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[WOLF_00]

I disagree for legion. I expect there will be a better hardware Geth that has Legion memory transferred to it and different fighting & hacking skills.

[ExtremeOne]

well I will murder some alliance pricks to get them out

[didymos1120]

ExtremeOne wrote...

well I will murder some alliance pricks to get them out

That's nice.  You ever consider that they're likely to just be some average soldiers stuck on guard duty who had nothing to do with the decisions being made?  No, of course not.  That's not extreme.

[kyg_20X6]

Ashley/Kaiden: Likely a Spectre. Even if not, will either join you out of loyalty (if you disobeyed Cerberus) or as eyes & ears for the Alliance.

Liara: Come to your aid in trial. Joins you, uses SB assets to help. Obvious.

Garrus: Likely rejoins your squad. Nothing in ME1/2 really points towards anything in particular for Garrus.

Wrex: United Krogan. Genophage cure will come to light; Wrex will have to deal with it. Seemed Wrex wasn't really pro-cure so maybe another faction will show up. Maybe you can suggest cure against wishes. Who knows. Leading people, likely not long term squadmate (maybe 1 mission or something, like LotSB)

Tali: Likely replaces father as Admiral. Conversation choices in ME2 probably sway her to being pro- or anti-Geth. Either way, Xen will be causing conflict. Choice is stop or support. Probably won't be squadmate.

Miranda: Not sure. Even if you support Cerberus she seems unhappy. Honestly cannot say for sure how she will be treated. Pretty certain she won't be an squadmate.

Jacob: Same as above. Don't really care either.

Zaeed/Kasumi: Probably VERY limited role since DLC. Probably limited to dialogue or very weak quest.

Jack: Since Cerberus is fair game now Jack is likely going after them. Similar goals, possible LI, no responsibilities = good candidate for squadmate.

Grunt: Likely Krogan Warlord's right hand. Will show up in Genophage story. Almost certainly a temporary squaddie with possibility to be long-term as Krogan member.

Samara/Morinth: Morinth wouldn't come back to help, Samara is probably out Justicaring. Likely meet on some planet for dialogue or quest. Almost certainly won't be squadmate.

Thane: Dying. Months from death. Cure seems unlikey. Squadmate seems unlikely. Probably some sort of quest. Maybe help his son or the Hannar.

Legion: Geth side of Quarian war. You'll either be killing him or seeking aid. Possible long-term squadmate since if war finishes I don't think the Geth need his personal leadership (unlike Wrex, for example).

Just my opinion though.

BioWare have to factor: who could survive; who was popular; response if people don't get enough content (only 5-6 squadmates because others are dead); who has potential for more storyline; who fits their new direction; how many squadmates can they afford to add; should they risk adding several squadmates that many people might not be able to access (since they're dead), etc.

I think they'll have a core of around 5-6 (like ME1) that they know everyone will have access to and add 3-4 more that people might be able to get depending on how they finish ME2 (bringing squad size up to ME2).

Squad: James, Ashley/Kaiden, Liara, Garrus, Legion, Jack, Grunt, NEW, NEW, NEW, etc.

[CroGamer002]

WOLF_00 wrote...

I disagree for legion. I expect there will be a better hardware Geth that has Legion memory transferred to it and different fighting & hacking skills.

Why?
He's already most advance Geth unit.

[CroGamer002]

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Tali: Likely replaces father as Admiral. Conversation choices in ME2 probably sway her to being pro- or anti-Geth. Either way, Xen will be causing conflict. Choice is stop or support. Probably won't be squadmate.

Huge problem.
She can be exiled AND her leadership skills are not positively noted.

[Dean_the_Young]

Arcian wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Tali: Likely replaces father as Admiral.

NO. Absolutely goddamn no. She is not old enough. No one under 30 gets made an admiral, not in real life, not in the Alliance and not in the Migrant Fleet. This idea is bad and you should feel bad for thinking about it.

Tali wasn't really fit or experienced enough to be put in charge of the missions she was in charge of in ME1 either, but they did so. But Tali's something of a superstar in the Quarian polity.

Now, while I certainly couldn't think of a real life, modern-day public figure who assumed a position of great importance and influence over the alternative of a number of older, more experienced rivals despite a significant lack of successful leadership history and numerous charges of 'too young', or 'black',or 'too unexperienced', we should keep in mind that this is a fictional world we're talking about...

[CroGamer002]

^And she can be exiled while still be loyal and romancable.

Modifié par Mesina2, 29 avril 2011 - 02:08 .

[Someone With Mass]

Arcian wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Tali: Likely replaces father as Admiral.

NO. Absolutely goddamn no. She is not old enough. No one under 30 gets made an admiral, not in real life, not in the Alliance and not in the Migrant Fleet. This idea is bad and you should feel bad for thinking about it.

Tali is not good leader-material, period.

I really don't understand why everyone thinks it's a good idea. Just because it's mentioned in-game doesn't make it a good idea either.

[Dean_the_Young]

Mesina2 wrote...

^And she can be exiled while still be loyal and romancable.

If she's exiled (or dead), she can be replaced with a stand-in for the roll. It's ME3: they can go as wild as they want now without having to worry about carry-over for the next game.

[TomY90]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Arcian wrote...

kyg_20X6 wrote...

Tali: Likely replaces father as Admiral.

NO. Absolutely goddamn no. She is not old enough. No one under 30 gets made an admiral, not in real life, not in the Alliance and not in the Migrant Fleet. This idea is bad and you should feel bad for thinking about it.

Tali is not good leader-material, period.

I really don't understand why everyone thinks it's a good idea. Just because it's mentioned in-game doesn't make it a good idea either.

they gave  a big old hint that she will be on the admiral board for the migrant fleet if she if not exiled so I say she is not a good leader but i see it happening

[CroGamer002]

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^And she can be exiled while still be loyal and romancable.

If she's exiled (or dead), she can be replaced with a stand-in for the roll. It's ME3: they can go as wild as they want now without having to worry about carry-over for the next game.

You do know that exiled Tali is loyal and can be romanced?

[Someone With Mass]

TomY90 wrote...
they gave  a big old hint that she will be on the admiral board for the migrant fleet if she if not exiled so I say she is not a good leader but i see it happening

Oh well. Certainly wouldn't be the first stupid decision the quarians have made.

[Dean_the_Young]

Mesina2 wrote...

Dean_the_Young wrote...

Mesina2 wrote...

^And she can be exiled while still be loyal and romancable.

If she's exiled (or dead), she can be replaced with a stand-in for the roll. It's ME3: they can go as wild as they want now without having to worry about carry-over for the next game.

You do know that exiled Tali is loyal and can be romanced?

Yes. And it doesn't stop them from using non-exiled Tali (romanced or not) as an Admiral figure if they so choose. A romance character is in no sense required to be a party member with Shepard at or throughout the game (see: Thane). 

If Tali is exiled, use setup A. If Tali is not exiled, use setup B. They can do this if they wish (even if I doubt they will).

[Fiery Phoenix]

Wait, you can romance an exiled Tali?

[Someone With Mass]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Wait, you can romance an exiled Tali?

If you withhold the evidence without using the Paragon/Renegade options, yes.

Modifié par Someone With Mass, 29 avril 2011 - 03:06 .

[Clonedzero]

as long as i can roll with garrus through 80% of the game like i did for ME1 and ME2 ill be happy.

[Dean_the_Young]

Fiery Phoenix wrote...

Wait, you can romance an exiled Tali?

The only Tali you can't romance (as a male Shep) is an unloyal Tali. The only ways to have an unloyal Tali are  to (a) side with Legion after gaining the loyalty of both, or ( out Tali's father, leaving her un-exiled but unloyal.

[Khambilo]

The OPs list is actually pretty good. I mostly agree with it but just a couple issues.

Legion: I don't think he'll stay with you from start to finish. He was never "loyal" to Shepard in the strictest sense of the word. What I see is Legion returning to the Geth and later serving as a sort of ambassador for Shepard to the Geth (depending of course on certain choices). Probably a temporary squaddie, but will mostly be working behind the scenes, sort of like the suggestion about Mordin.

Zaeed: Probably won't work for the Shadow Broker. Cameo role though. I could see something like a cameo mission where he's a temporary squaddie. For example, you run into him in a shady bar somewhere and he's in some hostile negotiations with another Merc. You help him out with his problems on a mission and he helps you out in another way.

Kasumi: Another cameo. Kasumi's a bit of a free spirit, so she probably wouldn't work for the Shadow Broker unless its freelance and for a very short period of time. What I see as more likely would be having Kasumi contact you saying that she stumbled upon some sensitive information while on one of her inflitration/thieving gigs and wants to give it to him. You do a mission with her to retrieve it and it's all very reminiscent of the Hock heist.

[Khambilo]

Arcian wrote...

I don't know where you're gething this from. His whole "We used your armor to fix ourselves"-schtick suggests he has some major hard-on for Shepard. I honestly believe he was built specifically to communicate and travel with Shepard, which is the reason why he has not contacted any organic prior to meeting Shep on the derelict reaper.

An interesting theory, but there's not much evidence for it in game, which I suppose makes your theory as valid as mine.  Point is, Legion's loyalties will always lie with the Geth first, which considering the events of ME 3 that we know of already makes it more likely the Legion will return to Geth than stay with Shepard and be on the squad.

[CroGamer002]

^But why would he return?

His sole purpose was to investigate Shepard after he/she died.

[The Unfallen]

Mesina, what about Joker? No love for Joker? Or Chakwas? Or Gabby or Kenny?