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[Agamo45]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

whether America loves or hates me doesn't matter. It was once great, but now it's incredibly flawed.


Just like the Chantry!

I would agree with you. Decades ago, America was a utopia of freedom and prosperity. Now she's turned into a trashheap and getting worse with each passing day.

[TobiTobsen]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

whether America loves or hates me doesn't matter. It was once great, but now it's incredibly flawed.


Just like the Chantry!

Soo... you want us to blow up the White House? I'll just tell them the dwarven vengeance demon The Ethereal Writer Redux told me to do it!

[TEWR]

exactly

*sigh* but perhaps we should save the political talks for another thread. This is after all about Thedas needing more nudity.

[TEWR]

TobiTobsen wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

whether America loves or hates me doesn't matter. It was once great, but now it's incredibly flawed.


Just like the Chantry!

Soo... you want us to blow up the White House? I'll just tell them the dwarven vengeance demon The Ethereal Writer Redux told me to do it!

If you don't you're possessed by a demon of Sloth!

[Sable Rhapsody]

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

exactly

*sigh* but perhaps we should save the political talks for another thread. This is after all about Thedas needing more nudity.

Forget nudity, I'll even take some shirtlessness at this point.

[DoNotIngest]

Oooh! I got lotsa nature and a building! Can I haz a doggy with me and my gal?


If the game doesn't call for nudity, well, why have it? But 50 pounds of chainmail and plate armour in bed is pretty bad. Probably why only rogues and mages (less armoured classes) were love interests. I would have preferred Merrill stay clothed than wear that ****ty Blooming Rose **** outfit.

[Wowlock]

GSSAGE7 wrote...

http://www.nerfnow.com/comic/image/481
And now I wonder what DA3 will be like.

Now that's the explanation

[bti79]

 Maybe Thedas has fallen under the curse of the yet unknown but extremely evil demon of Prude?

"Some fear change and will fight it with every fibre of their being. But sometimes, change is what they need most. Sometimes, change is what sets them free." - that would be a change of clothes into something more "comfortable" during intimate scenes.  

[rspanther]

What it comes down to is power and control. A small, relatively, compared the population, group of people want to control every aspect of peoples lives.
Want to read that book, sorry it does not conform to our beliefs. Listen to that music, no no no, you will listen to what we tell you to listen to, because, well because we say so. Same for movies, TV, and now video games.
And they have the power to make decisions for other people because someone is afraid to stand up to them. After the ME1 mess, which came down to one person having a cable channel take notice of them, BW is not going to ruffle any feathers, just to make some people happy. Not when money is at stake. And it is alot of money.
It will be interesting to see how TW2 does, with nudity in the game, without mods, are there going to be stores that won't carry it?
The world wonders!

[nuclearpengu1nn]

If God Of War can do Dragon Age can do it

[fightright2]

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

The Ethereal Writer Redux wrote...

exactly

*sigh* but perhaps we should save the political talks for another thread. This is after all about Thedas needing more nudity.

Forget nudity, I'll even take some shirtlessness at this point.

I agree.
I would have thought they could at least show Fenris standing there with an intense gaze on Hawke while Hawke slowly removes his top to reveal more of his markings and touch them while he embraces the feeling to them being touched-as opposed to the feeling of an aversion to being touched- with his eyes rolling up till they close and have her kiss them.... fade to black.
Fade in... you see the back of his head over Hawke's face and in a breathy tone he swears in Tevinter in disbelief. Then you see him and Hawke from the side of him over Hawke in a face cropped view-
He stares intently into Hawke's eyes as if trying to look for something in Hawke's eyes.
Hawke then gently takes Fenris's cheek into Hawke's hand with warmth to which Fenris grasps Hawke's hand in a desperate clutch to his face....fade to black.

Then go to the scene of him at the fireplace.

I had something like that in my head. At least had to fill in some gaps where Bioware left out.
Heck, they gave us more in DAO and I think because of the mods they didn't want anything that could be modded into more smexy scenes of controversy.
But did they really have to do away with some revealing skin entirely? A guy's bare chest is not even considered partial nudity anyways.
It wouldn't have hurt the game to throw in more romance scenes during the lovemaking.

They either did away with it for censorship or because it was "streamlined" for budget reasons.
Either way. It really was lacking, especially since it was so hard to romance Fenris in the first place.
After all that, we should have been rewarded with at least a shirt off scene.. geesh.

But if it was the reason of censorship to make more family oriented, then explain how Lady Gaga who is all about freaky sex is not only accepted by parents, but enjoyed by parents and their kids both. Heck, kids look up to her as inspiration and a role model, complete with their parents' approval.
Now that's backazzwards.

Modifié par fightright2, 01 mai 2011 - 05:55 .

[Caja]

fightright2 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Forget nudity, I'll even take some shirtlessness at this point.

...
I had something like that in my head. At least had to fill in some gaps where Bioware left out.
Heck, they gave us more in DAO and I think because of the mods they didn't want anything that could be modded into more smexy scenes of controversy.
But did they really have to do away with some revealing skin entirely? A guy's bare chest is not even considered partial nudity anyways.
It wouldn't have hurt the game to throw in more romance scenes during the lovemaking.

They either did away with it for censorship or because it was "streamlined" for budget reasons.
Either way. It really was lacking, especially since it was so hard to romance Fenris in the first place.
After all that, we should have been rewarded with at least a shirt off scene.. geesh.
...

I *think* Fenris' tattoos were part of the problem. To show him with a bare chest would still require a body model with these tattoos and I could imagine that it was indeed left out for budget reasons or due to time constraints. 
(Though this doesn't explain the lack of nudity in other romances.)

[fightright2]

Caja wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Forget nudity, I'll even take some shirtlessness at this point.

...
I had something like that in my head. At least had to fill in some gaps where Bioware left out.
Heck, they gave us more in DAO and I think because of the mods they didn't want anything that could be modded into more smexy scenes of controversy.
But did they really have to do away with some revealing skin entirely? A guy's bare chest is not even considered partial nudity anyways.
It wouldn't have hurt the game to throw in more romance scenes during the lovemaking.

They either did away with it for censorship or because it was "streamlined" for budget reasons.
Either way. It really was lacking, especially since it was so hard to romance Fenris in the first place.
After all that, we should have been rewarded with at least a shirt off scene.. geesh.
...

I *think* Fenris' tattoos were part of the problem. To show him with a bare chest would still require a body model with these tattoos and I could imagine that it was indeed left out for budget reasons or due to time constraints. 
(Though this doesn't explain the lack of nudity in other romances.)

Yeah, I think so too. Because they didn't change the desire demon's content. That demon and Isabela were pretty much all the "nudity" we got throughout it.
Even visiting the prostitutes was pretty much a bore. What was the point when there was nothing to see? Why even bother with it? Eh.
I saved before trying it and thought it was such a rip off of my money that I went back and reloaded my save. Now I don't even bother with them in my other playthroughs.

[TobiTobsen]

Caja wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Forget nudity, I'll even take some shirtlessness at this point.

...
I had something like that in my head. At least had to fill in some gaps where Bioware left out.
Heck, they gave us more in DAO and I think because of the mods they didn't want anything that could be modded into more smexy scenes of controversy.
But did they really have to do away with some revealing skin entirely? A guy's bare chest is not even considered partial nudity anyways.
It wouldn't have hurt the game to throw in more romance scenes during the lovemaking.

They either did away with it for censorship or because it was "streamlined" for budget reasons.
Either way. It really was lacking, especially since it was so hard to romance Fenris in the first place.
After all that, we should have been rewarded with at least a shirt off scene.. geesh.
...

I *think* Fenris' tattoos were part of the problem. To show him with a bare chest would still require a body model with these tattoos and I could imagine that it was indeed left out for budget reasons or due to time constraints. 
(Though this doesn't explain the lack of nudity in other romances.)

Gaider said that he wanted to show Fenris shirtless. The designers asked him what he would want to cut for that. So it was a problem with the budget.

[fightright2]

TobiTobsen wrote...

Caja wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

Sable Rhapsody wrote...

Forget nudity, I'll even take some shirtlessness at this point.

...
I had something like that in my head. At least had to fill in some gaps where Bioware left out.
Heck, they gave us more in DAO and I think because of the mods they didn't want anything that could be modded into more smexy scenes of controversy.
But did they really have to do away with some revealing skin entirely? A guy's bare chest is not even considered partial nudity anyways.
It wouldn't have hurt the game to throw in more romance scenes during the lovemaking.

They either did away with it for censorship or because it was "streamlined" for budget reasons.
Either way. It really was lacking, especially since it was so hard to romance Fenris in the first place.
After all that, we should have been rewarded with at least a shirt off scene.. geesh.
...

I *think* Fenris' tattoos were part of the problem. To show him with a bare chest would still require a body model with these tattoos and I could imagine that it was indeed left out for budget reasons or due to time constraints. 
(Though this doesn't explain the lack of nudity in other romances.)

Gaider said that he wanted to show Fenris shirtless. The designers asked him what he would want to cut for that. So it was a problem with the budget.

Thanks a lot EA. It always adds up to budget due to a rushed deadline. <_<

I hope this is a lesson to you that you can't rush art if you want to perfect it. Imagine what we would have if Michelangelo was rushed for the Sistine Chapel. 
Gaider and Bioware design staff deserves to have his fantastical creations materialized and perfected to it's highest peak. That was what WE deserve as fans. Anything less only proves to us how greedy big business corps are and their true desires are always willing to take up a great artist to manipulate the wallets of consumers for something half it's worth and at the cost of great artists and their reputation.
If you stand by them and help cultivate their talents, then you will not only be known for great quality with much profitable returns, you will have the respect of fans in being the best that artists seek to be under.

Modifié par fightright2, 01 mai 2011 - 08:10 .

[Beerfish]

Orsino was naked after he turned into the meat head golem. What more do you guys want?

[fightright2]

Beerfish wrote...

Orsino was naked after he turned into the meat head golem. What more do you guys want?

Uh...a romanceable Orsino for a DLC going outside Kirkwall would have been nice. Instead, they made him turn himself into that blimp to fight the templars only to come after you. Now that makes a lot of sense.

What a waste of a good character. He was noble up to that stupid stunt.

[Beerfish]

fightright2 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Orsino was naked after he turned into the meat head golem. What more do you guys want?

Uh...a romanceable Orsino for a DLC going outside Kirkwall would have been nice. Instead, they made him turn himself into that blimp to fight the templars only to come after you. Now that makes a lot of sense.

What a waste of a good character. He was noble up to that stupid stunt.

I agree with your point about a a waste of an interesting character, not so much the noble part.  The jackass helped kill the champions mom.  He could have been better used though that much I'll agree.

[fightright2]

Beerfish wrote...

fightright2 wrote...

Beerfish wrote...

Orsino was naked after he turned into the meat head golem. What more do you guys want?

Uh...a romanceable Orsino for a DLC going outside Kirkwall would have been nice. Instead, they made him turn himself into that blimp to fight the templars only to come after you. Now that makes a lot of sense.

What a waste of a good character. He was noble up to that stupid stunt.

I agree with your point about a a waste of an interesting character, not so much the noble part.  The jackass helped kill the champions mom.  He could have been better used though that much I'll agree.

Yeah, forgot about that. But yeah, I think he could have been used for some great DLC at least.

[venusara]

We do get to see a sexy, shirtless male Hawke in romance scenes....would kill to see a shirtless Fen or Anders (at the very least) #$%&!

Modifié par venusara, 02 mai 2011 - 12:48 .

[Shacary]

totally agree, it was a real disappointment.. seems even the Harry Potter [ kids movie arguably?] shows bare chests!!! c'mon A fenris chest would have been Awesome!! I still have hope these wonderfully talented fan artists and modders will make it work better. They dont gotta be naked [ tho Idk if would protest if they were] but something cool lke scenes frightnight would go great!

[hoorayforicecream]

Caja wrote...

I *think* Fenris' tattoos were part of the problem. To show him with a bare chest would still require a body model with these tattoos and I could imagine that it was indeed left out for budget reasons or due to time constraints. 
(Though this doesn't explain the lack of nudity in other romances.)

It was the same problem with Isabela; she has a special body model that's only shared with Bethany, and neither of them has a bra and panties texture set. Merrill and Anders can get "naked", because they have generic human male/elven female bodies. That weird bustier thing that Merrill wears is "naked" elf girl.

[Caja]

That's interesting. I didn't know that Bethany and Isabela shared the same body model. But if I think about it now, it makes sense.

Shame about Anders though *sigh*. At least he could have taken his shirt of.

[DarkFaerie316]

Gamer Ftw wrote...

I had an idea that they just strategically place pillows or blankets over the offending members lol.
would make a lot more sense than them wearing undies or being in bed fully clothed.
Also completely off topic but would a person who doesn't play shooter games like mass effect at all?
I am curious about it since everyone mentions it.

In response to your question, I don't play shooters at all. Not really a fan of them but I do own/play mass effect 2. It's a fantastic game that I'm really glad I got. I can't speak for other ppl but I really enjoy the game. 

[Redneck1st]

venusara wrote...

We do get to see a sexy, shirtless male Hawke in romance scenes....would kill to see a shirtless Fen or Anders (at the very least) #$%&!

And to think if it were a guy bringing up this suggestion on the females of the game some ladies would get upset.