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[i love lamp x3]

7.5

[Guliver]

AAHook2 wrote...

DAO MAdhatter wrote...

Fiddles_stix wrote...

DA:O - 9.5
DA2 - 5

Sometimes I think I should give DA2 a higher rating because I did finish it but I just can't, maybe I need a new state of mind when I play it.

You gave DAO a 9.5!? thats is total fanboyism. It doesnt deserve any were closed to that. Dont you even see its MANY flaws?How bout its clunky slow out dated combat, its cleiched story, its use of a voiceless main ncharacter who stares blanky at everyone even during the most desperapte of times? Your either a lier, or your blind.

There are no perfect games.
Eventually you come to love something not because it's flawless, but because of its flaws. I rate a game according to its overall value.
There's something nearly intangible about Origins that is just...enjoyable.  I was watching an HBO sitdown called Talking Funny, with Jerry Seinfeld, Louie CK, Chris Rock and Ricky Gervais. Seinfeld said something that was very interesting. He said, [You can't tell someone why they like something...They just do.]
Tell me the story is cliched all you want, but at a lot of points, I think that was the intention. It was like a love note to the RPG genre and Fantasy as a whole. It just worked for me. There were many references to Tolkien, Robert Jordan, George R.R. Martin, Dungeons and Dragons. I think a lot of so called "elitists" have missed the whole point of the game. It was meant to be a tribute to Fantasy and the Western RPG.
Of course it's cliche!
Even down to your non-voiced hero. The voice is yours. The slower combat. It felt more thoughtful. You had to think a little ahead about what you were doing. Sometimes you miss. Sometimes you didn't position your team right. Of course it's clunky and complicated. You need a better scheme to operate. Reload the fight and think about it, then try again.
I loved this game and all of its flaws and foibles. You could have reconstructed this game in all detail only changed the names and shifted the story around a bit and I would have loved it if you called it Dragon Age 2. I would have enjoyed that immensely. Sure we'd get complaints that it was no different than Origins, but I don't think many people would have minded that all that much.
I mean, just look at this thread. Origins averages a 9 out of 10.
Dragon Age 2 is something like a 7.
And who has the nerve to say that Dragon Age 2's story isn't cliche? A down on their luck family enters a city as a fefugee and has to do whatever it takes to survive, eventually rising to the top...
That doesn't sound familiar AT ALL.
For crying out loud, that angle was covered in the Dwarf Commoner story in Origins.

Sorry, all of the arguments putting down Origins are pretty tired. And still the same people who love to say so cannot bring themselves to say that Dragon Age 2 was better. Not with a straight face.

1)You got trolled by an obvious troll.
2)If you think that DA2 story is about hawke family rlsing to the top then you clearly failed to understand it or maybe you didn't even try to (like most of the people).

[xkg]

Guliver wrote...

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2)If you think that DA2 story is about hawke family rlsing to the top then you clearly failed to understand it or maybe you didn't even try to (like most of the people).

That's what the title says
Dragon Age 2 : Rise To Power

[Clangeddin86]

All rigorously "imho"

DA:O - 8,5
DA II - 6,75

What improved from DA.O to DA II

1 - Better class and combat balance
2 - More companion/characters diversity and depth
3 - Streamlined inventory and item management (no, I don't find any pleasure in wasting time managing backpacks and finding the junk to sell to vendors, I also don't enjoy loot scavenging 50000 junk weapons from every damn enemy I kill, in this DA II improved a lot imho)
4 - Main plot less "cliché"


What got worse:

1 - Lack of story-altering choices
2 - Lack of location variety
3 - Much less replayability
4 - Much less longevity (A LOT less, this one is probably what kills the grade for me the most)
5 - Much less rpg as a whole
6 - Too many, way too many fights consist in fighting 2/3 waves of swarms of minor enemies, only 2 fights in this game interested me)
7 - Map re-use abused to the n-power.
8 - Feels like a rushed and incomplete game. (Prologue feels butchered and Act III is disgustingly short and easy)

Edit: Sorry I realized I had posted a spoiler, now I edited.

Modifié par Clangeddin86, 30 avril 2011 - 09:51 .

[Guliver]

xkg wrote...

Guliver wrote...

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2)If you think that DA2 story is about hawke family rlsing to the top then you clearly failed to understand it or maybe you didn't even try to (like most of the people).

That's what the title says
Dragon Age 2 : Rise To Power

[SPOILER] Hawke's family die, yo.

And it's not just about Garrett/Marian rising to power...

[RPGmom28]

Around a 7. Not one of my all time favorites, but I play it anyway.

[XxOmegaGambitxX]

hmm..an 8. I wanted to see more of how our actions in origins effected things.

[Jacody]

6

Appalling number of recycled areas.

Much better combat for consoles, but enemies literally fell out of the sky sometimes. WTF?

Slightly better graphics, much better character models, equally bland regions.

Somewhat interesting story, but feels confusing and some main quests feel utterly pointless.

Less interaction with party members and less chance to become attached to them like some people became towards Alistair. Most of the characters still have believable personalities, though.

Not a fan of the freaky noses Bioware gave Elves, either.

Overall it's fun, but it also feels mediocre and rushed.

[SwordsmanofShadow]

Dragon Age Origins: 9.5 (A)
Dragon Age 2: 5(F)

Replays (when the initial impression wears off and I can truly assess the game itself):

Dragon Age Origins: 9(A-)
Dragon Age 2: 3 (Major F)

Dragon Age 2 tried and failed. Few truly redeeming qualities. It would seem all this games success can be attributed to Origins- meaning that if Origins didn't exist and this was the first entry in the Dragon age universe, it would probably also be the last entry to the DA universe.

[erynnar]

DAO 9/10 (flawed but so damn good I can over look most, and replay value +++)

DA2 5/10 (felt rushed, and half baked, but I could see how epic it could have been)

Replay:

DAO 10/10 ( I can replay this over and over again and never get tired of it. Like one of my favorite books that I re-read over and over until it falls apart and I have to start reading my back up copy)

DA2 3 (might have been a 5 still, but for it's annoyance in replay. Really really
really annoyed by how hard it was to rivalmance Fenris (one stupid quest
out of order and I had to replay parts of Act 1 and Act 2 two times,
and three times in that order). Seeing the same dungeons over and over,
to do that really just killed it for me, probably should be more.
Once I have this playthrough, stick a fork in me...I'm done.

Modifié par erynnar, 30 avril 2011 - 10:53 .

[Abispa]

DA:O at 8.5.
DA2 at 7.

I actually had more fun replaying DA2 multiple times than I did DA:O, though.

[Caralampio]

DAO 10
DA2 6.6

My rating for DA2 used to be much lower (about 3 in a poll I answered a little after it came out) but I've developed a taste for it...  

[Nicnacman]

DA 9/10

DA2 8/10

[Merilsell]

First Playthrough:
DAO: 9,5
DA2: 6

DA2 had its good moments, sadly they were buried under the messy pile of reused areas, a bland city and main character, choices that did not matter and the overall rushed state of the game.

Replay value:
DAO: 10
I have played through it alone four times on console alone, without mods for a year...now where I have it for PC...well there is so much left to try with the mods and even after all the time I still find little new things. Still need to find a character who is crazy enough to spare Loghain for an instant.

DA2: None (for me)

I have deinstalled it again after doing every quest in the game, seeing both ends and doing the romance I wanted. I feel no urge to pain me once more through tedious waves of enemies and side quests just to get to the few good parts.

That is what You tube is for.

[TOBY FLENDERSON]

Origins: 9.5 (because of glitches)
DA2: 5.5 (would have been 6.5 but it has a terrible story and is glitched to hell)

[orbit991]

DAO 8.5

DA2 6.5

[_Aine_]

FIRST opinion only:

DAO: 8/10

DA2: 5/10


After another playthrough and the shock-of-new wore off, for both:

DAO: (after PC mods) 9/10 - 9.5 Not perfect but fantastic replayability, more reactionary world and different origins and possible crew changes/endings make this a big win.   If DLC was factored in, this number would go down - I felt the quality, in general was poor ( there are two I have not finished so I did not include DLC into it) 

DA2: 6.5-7.5/10 (depending on the day) but could have been higher with alternate endings, less recycled areas, less hokey kill animation/effects, less falling baddies. Some changes really impressed, but what was wrong with it pulled it back at least a point, point and a half. Still, it *is* replayable, just not the same originality each time as DAO (origins do that mostly). With mods, this # could go up with help from the modders ( who don't have the same stringent rules to follow to get things approved for release)

Modifié par shantisands, 30 avril 2011 - 11:33 .

[Fishy]

They improved a lot of different aspect of Origins but they removed a lot of GREAT THING from origins that did not balance out the 'good' and the 'bad'..

Origins 9/10
DA2 : 7.5/10

DA2 definitly needed more developement time.

Modifié par Suprez30, 30 avril 2011 - 11:34 .

[Velanna Dalish]

DAO: 8
DA Awakening: 6 (the interaction of the characters is horrible)
DA2: 5 (The only good thing is the voice of the character female/male)

[Kabanya101]

DA:O 10
DA2 5

Honestly, DAO was one of my favorite games I have ever played, the RPG aspects of the game made every choice matter, and every quest fun and immersive.

And DA2, I would have given it a one, if it weren't for the new combat system, and Merrill. Complete waste of $60. The character "Hawke" pissed me off, but the thing that really threw me off the edge was the fact that he wasn't a grey warden, DA is based off of being a grey warden and killing darkspawn, they did a complete 180, bad decision Bioware. They had charcaters from Origins and Awakening which ruined the fact of bringing the old team together. And the only reason the game was even conected to the first one, was by the name, and the fact that the added Flemeth at the start of the game. Other than that, no decisions, nothing from Origins mattered which was dumb. If they really wanted the game to be right, they would have called it Dragon Age: Kirkwall. It wasn't a sequel to origins, therefor it couldn't be the second.
Oh and customization for teammates blew. Character depth is minor. Merrill, weak and lonely, anything else, no. Fenris, mad at the people that hurt him, why, doesn't say unless you kiss his ass. Aveline, likes you but doesn't want a relationship, stupid.

Bioware you make some great games with graphics and gameplay, but your logic in making the games and their storylines is completely retarded. Its like the writer is on crack and pulling stuff out of his ass. The games graphics and mechanics good, but shouldn't have ever been called the sequel. They should have done what Bethesda did with Fallout, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas. They have the original story and they have branches off from the main story.

[fenderstrat6]

DAO: 9

DA2: 6

[Paraxial]

8

The bugs factor into my rating, especially when they are as numerous and as severe as the ones in DA2.

[Annihilator27]

Id give it an 8.