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[hangmans tree]

Hi there.
I red somewhat interesting interview with the RED team leaders about TW2. Some of the statements got me thinking.

CDP (dev) is curently looking for a publisher but they do not want to do business with giants like EA which micromanage the "partnership". They are on the lookout for someone minor for whom TW2 would be a priority, and TW2 edition will be the same all over the world. No censoreship, no different inbox content (like the list on wiki) due to the countries policies and whatnot. Rich, and packed as Enchaced Edition for polish market.

Engine - they are making (made?) an engine tailored for rpgs

The Witcher 2 uses CD Projekt's internal,
multi-platform engine, which is focused not only on the renderer and
physics, but on non-linear quest design. CD Projekt founders believe
that it will be in the vanguard among game engines, and especially RPG
engines.
after www.polygamia.pl

Building realistic, living and belivable worlds, building the plot, continuity of quests, non linearity, all connections between them that affect eachother is what count the most.RPGs have much complicated logic structure - they say that their technology is made to create that kinds of games...
If anyone saw the Ingromir 2009 presentation of TW2 (closed, for buiseness, and yet leaked again) you can see jumping over fences and other obstacles, and even climbing! No transition when walking into a house - Geralt went straight through open door from the yard into someones house and exit by the back door...NPC follow their everyday rutines, they react to Geralts actions or even hes presence.

NO DRM policy. CDP is trying to fight with all drmish policies. Good Old Games is a flagship in this field. Alas, gog.com wont sell any new games coz western publishers corporate policies wont allow publishing their games without DRMs. But step by step this is changing. In Q1 2010 there will be a breaktrough - some of the titles of one of 3 biggest publishers will be available. DRM free of course.
They belive games shouldnt be protected - thus GOG and future projects such as TW2  I suppose.

They hope The Witcher 2: Assassins of Kings to be a "breakthrough RPG" and to score at least 90% on metacritic . And the story is said to be even more compelling and non linear (choices/consequences of course).

Wouldnt you say that this is a desirable course/direction? What do you think?

I wish any future BIOWARE rpg will be based on such an engine! Shame this couldnt be done with Dragon Age can you imagine the outcome? 127% on metacritic?

[Mordaedil]

You do know the Witcher used the Aurora engine, right? Which was from Bioware?

[hangmans tree]

Yes, but it was so heavy rebuilt that it almost has no resemblance to aurora it was restrictive in many ways.

[Prexxus]

The leaked video looked pretty cool. Honestly The Witcher was one of the best rpgs ive ever played. I would buy the second game in an instant just for the story. The new engine is just the cherry on top

[Vaeliorin]

While I enjoyed the Witcher (still haven't beaten it, it ran pretty terribly on my old PC, and I just got my new one today) and the leaked video does look quite awesome, my issue lies in the fact that the Witcher isn't an RPG, it's an action game, at least mechanically. And as awesome as their new engine is, if it doesn't allow for non-clickfest gaming and a party, it will never, in my eyes, be a premier RPG engine.

[hangmans tree]

Opinions, opinions. Only difference in mechanics is that you have to click in realtime...which shifts stress from planing in pause to reacting at given moment. A small feature, yet you wouldnt call TW a RPG? Well, I would.

[Daemongar]

Well, by some defnitions then Gothic wasn't an RPG, Oblivion, Morrowind, Sacred, System Shock 1 & 2(!), Fallout 3 weren't either.
Honestly, TW isn't exactly Doom or Diablo, or even Dungeon Seige, there is a lot of room for character development and different branches, stats, and combat styles based on ones preference. While I understand being reticent to purchase "action" rpg's, this argument was over once Diablo sold millions of copies, and that was over 10 years ago. It's how the market is and how it attracts new gamers.
I love and still play Wasteland and Fallout 1 & 2, and still seek their ilk out, but I wonder if it was natural progression that cRPG's that are more in tune with pnp RPG's were dying, or if developers were scared away from them by the poor sales of PS:T and Arcanum...

Modifié par Daemongar, 19 novembre 2009 - 03:39 .

[SheffSteel]

As far as I'm concerned the Witcher fits more or less exactly into my definition of a role-playing game. The exact nature of the combat system doesn't change that, nor does the lack of choice of character.

I will buy the sequel no matter what.

[Akka le Vil]

Their policies alone have guaranteed that I'll buy their game if they stick with them.

Modifié par Akka le Vil, 19 novembre 2009 - 05:22 .

[Althernai]

The Witcher was an action RPG. There is nothing particularly wrong with that (Bioware has done its share of them too), but I most certainly wouldn't want to see Dragon Age made with such an engine. Action RPGs are a plentiful while tactical RPGs are rare (and even moderately challenging ones are rarer still).



Leaving that aside, I wish CDP good luck. There are not that many makers of Western RPGs left and CDP is among the few which are not so established that they can't do something radically different.

[hangmans tree]

Methinks that this kind of engine would allow making tactical game as well. I wonder how elstic it really is and what are its capabilities.



Its multiplatform as well, designed to introduce the game(s) to console players as well. Nad as the rumor goes, after finishin TW2, CDP will revive Return of the White Wolf project and finish it which will be easier with the experience from TW2.



As for the genre. For me TW and DAO are the same - cRPGs. Most what I want I get from the story and art design. Mechanics and the playstyle are a secondary factor for me (I was risen on pnp rpgs and I still play). Not less important but secondary.

[Ildin]

hangmans tree wrote...

Methinks that this kind of engine would allow making tactical game as well. I wonder how elstic it really is and what are its capabilities.

Its multiplatform as well, designed to introduce the game(s) to console players as well. Nad as the rumor goes, after finishin TW2, CDP will revive Return of the White Wolf project and finish it which will be easier with the experience from TW2.

As for the genre. For me TW and DAO are the same - cRPGs. Most what I want I get from the story and art design. Mechanics and the playstyle are a secondary factor for me (I was risen on pnp rpgs and I still play). Not less important but secondary.

I concur with the entirety of this.

[Lord Grimnar_AzurieL]

hangmans tree wrote...

....They are on the lookout for someone minor for whom TW2 would be a priority, and TW2 edition will be the same all over the world. No censoreship, no different inbox content (like the list on wiki) due to the countries policies and whatnot. Rich, and packed as Enchaced Edition for polish market. .....

 i hope that its get through the aussie censorship board then.... seeing as a certain politician (who will remain nameless) seems hell bent on destroying gamers good games... we can have "r" rated games and ALOT of the MA and M rated games are heavily modified for aussie shores..... the sooner they get rid of this fruitloop the better

[Lord Grimnar_AzurieL]

hangmans tree wrote...

....They are on the lookout for someone minor for whom TW2 would be a priority, and TW2 edition will be the same all over the world. No censoreship, no different inbox content (like the list on wiki) due to the countries policies and whatnot. Rich, and packed as Enchaced Edition for polish market. .....

 i hope that its get through the aussie censorship board then.... seeing as a certain politician (who will remain nameless) seems hell bent on destroying gamers good games... we can have "r" rated games and ALOT of the MA and M rated games are heavily modified for aussie shores..... the sooner they get rid of this fruitloop the better