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[Chewin]

Mesina2 wrote...

I'll still call him Paul Greyson even though he's isn't from the novel.
Why?






That's why.

Still think he resembles Paul the most.

[CroGamer002]

^Yeah, that.

[Battlepope190]

It almost seems as though Nigel is the sum of all British men; he looks like everyone!

[Lilunebrium]

Huh. It's mildly disturbing yet at the same time strangely fascinating what a 1:29 minute video can do to people's imagination. This is where I reveal the embarrassing fact of having started an entire new ME1->ME2 playthrough just for the odd-chance lovely Nigel will turn out to be more than just a redshirt/Kal'Reegar.

I mean, 89 seconds, and he's managed to trick my brain into thinking he has the potential of becoming the first ever (un)official male BioWare character to be right up my alley.

YOU TAKE HIM AWAY FROM ME, BIOWARE, AND I WILL NEVER BUY ANY BIOWARE CONTENT AGAIN I WILL PACK MY BATTLEAXE AND HURL MY ASS ACROSS THE POND I WILL... I WILL BE VERY, VERY CROSS WITH YOU.

(...But it's a good thing I'm not shallow, or anything.)

Really, though. Whoever did the cinematics of that trailer is brilliant.

[ThePwener]

Why do people keep saying he's in the game? They said he wasn't. How can you bend that to make it sound like... "maybe he is, we're not saying". This place is outright stupid sometimes.

[Battlepope190]

ThePwener wrote...

Why do people keep saying he's in the game? They said he wasn't. How can you bend that to make it sound like... "maybe he is, we're not saying". This place is outright stupid sometimes.

See:

ThePwener wrote...

Why do people keep saying he's in the game? They said he wasn't. How can you bend that to make it sound like... "maybe he is, we're not saying". This place is outright stupid sometimes.

He WILL be in ME3 in some form or another. And it will be GLORIOUS!

Modifié par Battlepope190, 13 septembre 2011 - 07:39 .

[Aoba]

First off, I am going to repost this over on Vega's thread, but nowhere else, at least for now. I'm not quite ready to jump right in and make my comment its very own thread. $1,000,000 says I'd eff up the formatting so bad the forum might just collapse on itself. It's happened in the past and whoooo, what a mess! And my family wonders why I tell 'em to never leave me alone in a shop full of extremely breakable items. It never ends well.

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SO, to the good stuff. I think I might've finally solved the debate of whether Big Ben is truly Vega by going over those old clues of Bioware's that were given to us from November to December of last year. You know, the clues that eventually led to the reveal of ME3?

I believe the clues still mean something, and this "something" leads me to believe Big Ben's name, profession, and squadmate status were hidden within; we just didn't have all the info back then to make sense of 'em like we do now. Leave it to Ms. Can't Leave Well Enough Alone to spend so much time investigating and then analysing stuff to death. Maker, I feel like I should be made honorary Queen of Sherlock Holmes' Fanclub after all this.

Oo, oo! Did you guys know Big Ben has a neck tattoo like Vega? At least it looks like a tattoo. It could be smudge marks, but they look way too smooth and curved. Also, I seriously doubt the marks could be natural curves/lines in the neck. I dunno, I'll let you guys be the judge.

and

Whilst my investigation may prove Vega is Big Ben, I can't prove the lad's VA as easily. Trust me, though, it's definitely Sam Worthington. Some say the nose knows, but in my case, the ears know. It's him. I'd bet $500 on it, too! Too bad I don't actually have $500 to bet. So sad.

Okay, here are some pics along with my own speculations. I won't consider this absolute proof until either a) Bioware admits to the ruse or  rewards me with a lemon cookie. Mmm, lemon cookies... dangit, now, I'm hungry.
 

1st clue:



Speculation:

First image we see of the gruff soldier soon to be nicknamed Nigel Fishnchips/Big Ben. It's pretty obvious he'd be a squadmate. He's too awesome not to be! Besides, since many of the clues Bioware gave us were about Big Ben/Vega, seems obvious he's not just some random NPC. He's the FOCUS in the PICTURE. Means he's IMPORTANT. He's also an Englishman, and OMG, trailer narrator! He's totally narrating his own experience, so, yeah, Big Ben's a squaddie in my eyes. Excuse me whilst I squee. SQUEE! Okay, I'm good.


[ Obvious clues have always been obvious. 2nd clue: 55.845; Speculation: Mass; 3rd clue: 128.5; Speculation: Fe ]


4th clue:



Speculation:

Vega's an MI6; hell, there's even a six on his alternate appearance armour; what else could it mean?


5th clue:



Speculation:

My brain believes The Clash - The Singles album cover is referencing this scene near the end of the ME3 debut trailer.

[ Album --> Screenshot of London ]

1. military-styled font in front of a broken circle with a star inside of the circle --> 1. military gunships in front of a broken clock's face with Vega inside of the clock's face

2. checkered border around half of the album [Up and Down] --> 2. checkered border around half of the clock's face [Left and Right] 

3. broken circle --> 3. broken clock's face

4. star surrounded by a broken circle, which is behind a military-styled font --> 4. Vega is surrounded by a broken clock's face, which is surrounded by military gunships

If you're wondering about the star --> Vega reference, I'll just quote from the Wiki:

Vega (α Lyr, α Lyrae, Alpha Lyrae) is the brightest star in the constellation Lyra, the fifth brightest star in the night sky and the second brightest star in the northern celestial hemisphere, after Arcturus. It is a relatively close star at only 25 light-years from Earth, and, together with Arcturus and Sirius, one of the most luminous stars in the Sun's neighborhood.

Vega has been extensively studied by astronomers, leading it to be termed "arguably the next most important star in the sky after the Sun."[8] Vega was the northern pole star around 12,000 BC and will be so again around AD 13,727 when the declination will be +86°14'. Vega was the first star other than the Sun to be photographed and the first to have its spectrum recorded.

6th clue:



Speculation:

"Sanders." Always knew something was fishy (hurr-hurr) when Vega's last name was changed; became even fishier when Mr. Hudson said Vega's name was never Sanders to begin with. It seems to me this name was given to several gaming magazine writers just so they could have something to work with until Bioware decided to let the fish out of the bag, ur, so-to-speak. Ah, the perfect red herring! I commend Bioware's ingenuity. 

So, there you have it. Speculation Central. Before I take my leave, have a pic of a tattoo'd Sam Worthington (it's from the movie Avatar) in a grey shirt and a Vegaesque haircut. Oh, did I mention he's Vega's VA? I think I did, but it never hurts to mention it again.



[ EDIT: Bolded some bits to make it easier to read (I hope). ]

Modifié par ACWolfe, 13 septembre 2011 - 09:13 .

[Lilunebrium]

ACWolfe wrote...

First off, I am going to repost this over on Vega's thread, but nowhere else, at least for now. I'm not quite ready to jump right in and make my comment its very own thread. $1,000,000 says I'd eff up the formatting so bad the forum might just collapse on itself. It's happened in the past and whoooo, what a mess! And my family wonders why I tell 'em to never leave me alone in a shop full of extremely breakable items. It never ends well.

*snip*

...You have no idea how giddy you made me feel with those speculations. I had completely forgotten about the clues! 

However, as much as I've just squeed at the thought that Big Ben really is going to be a squaddie, the pictures of his and Vega's neck side by side brought me down a notch. I can't fool myself into thinking it looks like a tattoo; it definitely looks like a smudge to me. Were it ink, I imagine the designers would have made it stand out more.

Then I looked at the first clue and cautiously optimistically figured that if BioWare had wanted to show a picture of the upcoming Mass Effect conclusion, they wouldn't show a redshirt first. Then again, Chris Priestly and a handful of other devs have made me paranoid enough that I can't say this for certain.

On another note; Sam Worthington as VA? Yes please. If he really does turn out to be the trailer narrator, colour me impressed, but the inner-skeptic is having her eyes narrowed at this.

[Redhot_1]

ThePwener wrote...

Why do people keep saying he's in the game? They said he wasn't. How can you bend that to make it sound like... "maybe he is, we're not saying". This place is outright stupid sometimes.

???

@ACWolfe Nice speculation there. I enjoyed reading it. But Casey has already said (via a PM to me) that Vega and Nigel isn't the same guy.

[Lilunebrium]

ThePwener wrote...

Why do people keep saying he's in the game? They said he wasn't. How can you bend that to make it sound like... "maybe he is, we're not saying". This place is outright stupid sometimes.

Celestina wrote...

http://www.livestrea...90-3ede03b2e667

At the 23:50 mark.

His answer to the twitter question asking about "Big Ben Sniper"

(grinning ear to ear) "Who is that guy? We'll have to find out..."

Then at the end of his answer - "So it's quite possible he is someone you will see in the game."

Which is another thing. Why would, and I'm not necessarily referring to Big Ben here, BioWare or any game developer for that matter be all vague about a character who's only going to appear in the marketing campaign, and not in the actual game itself? If that character is so unimportant, why not give a clear answer? Why create a marketing-only character at all?
I'm hardly an expert when it comes to promoting products, but I honestly don't see the point of it, aside from disappointing a lot of people.

Modifié par Lilunebrium, 13 septembre 2011 - 06:51 .

[Redhot_1]

Lilunebrium wrote...
Which is another thing. Why would, and I'm not necessarily referring to Big Ben here, BioWare or any game developer for that matter be all vague about a character who's only going to appear in the marketing campaign, and not in the actual game itself? If that character is so unimportant, why not give a clear answer? Why create a marketing-only character at all?
I'm hardly an expert when it comes to promoting products, but I honestly don't see the point of it, aside from disappointing a lot of people.

That's to make the people to keep on talking about the subject. Like the multiplayer for ME3,  there hasn't been a clear 'yes or no' answer. That's marketing to you.

[Lilunebrium]

Redhot_1 wrote...
That's to make the people to keep on talking about the subject. Like the multiplayer for ME3,  there hasn't been a clear 'yes or no' answer. That's marketing to you.

I can understand that method when it concerns a character who actually is going to be in the final product, but I can't imagine it doing anything other than biting the developer in the arse when it concerns a character who isn't going to be part of it.

That's like... selling orange juice claiming it has strawberries mixed in it as well, only for customers to find out it's just simple orange juice. Not that this particular orange juice isn't going to be ridiculously delicious, mind you. 

[Chewin]

Lilunebrium wrote...
That's like... selling orange juice claiming it has strawberries mixed in it as well, only for customers to find out it's just simple orange juice. Not that this particular orange juice isn't going to be ridiculously delicious, mind you.

I suddenly got the urge to go and buy some orange juice.

[Whyp_2]

Chewin3 wrote...

Lilunebrium wrote...
That's like... selling orange juice claiming it has strawberries mixed in it as well, only for customers to find out it's just simple orange juice. Not that this particular orange juice isn't going to be ridiculously delicious, mind you.

I suddenly got the urge to go and buy some orange juice.

I'm sensing a pun coming...

[Lilunebrium]

Anyone else who thinks the resemblance between Big Ben and James Vega (as he appears in Conviction) is uncanny?

I take back what I said in a previous post, ACWolfe. I really am starting be convinced Vega is indeed our Big Ben.

Edit: Here's a picture.

Modifié par Lilunebrium, 17 septembre 2011 - 08:03 .

[Chewin]

Nah, they confirmed already he isn't.

[catharsisboo]

Chewin3 wrote...

Nah, they confirmed already he isn't.

I take anything that BW "confirms" with a grain of salt. It usually ends with them changing their minds later on ("Legion will totally stalk you through the entirety of ME2, gaiz!" "Male Shepard is straight, gaiz!" "There won't be any new LIs, gaiz!").

Modifié par catharsisboo, 17 septembre 2011 - 10:44 .

[Nyreen]

[RAF1940]

datSilencer wrote...

Two potential squad mates with British accents. Ah, I'm a happy groundhog .

lol

[Nyreen]

Now you skeptics should know without a doubt Vega and Nigel are two different people from the new comic released. If Vega escorts Shepard to Earth, how can he be in London while Shepard is looking out from a ship? And if it is after the hearing, (Shepards not restrained by cuffs or otherwise in trailer), why would the narrator say " If Shepard doesn't get here soon...' of s/he had already been there?

Modifié par Celestina, 18 septembre 2011 - 02:54 .

[Ravensword]

Hmm, he kind of resembles "Soap" MacTavish, therefore I support Big Ben Sniper.

Modifié par Ravensword, 23 septembre 2011 - 12:12 .

[Battlepope190]

Ravensword wrote...

Hmm, he kind of resembles "Soap" MacTavish, therefore I support Big Ben Sniper.

>Soap
>Call of Duty
>why.png

Nigel is a far superior man.

[Ravensword]

Battlepope190 wrote...

Ravensword wrote...

Hmm, he kind of resembles "Soap" MacTavish, therefore I support Big Ben Sniper.

>Soap
>Call of Duty
>why.png

Nigel is a far superior man.

Well, at least he's not from New Zealand or else his name would be Nigel Fushnchups.

[Kathleen321]

ok I know this is a little late and I'm being a noob. But how did he get the name nigel fishnchips?

[JRCHOharry]

Kathleen321 wrote...

ok I know this is a little late and I'm being a noob. But how did he get the name nigel fishnchips?

Here's an explanation I did a few pages back..

JRCHOharry wrote...

Ghost Warrior wrote...

This might be a stupid question,but where did you get the name Nigel? Was it something from BioWare,is it a VA,or just something you guys came up with?

Something everyone just thought up.
Nigel is the most British name the BSN could come up with. Somehow Steve, Dave and Trevor didn't make the cut [smilie]http://social.bioware.com/images/forum/emoticons/tongue.png[/smilie]!
Fish'n'Chips = Because we English love it

and so, Nigel Fish'n'chips was born!