending on one's gaming tastes.

Most of the complaints in that review seem to revolve around the similarity between TOR and other MMO's.  I'm not sure that's the kiss of death for TOR, since a lot of people are playing those games.  I'm not sure the typical Bioware fan will be interested in a typical MMO in Star Wars clothing, though.  I was never optimistic that Bioware would be able to revolutionize MMO game play; I could only hope that they would introduce more narrative elements than WoW and its cousins.

I hope it does well, I suppose.  I'm not interested in playing an MMO, and I'm also about done with stories in the Star Wars setting, so this one wasn't for me from the beginning.

[SirShreK]

xkg wrote...


Week 9 sales (VGChartz) are available:

All platforms (Americas & EMEAA) : 13,323 17,288      (week 7: 40,697    week 8: 29,146)


EDIT: Sorry my bad, i didnt include PC sales - fixed now.

[WARNING]JUST FOR KICKS DATA REQUEST[\\WARNING]


How does that number compare to projections?

[IanPolaris]

SirShreK wrote...

xkg wrote...


Week 9 sales (VGChartz) are available:

All platforms (Americas & EMEAA) : 13,323 17,288      (week 7: 40,697    week 8: 29,146)


EDIT: Sorry my bad, i didnt include PC sales - fixed now.

[WARNING]JUST FOR KICKS DATA REQUEST[WARNING]


How does that number compare to projections?

Without actually cranking through the function and based on the rough approximation of a two week half-life, I'd say the numbers are damn close to projections.  17,288 is a bit more than half of 29,146 which is about what the projection predicts near as I can tell.

-Polaris

[xkg]

[JFK] Projection was 25,121 for week 9 (closest projection to 17,288 was for week 11 : 18,629) [/JFK]

Modifié par xkg, 13 mai 2011 - 05:44 .

[SirShreK]

@xkg and IanPolaris:

Thanks.

[IanPolaris]

xkg wrote...

[JFK] Projection was 25,121 for week 9 (closest projection to 17,288 was for week 11 : 18,629) [/JFK]

Ouch.  That's not good for DA2.

-Polaris

[Jerrybnsn]

Xbox--6,416

PS3--6,907

PC--3,965


With Europeans buying twice as much as the American market. What's the variable here?

[xkg]

New "Easy & Clean" chart without too much unwanted data :

 Dragon Age 2 Sales for all platfoerms (Americas & EMEAA)

[Sabriana]

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Xbox--6,416

PS3--6,907

PC--3,965


With Europeans buying twice as much as the American market. What's the variable here?

In my country, the game is now quite cheap. Most retailer sell it for half-price now. Some even for less than half. For that price, the game is quite acceptable. It's an average game (imo) for a now average price.

[Drachasor]

devSin wrote...

Jackel159357 wrote...

So basically what Gaiders saying is that if they waited to just before Christmas to release the game is would have sold better and been a better game? Sounds like a win win to me.

No, he said it would make more sense if you compared their launch sales if they had both been released at the same time of year (all games get a boost over the holiday shopping season, not just those released in the holiday quarter).

Dragon Age II underperformed. Severely, if I were to speculate. But you can't necessarily hold up Origins sales figures as how it should have performed in its first two months, because they were released in different quarters.

Yeah, but also factor in that sequels typically get a big bump if the original was really popular.  You see that bump with the first month sales (thanks to pre-orders), but word of mouth seems to kill the sales numbers pretty quick.  Granted you wouldn't expect the sales numbers to be the same, but it isn't unreasonable to expect total sales over the first many weeks to either be comparable or favoring DA2 (afterall, DA2 has the rep of DAO to help boost sales).

The general downward nature of the DA2 curve is pretty good reality check too, and the fact EA feels they need to offer deal upon deal for DA2.  Heck, I bought mine just because I got ME2 for free AND because DA2 was 30% off...I had already decided DA2 wasn't worth the price even with ME2 free (which is only worth $20 to buy seperately).

[Jerrybnsn]

Sabriana wrote...

Jerrybnsn wrote...

Xbox--6,416

PS3--6,907

PC--3,965


With Europeans buying twice as much as the American market. What's the variable here?

In my country, the game is now quite cheap. Most retailer sell it for half-price now. Some even for less than half. For that price, the game is quite acceptable. It's an average game (imo) for a now average price.

Wow.  I just checked online what the game is selling for and Best Buy is selling it at $39.99.  I might buy it if it comes down another $10.  Or maybe I'll just play Origins again.

[xkg]

Price didn't drop much here where i live - around 130 PLN = 33€ / 30₤ / 48$

[Seitur]

Resellers sell EADM digital key thou for as low as 46 PLN = 12 Euro. And price is so low for few weeks already. Though it is selling very bad even for that low price at Polish bigggest ebay like service. (Ebay lost ompetition here and is second or 3rd biggest I think )

[Gleym]

xkg wrote...


New "Easy & Clean" chart without too much unwanted data :

 Dragon Age 2 Sales for all platfoerms (Americas & EMEAA)
[SNIP]

It's like a waterslide of fail~