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[Gamer Ftw]

How can that possibly end well?

[GSSAGE7]

By not forcing Alistair to be King?
If you kill Loghain, but let Anora be Queen, I think that works rather well, especially if Alistair is unhardened.
This is assuming that you view being his mistress (which you can do if you want to harden him), as"ending well.

Modifié par GSSAGE7, 29 avril 2011 - 02:01 .

[DragonRacer13]

It can. My first playthrough was rather miraculous in hindsight. Dalish elf who romanced Alistair and didn't harden him. He adamantly didn't want to be king, so she executed Loghain and put Anora on the throne alone. My elf and Alistair then ran off into the sunset to be adventuring Grey Wardens together.

But yeah, there's definitely more heartbreaking pitfalls with an elf or mage... I think what I described above was the only real happy ending for either of those, and I happened upon it by happenstance.

[Wulfram]

A boyfriend who can kill you if you turn into an abomination is handy?

[GSSAGE7]

Wulfram wrote...
A boyfriend who can kill you if you turn into an abomination is handy?

Well which love interest couldn't? Leliana, Zevran, and Morrigan are all strong fighters, could probably take you down if you were posessed, and about to go on a killing spree.

[Addai]

I consider elf mage mistress to King Alistair my canon ending. It's not perfect, but none of them are. And the mage-templar tension is so sweet/ hot. Female mage is the only PC that he flirts with off the bat in Ostagar. It's adorable.

[maxernst]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

How can that possibly end well?

By that reasoning, why would anyone romance Morrigan?  You romance Alistair as an elf or mage because the your Warden finds him appealing.  If it turns out badly, it turns out badly.

[Wulfram]

GSSAGE7 wrote...

Wulfram wrote...
A boyfriend who can kill you if you turn into an abomination is handy?

Well which love interest couldn't? Leliana, Zevran, and Morrigan are all strong fighters, could probably take you down if you were posessed, and about to go on a killing spree.

They aren't specifcally trained for it, while Alistair is.  And the Warden would no doubt be a pretty tough abomination.

[ejoslin]

It doesn't end any differently for dwarves you know. I guess my Princess Aeducan knew what was going down as soon as she heard who his father was, but that's metagaming at its finest.

Modifié par ejoslin, 29 avril 2011 - 03:36 .

[Maria13]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

How can that possibly end well?

Alistair may have trained as a Templar and he may be an Andrastian but he is certainly not a Chantrian (one who believes in the tenets of the Chantry), he's left the Chantry with a healthy dose of scepticism as regards its dogma, as you see after making love with him for the first time and he comments that he should have been struck dead by lightening. This actually makes him a very compatible partner for an elf or a mage or an Elven mage, even a dwarf.

In fact, Leliana is much more of a Chantrian than he.

Modifié par Maria13, 29 avril 2011 - 03:43 .

[GSSAGE7]

Maria13 wrote...
Alistair may have trained as a Templar and he may be an Andrastian but he is certainly not a Chantrian (one who believes in the tenets of the Chantry), he's left the Chantry with a healthy dose of scepticism as regards its dogma, as you see after making love with him for the first time and he comments that he should have been struck dead by lightening. This actually makes him a very compatible partner for an elf or a mage or an Elven mage, even a dwarf.

In fact, Leliana is much more of a Chantrian than he.

What does religion have to do with the discussion? I'm pretty sure this is supposed to be based on him being heir to the throne.

[Addai]

Elves can also be Andrastian. I rp'ed my elf mage as quite a devout Andrastian, though I suspect that as Warden and then as chancellor/ mistress she learned the fine arts of moral compromise.

[yaw]

I'm not sure what I would had preferred as an ending.

Hardening him and putting him on the throne (not with Anora: that's just not an option), and having to break up with him would have been the worst. Staying on as mistress wouldn't have been much better, as his likely to marry and have children anyway. 

Leaving him unhardened and running off into the sunset is more attractive, but then I'd miss out on seeing Alistair all kingly and majestic in the end. And I'd have to put that cow on the throne, and I really wouldn't want people to honor the memory of Loghain.

Dying and leaving him alone and heartbroken is the only other option, it seems.



then BAM.
Hello, Zevran.

My canon ending? 
Swipe Alistair's v-card, dump him, put him on the throne, dance off hand in hand with Zev. 

Modifié par yaw, 29 avril 2011 - 04:21 .

[yaw]

Addai67 wrote...

Elves can also be Andrastian.

*City elves. Or at least elves who have become City elves.

[Addai]

yaw wrote...

Addai67 wrote...

Elves can also be Andrastian.

*City elves. Or at least elves who have become City elves.

Yes, including mages.

[Yankee23]

I love the ending where my elf mage and Alistair run off together. Imo, for any origin, it's one of the happiest endings you can get on an Alistair romance. It's perfectly reasonable for a non human noble warden (and even then) to not care or feel that Alistair needs to rule. The only problem that still effects them on a run away together ending is the no kids thing, but unless Alistair is king the pressure to produce an heir is off.

That said, my cannon is hnf married to Alistair but I personally believe there will no heir anyway, so why not be happy!

Modifié par Yankee23, 29 avril 2011 - 05:09 .

[Corker]

Yankee23 wrote...

 The only problem that still effects them on a run away together ending is the no kids thing,

Well, that and the Old God Baby, which you'll have to agree to to get this ending.  Even if it doesn't bother the Warden, I rather expect that ghost to haunt Alistair.

[Gamer Ftw]

Hmm It's clear in how Alistair goes on about Morrigan being an apostate that he does have problems with mages.
And If I was female I wouldn't really want a man who would put the daughter of someone he hated on the throne just because he was afraid to rule.

Modifié par Gamer Ftw, 29 avril 2011 - 09:09 .

[Addai]

Alistair has a problem with Morrigan, not with mages.

He will grudgingly admit that Anora is a good queen if hardened, and not so grudgingly if unhardened. He doesn't trust her, but doesn't consider himself qualified either.

[Merilsell]

Because it is more interesting this way?

Personally, I'm quite bored by the generic Cousland/Alistair pairing and I love the conflict and drama the elf/human pairing contains a lot more. I have always the feeling to have work harder for their relationship and in the end if everything works out, it is damn gratifying. Overcoming all the obstacles is simply worth it. (which is why my Canon is F!Mahariel/Alistair, obviously) And who said it has to end in dramaz at all? I can have my cake and eat it too, you know

Alistair is happier as a Warden anyway and I couldn't care less for Ferelden's politic. Also giving Eamon the finger gives me every time a warm fuzzy feeling inside.

It is a win-win situation.

Modifié par Merilsell, 29 avril 2011 - 10:05 .

[frostajulie]

swipe his V card Ye-ah!

As a Dalish elf my PC romanced him and did that thinking here was a human worthy of honor, then she finds out hes the only surviving hier to the throne (she did redcliffe after the tower and Orzammar) so she freaked out and said she hardly knew him, she was not even aware that was a break up line when she said it.  To be honest I was upset at first but then rp'd her as becoming a lyrium addict (this explained the new wardrobe style and hairstyle she got when I started playing in the toolset) with suicidal tendencies, she was totally going to US but then Zev saved her and she let Ali take the killing blow.  If you do redcliff late you can have a really good romance that ends tragically and still have time to romance Zev or leiliana.

[thesuperdarkone]

Good thing I don't play females and have to deal with all this drama. But now Morrigan left me D:

[Nerdage]

Doesn't have to end well to be a good story. It's an RPG, not just a challenge to be beaten; metagaming to get the "best" ending. If you die to kill the arch demon it doesn't mean you've failed the game, it's just what happens, just as Alistair leaving you to become king doesn't mean you've failed the romance.

Modifié par nerdage, 29 avril 2011 - 10:59 .

[Skadi_the_Evil_Elf]

Happy endings are possible with any race or class. Alistair does not have to be king (nor does he really want it). And running off into the sunset works well. Or one can continue as his mistress if hardened, and not all would find this a bad set up.

I actually like his romance the best with non-Human nobles.