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[GuardianAngel470]

This is a poll I made to determine the basic moralities of the fanbase. I assign percentage spreads to particular moralities but they aren't exact. They're more to illustrate the basic spread of points won.

I also want to know not what your characters are but what YOU are. I personally always act how I would act but I know that many of you choose to create characters that you then act as. In that sort of case just vote how your most true-to-you shepard behaves.

Now without further ado, here's the poll: http://social.biowar...94/polls/19358/

[GuardianAngel470]

Thank you those that have voted, and for the rest of you feel free to vote.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

I like this poll. One issue: it's possible to have the paragon meter filled 100% and still have the Renegade meter filled to 30+. But I got the gist of the question, and assumed that anyone with a full Paragon bar should put their tic in that column.

[GuardianAngel470]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

I like this poll. One issue: it's possible to have the paragon meter filled 100% and still have the Renegade meter filled to 30+. But I got the gist of the question, and assumed that anyone with a full Paragon bar should put their tic in that column.

Actually it's possible to have a lot more than that. I've had 100+% Paragon and 60% renegade before and that was on Xbox before there was modding.

However, I'd call that Paragade because the ratio is so close. It's a 5:3 ratio.

A true paragon would have very little Renegade points and I just put 20% out there because it sounded reasonable for what I was trying to convey. In a case like that it would be a ratio of 5:1.

[CulturalGeekGirl]

The problem is that you can more-than-fill the Paragon bar. Like... my renegade points are just from taking a few interrupts and being rude to one or two jerks. My Paragon points are off the charts. Enh. (also in the future if you want your poll to bump well, encourage people to post about their votes in the thread.)

[GuardianAngel470]

CulturalGeekGirl wrote...

The problem is that you can more-than-fill the Paragon bar. Like... my renegade points are just from taking a few interrupts and being rude to one or two jerks. My Paragon points are off the charts. Enh. (also in the future if you want your poll to bump well, encourage people to post about their votes in the thread.)

Noted. Yeah, the paragon/renegade implementation is a bit broken. However, the idea wasn't to be exact to your character's point spread but rather to what the player was. For instance, Paragade really means "Nice to the Good, Ruthless to the Bad" but that's kinda hard to make a part of a poll.

Then of course is the distinction between Renegon and Renegade which I don't totally understand how to describe because I am not the type to play either. Using percentage spread allows me to avoid making incorrect assumptions about the players of ME2. It isn't supposed to be true to the ME2 system (which I have twice pointed out as flawed).

[aimlessgun]

Looks like a lot of people are voting what their characters are haha.

The weird thing is I don't really know how to answer this question. In my everyday life, I am pretty much totally paragon, except the dumb paragon stuff. But if I was actually in Shepard's shoes, with the galaxy at stake, I think I would be pretty renegade.

[Apathy1989]

On my first playthrough I had something like 90% paragon, 40% renegade. On my first playthroughs I always choose options as I personally see fit.

However once you start missing dialogue options because you didn't have enough points, subsequent playthroughs all end up being driven by which actions give points. In my first playthough I lost Legion because I lost Mirandas loyalty by siding with Jack in the argument.

Modifié par Apathy1989, 30 avril 2011 - 11:28 .

[Tilarta]

I'm a Paragade.

And yes, I'm pretty much like that in real life, only not as physically violent (verbal aggression, on the other hand, yes!!!).

I'm nice to people I like and who will deal with me honestly or pleasantly, but cross me and I'll make darn clear you're opening a can of flesh eating worms.

[GuardianAngel470]

Apathy1989 wrote...

On my first playthrough I had something like 90% paragon, 40% renegade. On my first playthroughs I always choose options as I personally see fit.

However once you start missing dialogue options because you didn't have enough points, subsequent playthroughs all end up being driven by which actions give points. In my first playthough I lost Legion because I lost Mirandas loyalty by siding with Jack in the argument.

On my first playthrough I had about 50%/50%. Needless to say I failed the Miranda/Jack Confrontation. I must have picked a lot of neutral options as the paragon option seemed too wishywashy and the renegade option seemed to mean.

Then of course I learned the system and got huge percentages of Paragon. Then I got Gibbed's save editor:P

[GuardianAngel470]

Saphra Deden wrote...

Renegade. Shocking to anyone who knows me, I'm sure. I enjoy playing characters that I like more. I haven't played a Paragon Shepard in a long time.

Yeah, this doesn't surprise me at all.

For the record, I'm Paragade with emphasis on the "gade". I tend to fluctuate a lot but I always follow the same basic mold.

It helps that a renegade response and paragon response are both equally true to me. Unless it's just a jerk response, in which case it isn't and I don't choose it.

[XCPTNL]

The 6 main chars I'm going to import to ME3 are evenly split: 3 Paragons and 3 Renegades. There's no option to vote for that. In hundreds of hours I have rarely ever played a "mixed" character though. They are either Paragon or Renegade all the way and I have usually experienced the other dialogue options by just reloading a save or something like that.

I guess in my heart I'm a Renegade. Get the job done fast, don't mess around. There's a big problem with Renegades in ME though: you might miss out on some characters and thus conversations because they are simply already dead because you killed them, got them killed, didn't help them or whatever.

[Endurium]

Even though I play Paragon primarily, I voted Paragade because real life isn't as simple as always picking the top option (and even if it was; the results can vary considerably).

[Eiliestl]

I am very Paragade. And the about Legion and ED , mosty people picked that they called them he or she. I have to know why,they are just things.

[GuardianAngel470]

Eiliestl wrote...

I am very Paragade. And the about Legion and ED , mosty people picked that they called them he or she. I have to know why,they are just things.

Anthropomorphization or in my case simply a recognition of sapience. Though "it" is technically and gramatically correct, calling anything that can think for itself, make decisions, and do calculus "it" just feels wrong.

There's also the idea of projecting one's own opinion so that no one is confused. If I call EDI or Legion "it" in front of say Admiral Hackett or the Council then they will assume that Legion or EDI hold a position below what they actually do. EDI is the Normandy, she's as vital to the proper function of the ship as Tali, the engineers, or Joker. She is an important member of the crew to me so calling her "it" in public would send the wrong impression. Same goes for Legion.

As far as the forums go, again using the pronoun "he" or "she" conveys very quickly where a person stands. People that distrust Legion almost invariably call him "it" while people that love the disfunctional, hole ridden guy call him "he". Again, same with EDI.

Modifié par GuardianAngel470, 08 mai 2011 - 12:26 .

[V-rex]

Personally I Proudly represent the Powerful and Plentiful and Peaceful Paragons with a Perfect Percentage of Paragonness on my Person.

[GuardianAngel470]

V-rex wrote...

Personally I Proudly represent the Powerful and Plentiful and Peaceful Paragons with a Perfect Percentage of Paragonness on my Person.

Would you eat it with a fox? Would you eat it in a box?

[V-rex]

GuardianAngel470 wrote...

V-rex wrote...

Personally I Proudly represent the Powerful and Plentiful and Peaceful Paragons with a Perfect Percentage of Paragonness on my Person.

Would you eat it with a fox? Would you eat it in a box?

No I will not eat green eggs and ham.

I do not like them, Sam I Am!

[M4N0FF4I7H]

Renegon.

I'll always take the "paragon" route when dealing with squadmates or situations where i dont need paragon/renegade points like saving the council or blowing up the collector base.

[atheelogos]

Paragade is the only logical choice in my mind : )

[PsychoWARD23]

Paragon

[BlazeShepard]

Paragade is the best of both worlds IMHO, which is why I think people like it so much because...

You are generally a good guy/gal, helping people, wanting to save the galaxy, taking the moral high ground when possible, etc. But on the other hand, you can still cut loose sometimes and let the dark side take over for a while - seriously, who HASN'T immolated the Weyrloc Speaker during Mordin's loyalty mission, the game practically begs you to do it

[Golden Owl]

Paragon in life...paragon in game....Not quite as naive or trusting in life though.

Modifié par Golden Owl, 27 mai 2011 - 02:44 .

[jamesp81]

Paragade for real and in game. A bit more paragon in game than in reality. In game, pro-human but not against anyone else. Same for reality: I am proud of my own people and culture, but I like to help everyone else too.

Edit:

Except for when I'm at work and people continually and incessantly interrupt me when I'm in the middle of something important and technical, where I don't need my train of thought broken.  Then I have major desires to go full renegade all over their face.

Modifié par jamesp81, 27 mai 2011 - 03:09 .