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[neppakyo]

So, this DAO Madhatter guy is for real?

Well, looks like he'll make a fine edition to the DA2 defend at all costs camp. Comes across worse than the spamming people who hate DA2.

DA2 wasnt that good of a game. It was ok, decent. Average. the idea for the story was cool, but it was executed poorly, along with the barren dead city, and blatant recycling of areas, the useless waves and combat on meth.

You'll have to wait to see how TOR will do. If TOR tanks, theres a good chance bioware will be gone. Been hearing around $100 million has been sunk into the dev (servers and other junk that goes with a MMORPG).

Wait and see. *shrugs*

[Frybread76]

LOL.  You DA2 fangirls are pathetic.  DA2 has fallen short of expectations and only has sold as much as it has because of that big first week, which was due to DA:O.

Expect DA2 to not sell anywhere near as much as DA:O.  But please, go ahead and buy all the $5 and $10 DLC EA/Bioware shovels down your ugly mouths.

[mordarwarlock]

[Edit: leave out the pyramid quotes, please; thanks]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

but the majority of the time im right in my asumption. Im willing to take the risk. I have no dignaty, so being wrong isnt gonna affect me. & I dont care if I look like an ass for posting said responce cause I am an ass. Its as simple as that.

damn right yoB)

*giggles*

Modifié par Kevin Lynch, 29 avril 2011 - 12:16 .

[SoccerPlayer]

[Edit: try leaving out the pyramid quotes; thanks]

mordarwarlock wrote...
damn right yoB)

*giggles*

The OP is a troll that is trying to get our attention with his unsupported hate for DA3 and nothing to back it up. 

Modifié par Kevin Lynch, 29 avril 2011 - 12:15 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

neppakyo wrote...

So, this DAO Madhatter guy is for real?

Well, looks like he'll make a fine edition to the DA2 defend at all costs camp. Comes across worse than the spamming people who hate DA2.

DA2 wasnt that good of a game. It was ok, decent. Average. the idea for the story was cool, but it was executed poorly, along with the barren dead city, and blatant recycling of areas, the useless waves and combat on meth.

You'll have to wait to see how TOR will do. If TOR tanks, theres a good chance bioware will be gone. Been hearing around $100 million has been sunk into the dev (servers and other junk that goes with a MMORPG).

Wait and see. *shrugs*

4chan/Codex/Metacritic Troll.

[Melca36]

ARustyFirePlace wrote...

I think EA are gonna get Bioware to only focus on ME and, if it des well, that new Star Wars MMO.

Hopefully we get some more patches and expansion packs, but EA will probably stop support for this game and fire the guys who made it now.

I think DA:2 will make enough and I have no doubt there will be a DA:3

EA kept the SIMS ONLINE running for four years.....

That game cost millions to develop and was a HUGE flop

[neppakyo]

Whats codex? Never heard of that one.

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

neppakyo wrote...

Whats codex? Never heard of that one.

You can't hide from me.

Been lurking Codex on/off since like 2008.



Personally, this year will be really important to what happens to Bioware.

ME 3, SWTOR. At least one of them needs to be a hit. Both if Bioware want to expand instead of shrink.

If SWTOR or ME 3 fails to be a hit, I can imagine some really big layoffs unless the other is uber successful.

If both bomb, expect big layoffs.

I hope not, Bioware is a good company. But EA... well, history speaks for itself.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 29 avril 2011 - 12:28 .

[OdanUrr]

I have a prediction, it concerns the future of this thread and rhymes with "cajun." Seriously, let's try and stay on topic.

According to Mike Laidlaw, Dragon Age won't experience a 180-degree turn again (it would have been funny if he'd said it'd experience a 360-degree turn though), so DA3 won't experience a return to DAO. Rather, I think DA3 will be similar to ME3 in the sense of fine tuning some of the elements players most appreciated from the first game (control over inventory seems to be an issue for both ME2 and DA2, and it seems devs are bringing back mods/upgrades for ME3). In this regard, it is possible that DA3 will let you control all of your party's inventory, clothing included (I understand the 'objection' that players would want to equip all party members with the toughest armours, probably leading to everyone looking the same, but that should still remain the players' decision).

On a second note, not all changes were for the worst. I played Jade Empire and enjoyed it despite its limitations and its close third-person camera, mainly because of the depth of the story, with its many twists and turns, and an outstanding OST, not to mention colourful and varied locations. If Bioware takes a leaf from Jade Empire and puts some of the stuff that made DAO great into DA3, then maybe the future isn't so bleak after all.

Modifié par OdanUrr, 29 avril 2011 - 12:29 .

[Everwarden]

DAO MAdhatter wrote...
Im so sick of this! Da 2 was good. It got good reviews. it made tons of money. Just cause it wasnt DAO 2 doesnt mean that it will tank, if ever.  Got it, your fanboyism isnt gonna make Bioware wann achange it back, & since your such a small part of the over all crowd that liked this game, they wont miss your money.
 

Yep. Tons of money. That's why prices are being cut down to next to nothing and they are giving away another game to boost sales. 

Seriously, check your facts before you spout nonsense like that. 

[neppakyo]

mrcrusty wrote...

neppakyo wrote...

Whats codex? Never heard of that one.

You can't hide from me.

Been lurking Codex on/off since like 2008.



Personally, this year will be really important to what happens to Bioware.

ME 3, SWTOR. At least one of them needs to be a hit. Both if Bioware want to expand instead of shrink.

If SWTOR or ME 3 fails to be a hit, I can imagine some really big layoffs unless the other is uber successful.

If both bomb, expect big layoffs.

I hope not, Bioware is a good company. But EA... well, history speaks for itself.

Seriously, whats codex. I take it you don't mean the codex entries in DA . I know what 4chan is.

[Seena]

blah blah blah {insert your overly emo predictions of doom here - even though DA3 is in the works}

Man - 0- mano. Some people should step away from the computer and watch tv.

[Tommy6860]

Seena wrote...

blah blah blah {insert your overly emo predictions of doom here - even though DA3 is in the works}

Man - 0- mano. Some people should step away from the computer and watch tv.

But then, you could only troll yourself to find something you don't like on TV ! Besides, there are no good RP aspects on on TV where one dreams of being the star, and American Id(iot)ol  doesn't count.

Modifié par Tommy6860, 29 avril 2011 - 01:26 .

[Slayer299]

neppakyo wrote...
Seriously, whats codex. I take it you don't mean the codex entries in DA . I know what 4chan is.

I believe he is referring to the RPGCodex discussion board, I could be wrong though.

[MJRick]

Frybread76 wrote...

LOL.  You DA2 fangirls are pathetic.  DA2 has fallen short of expectations and only has sold as much as it has because of that big first week, which was due to DA:O.

Expect DA2 to not sell anywhere near as much as DA:O.  But please, go ahead and buy all the $5 and $10 DLC EA/Bioware shovels down your ugly mouths.

You Mad Bro?

[oldmansavage]

Seems like Volourn has some competition for the alpha drone slot.

[AlanC9]

Everwarden wrote...
Yep. Tons of money. That's why prices are being cut down to next to nothing and they are giving away another game to boost sales. 

Seriously, check your facts before you spout nonsense like that. 

If we're talking about facts, the only important one is profitability. DA2's not going to sell as well as DAO, but it didn't cost as much. Beyond that... beats me. Do you have enough facts to determine DA2's profitability? Or DAO's?

[Everwarden]

AlanC9 wrote...
 DA2's not going to sell as well as DAO, but it didn't cost as much. 

True. -But- over half of the sales were in the first week, and that was largely people buying because of Origins. They can't expect DA3 or DA4 to ride the momentum of customers assuming they'll make a good product. 

[Tantum Dic Verbo]

AlanC9 wrote...

Everwarden wrote...
Yep. Tons of money. That's why prices are being cut down to next to nothing and they are giving away another game to boost sales. 

Seriously, check your facts before you spout nonsense like that. 

If we're talking about facts, the only important one is profitability. DA2's not going to sell as well as DAO, but it didn't cost as much. Beyond that... beats me. Do you have enough facts to determine DA2's profitability? Or DAO's?

I'd say there's another factor to consider: how much drag the DA2 reaction may have on DA3's profitability.  It will be interesting to see how Bioware approaches PR and advertising for DA3.

My guess is that DA3 will be a much more polished version of DA2, with varied environments and some of the more common complaints scrubbed out.  The infrastructure is already in place for something like that, and a very good game could probably be turned out relatively quickly using that approach.  If they go that way, I wonder if they'll try to patch things up with some of the disgruntled long-term fans or just go full steam ahead with their design philosophy.

[AlanC9]

Everwarden wrote...

AlanC9 wrote...
 DA2's not going to sell as well as DAO, but it didn't cost as much. 

True. -But- over half of the sales were in the first week, and that was largely people buying because of Origins. They can't expect DA3 or DA4 to ride the momentum of customers assuming they'll make a good product. 

How much of their sales do sequels typically do in the first week? What was ME2's percentage?

Incidentally, I'm not certain DA2 prices are dropping as much as you implied earlier. There have been some big sales, but  I'm seeing a lot of places list it at $50, which is comparable if not more than what DAO was selling for at this point in its lifecycle.

Edit: rather than "more" I should say a higher percentage of the original list price. 

Modifié par AlanC9, 29 avril 2011 - 04:28 .

[AlanC9]

Tantum Dic Verbo wrote...

I'd say there's another factor to consider: how much drag the DA2 reaction may have on DA3's profitability.  It will be interesting to see how Bioware approaches PR and advertising for DA3.

My guess is that DA3 will be a much more polished version of DA2, with varied environments and some of the more common complaints scrubbed out.  The infrastructure is already in place for something like that, and a very good game could probably be turned out relatively quickly using that approach.  If they go that way, I wonder if they'll try to patch things up with some of the disgruntled long-term fans or just go full steam ahead with their design philosophy.

Good points. If I were them I'd play it something like Coke did with New Coke. Walk back to a somewhat more traditional design for DA3, and then do the followup design the way they want. I'd seriously consider retiring the DA name after DA3, though, since it's mostly a liability now. I suppose that means they'll have to put back companion armor fiddling.

Edit: for clarity, my understanding of what happened with Coke is that they abandoned New Coke but then gradually reformulated Coke until it's pretty much indistinguishable now from what New Coke was then.

[UltiPup]

On the pro side, you have people calling people trolls. On the anti side, you have people calling people trolls.

Why don't you just get along? You have so many of the same interests. Like, misusing the word troll.

Modifié par UltiPup, 29 avril 2011 - 06:03 .

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Trololololol.