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[afhdjs]

I'd have to say that DA2 romance scenes are better than DAO's in concept but not execution. DA2 scenes have a lot of things I wanted. They are more customized for each LI, and you also get a more natural pillow talk with Merill, instead of standing around the fire fully dressed like DAO.

However, DA2 scenes seem more forced and artificial than DAO's because of BW's reluctance to show the actual romance or any nudity. The fade way scene is really odd and a little over cautious. There is no nudity in the game, why zoom away from the character so fast and all of a sudden make them so far away from the camera? As well, romance sequences happen so fast, which takes away any sensuality in them. DAO's romance scenes actually seem more sensual and passionate because they are upclose and last for a while.

Not to be over focused on romance or anything, but I always thought complicated romances gave BW games a more emotional element. I'm bit disappointed with BW for buying into Fox New's unjustified attack, and think that romance could be portrayed in a more close up and liberal manner, with even some nudity if it is not done in a full frontal or fetishezied way. Like you could show some skin on the characters, but make the camera focused on their faces instead of chests, groins and behinds. BW could also avoid female anger by giving equal amounts of nudity for male and females. They also don't have to show private parts, but maybe some cleavage or exposed backs, shoulders etc, with the rest covered by blankets or something. It would seem more natural than underwear humping in DAO or hot steamy romance told by Ned Flanders type scenes in DA2. 

BW did make DA2 incredible sexualized, with bigger than Lara Croft busts for just about every female character except Aveline and Merrill (the latter would be very chesty if she didn't have broom stick like arms and legs). Instead of trying discreet gimmicks to attract the adolescent crowd, wouldn't it be better to make sex seem more realistic and connected with the partner? DAO tried to do that.

What do you think?

[Romantiq]

Yeah....DAII has "awesome" scenes filled with "awesome" pillow talk.

[GGRush]

DAO + Natural Body + Better Sex Scenes is better

[Zjarcal]

I'll take the romantic scenes of DA2 over the awkward granny panties humping of Origins.

[guitarmouse]

DAO with the add ons....hot!!!

[Cutlass Jack]

Zjarcal wrote...

I'll take the romantic scenes of DA2 over the awkward granny panties humping of Origins.

Was a little odd that the only way you could get Morrigan to finally put on a bra was to have sex with her...

[jlb524]

Zjarcal wrote...

I'll take the romantic scenes of DA2 over the awkward granny panties humping of Origins.

This.

[Edhriano]

GGRush wrote...

DAO + Natural Body + Better Sex Scenes is better

This !  <3 .

[Romantiq]

kya169 wrote...

guitarmouse wrote...

DAO with the add ons....hot!!!

yup!

Yay for PC.

Modifié par Romantiq, 30 avril 2011 - 02:52 .

[Nerdage]

To be honest I don't think the scenes are all that important, some people seem to treat them as the "pay off" for the entire romance. Seems to me that the point of the romances is to make the game more engaging and to help the player empathise with the characters, not to act as some sex-scene-unlocking minigame. That said, I prefer how it's done in DA2, aside from the wonky (downright awkward, let's be honest) animations in DAO, I don't need to sit through a five minute "who's your daddy?" montage to get the idea.

Modifié par nerdage, 30 avril 2011 - 02:53 .

[Foolsfolly]

I liked DA2's better.

DA:O's definitely showed more skin but it's also full of unintentionally hilarious moments. Like how elves and dwarves grow human sized, the whole underwear dry humping thing, and the fact that to have sex Morrigan puts on a bra.

[Ladybright]

DA2, definitely. I think they are more tasteful and expressive, and less hokey.

[bleetman]

DA2 has sex scenes? Where? All I saw was 'before and after'.

Which, for the record, I much prefer. Try as they might to be intimate, two underwear-clad characters rubbing against each other in Origins was mostly unbearable to watch, perhaps due to the creeping realization that the two of them were hanky pankying all over the campsite, in full view of everyone. Hawke at least has the decency of getting it on in the privacy of his or her own room, inside a mansion.

Modifié par bleetman, 30 avril 2011 - 03:32 .

[Travie]

The ME1 style cutscene was the best that Bioware produced so far, but of course The Witcher 2 will actually use the 'mature' rating and not be silly and immature about sex, putting this game to shame.

[bleetman]

Travie wrote...

The Witcher 2 will actually use the 'mature' rating and not be silly and immature about sex

Have they jettisoned the absurd collectable cards, then?

[Nerdage]

Travie wrote...

The ME1 style cutscene was the best that Bioware produced so far, but of course The Witcher 2 will actually use the 'mature' rating and not be silly and immature about sex, putting this game to shame.

What's immature is assuming that the age rating obligates Bioware to include everything that particular rating allows. Age ratings are imposed on games by a board of over-anxious do-gooders, it's not a template the developer uses to decide on content, they may aim to be within a certain rating but they won't sit down and say "We're making a mature-rated game, so therefore we must include swearing, nudity, violence and drug-use ".

Modifié par nerdage, 30 avril 2011 - 04:19 .

[Foolsfolly]

nerdage wrote...

Travie wrote...

The ME1 style cutscene was the best that Bioware produced so far, but of course The Witcher 2 will actually use the 'mature' rating and not be silly and immature about sex, putting this game to shame.

What's immature is assuming that the age rating obligates Bioware to include everything that particular rating allows. Age ratings are imposed on games by a board of over-anxious do-gooders, it's not a template the developer uses to decide on content, they may aim to be within a certain rating but they won't sit down and say "We're making a mature-rated game, so therefore we must include swearing, nudity, violence and drug-use ".

All of them. AT THE SAME TIME!

Hawke's doing cocaine, while having sex with Isabela, gutting a helpless child, and screaming, "GODDAMN I AM AN AWESOME ****ING BUTTON!"

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

To be fair, the themes presented in the Witcher video games are consistent with the books they are based on.

Also, if you've played the Witcher, it's pretty well integrated into the universe, it doesn't feel tacked on. Sex cards, being one possible exception, and they aren't even in the second game.

Edit, as for the romances, I don't know really. I'd say the actual scenes were probably better in DA 2 though, but to be honest, I don't care about the scenes or romances too much.

I guess I'm FOREVER ALONE.

Modifié par mrcrusty, 30 avril 2011 - 04:41 .

[Sacred_Fantasy]

Both DA O and DA 2 romance are "too easy". I don't think romance would work by simple flirt here and there. It just doesn't feel right. Something else is missing. I feel it need more focus, strong reason ( other than crush? ) and dramatic trigger that force each other to realize that they need each other badly. But then again, DA 2 is mainly about combat, combat and combat.

Modifié par Sacred_Fantasy, 30 avril 2011 - 04:41 .

[MassEffect762]

GGRush wrote...

DAO + Natural Body + Better Sex Scenes is better

^ He knows whats up.

I suspect it's probably one of the reasons we don't have a toolset for DA2 yet as well.

Back on track, I thought Lelianas romance was pretty nice.(dialogue)

The scenes themselves are pretty tame.


They should add more to romances, give the love interests more than just one "scene".(a date, a get away, something more, dig deeper)

Modifié par MassEffect762, 30 avril 2011 - 04:44 .

[Kilshrek]

Why does this matter so much to so many people? Apply a dash of imagination and you get a scene far more "enjoyable" than can be legally put into a cutscene. Sure it may help jog the imagination a little but with the exception of the seriously awkward business of DAO (I mean, getting it on, but not really, and in the middle of camp where everyone else is doing their own thing, right...) there isn't too much to complain about.

The internet provides, my friends, and that is really all that needs to be said.

[Nerdage]

Sacred_Fantasy wrote...

Both DA O and DA 2 romance are "too easy". I don't think romance would work by simple flirt here and there. It just doesn't feel right. Something else is missing. I feel it need more focus, strong reason ( other than crush? ) and dramatic trigger that force each other to realize that they need each other badly. But then again, DA 2 is mainly about combat, combat and combat.

To be fair, we are missing about three years between meeting the characters in act one and the romance's 'climax' in act two. That's what I put it down to, anyway.

[MassEffect762]

Kilshrek wrote...

Why does this matter so much to so many people? Apply a dash of imagination and you get a scene far more "enjoyable" than can be legally put into a cutscene. Sure it may help jog the imagination a little but with the exception of the seriously awkward business of DAO (I mean, getting it on, but not really, and in the middle of camp where everyone else is doing their own thing, right...) there isn't too much to complain about.

The internet provides, my friends, and that is really all that needs to be said.

Human nature? Not that I don't get where your coming from or disagree with you.

Pull back the facade of civility and you'll find we're animals.(imo)

Modifié par MassEffect762, 30 avril 2011 - 04:55 .