Oh, sure. They probably had a reason to write it that way.Almostfaceman wrote...
Eh, don't think so, I think it's more just a case of sometimes the writers give in to the urge to force the analysis of an argument from both sides just so they can get their point across story-wise.
Almostfaceman wrote...
Unless you've polled every single person on this forum, you don't know the majority of any opinion here.
Kinda the point of an RPG, making decisions where some of them hurt.
The Collector Base obviously has the ethical value of any other site where humans have been slain by the millions, such as Auschwitz.
I like the line, because we're focused on character. That is, after all, what most of your choices reflect, what type of character you're building into your Shepard. What we will do and what will we not do when presented with tough choices, that's the appeal of the game. That's how it was marketed.
I like the line because it's an opportunity to say "the quick and easy path is the path to the Dark Side, and I will not take it."
KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Play Paragade man. You avoid being a self-righteous douchebag, and a a-hole. Most of the time.
Nyoka wrote...
Well, it's a real argument. Look for instance at how the convention on the prohibition of biological weapons addresses such ban:"...Determined for the sake of all mankind, to exclude completely the possibility of bacteriological (biological) agents and toxins being used as weapons,
Convinced that such use would be repugnant to the conscience of mankind and that no effort should be spared to minimize this risk,
Have agreed as follows.
It doesn't give practical reasons for the ban. What it essentially says is "we're not the kind of people who would use such things, so we agree to the ban". So as far as reality goes, it's not that bad a line. You don't like it, okay, you don't have to. But there's a difference between not liking something and something being bad.
As for "The collector base has no ethical value", well, I'd say a machine that is explicitly designed to use people as raw material really has ethical value. It's practically the same thing the Lotus Assasins used to do in Jade Empire. They would kill peasants (colonists) and collect their souls (DNA) in order to animate jade golems (Reapers).
Gabey5 wrote...
did you expect him to write an essay? time was an issue
Modifié par Markinator_123, 28 avril 2011 - 08:28 .
Amen.LiquidGrape wrote...
TIM: "Cerberus isn't as evil as you think."
Now that is a poor line.
LiquidGrape wrote...
TIM: "Cerberus isn't as evil as you think."
Now that is a poor line.
Markinator_123 wrote...
Either you have been watching too much Star Wars or have had idealogical BS shoved down your throat. Nonetheless who cares about how many people died there? Those people are dead! You can't save them! At this point, you can only worry about the living and yes the base does have the potential to save many lives or destroy many lives. That should be what the decision should come down to. If you're destroying the base because it is tainted, then I hope you also destroyed the genophage data as well since it came from brutal and immoral experiments.
Guest_Nyoka_*
I don't have psychic powers to read people's minds. I stick to tangible evidence about reasons stated not to use certain kinds of resources. If you think they are lying, that's okay. I only said that this kind of reasons exist in real life, so as far as reality goes it's not that bad a line. Maybe Shepard is lying as well and have her own reasons to do that, I don't know.KnightofPhoenix wrote...
Except it's only typical political white wash and embellishment, but the practical reasons are there and the countries who signed the treaty did so for those practical reasons. Which could include avoiding another type of arms race, preserving the status-quo, not allowing weaker nations to develop weapons like this as cheaper substitutes for nuclear warheads and deterrents ("poor man's nuke" in political science lit)....etc
Unless Shepard is worried about his prestige and international standing, using that as an argument is very weak.
Guest_thurmanator692_*
You ain't got nothin on meSkilled Seeker wrote...
Screw Paragades. Renegon is the way to be.
Guest_Nyoka_*
Because being cynical makes you look cool.Mesina2 wrote...
I still don't see how is that line bad.
Modifié par Nyoka, 28 avril 2011 - 08:40 .
AdmiralCheez wrote...
Amen.LiquidGrape wrote...
TIM: "Cerberus isn't as evil as you think."
Now that is a poor line.
Modifié par LiquidGrape, 28 avril 2011 - 08:45 .
Guest_ShadowJ20_*
Nyoka wrote...
Because being cynical makes you look cool.Mesina2 wrote...
I still don't see how is that line bad.
Guest_Nyoka_*
I'm not against an additional, neutral choice that would have made Shepard say "Keep it? And hand it to Cerberus? I'm not that crazy." or something along those lines. That dialogue only has two options, and it could have had three. I agree on that.Markinator_123 wrote...
Nyoka wrote...
Because being cynical makes you look cool.Mesina2 wrote...
I still don't see how is that line bad.
and being recklessly idealistic is not
Modifié par Nyoka, 28 avril 2011 - 08:57 .
LiquidGrape wrote...
TIM: "Cerberus isn't as evil as you think."
Now that is a poor line.
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