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[Yxunomei]

 Most of us loved Origins and Awakening..Bioware made another Epic game on a different setting (thedas) mind you apart from the forgotten realms which the community greatly accepted. I am getting tired of people whinning and complaining about why DA:2 is a complete bust etc., I am one of many that got really frustrated about the release of 1.01 patch for the xbox 360, but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

[Sussurus]

Somewhat yes I agree, in  parts yes.
But I see what others do, that it did get very silly and quite unpolished last chapter and other sections.

Modifié par Sussurus, 30 avril 2011 - 02:24 .

[Bi_Winning]

ok

[Tommy6860]

Yxunomei wrote...


 Most of us loved Origins and Awakening..Bioware made another Epic game on a different setting (thedas) mind you apart from the forgotten realms which the community greatly accepted.

Huh? The whole realm is called Thedas. Thedas is not just Kirkwall and the Free Marches areas, it's a continent in the DA universe.. Also, the Forgotten Realms is not a location perse, but the theme of a gameplay and campaign settings carried on to D&D gameplay style, almost exclusively representing fantasy locations. The ruleset for D&D gameplay have been updated over the past few decades. I also would never say that DA2 plays anything along that style, not even remotely.

I am getting tired of people whinning and complaining about why DA:2 is a complete bust etc., I am one of many that got really frustrated about the release of 1.01 patch for the xbox 360, but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

Then go to bed and get some sleep and put all of the whining behind you, because you don't get to tell people that they cannot like a game for their own reasons., no more than I can tell you that you shouldn't like the game for your reasons you do.  I get that you like it and that's great that the story devlivered for you as well. I am not being facetious when I say I am happy you have been enjoying the game. But your enjoyment doesn't translate that I have to adhere to the same feeling you got for the game.

Modifié par Tommy6860, 30 avril 2011 - 05:57 .

[Texhnolyze101]

cool story good sir :]

[Big I]

Yxunomei wrote...
...BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

I disagree

[Everwarden]

No.

[ThePinkFoxx]

I loved DA II

While DA:O is still my favourite game and I feel like a little more diverse, DA II was fantastic game and is pretty much a completely different game so while it can be compared to it's predecessor at the same time it's its own game.

[snfonseka]

Yxunomei wrote...


 Most of us loved Origins and Awakening..Bioware made another Epic game on a different setting (thedas) mind you apart from the forgotten realms which the community greatly accepted. I am getting tired of people whinning and complaining about why DA:2 is a complete bust etc., I am one of many that got really frustrated about the release of 1.01 patch for the xbox 360, but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

For me the story has no proper interconnectivity among "Acts" in the game. There is no proper continuity (of the story) among these "Acts". The player doesn't get the feeling of the story while playing. If we compare this to previous Bioware games, those stories managed to bond the player to the game and this one fails to do so. Also the story lacks proper main goal that makes the story interesting. This is a major weak point in this game.

[OriginalLeftNut]

What who did'nt love the repeated environments and the epic loot system. Nothing like an epic dragon battle where you loot a ravens feather, moldy rag doll and really nice armour for a different class than you chose. I personally liked(Not loved mind you) the game but things like I mentioned above are just a few of the areas where lazy development made this game fall far short of it's predecessor imo.

Modifié par OriginalLeftNut, 30 avril 2011 - 06:07 .

[AlexXIV]

If people hate DA2 then most likely because they loved DA:O. Because they could just 'deal with it' if it wasn't important to them. And for those who are sorry for their money ... not every lesson in life is for free.

And they didn't deliver story wise. Too many holes and nonsense in the story can ruin a story and it does partly so for me. I am someone who doesn't give much about combat. And since the game only consists of combat and story, it is the story I have an issue with.

[Varus Torvyn]

ThePinkFoxx wrote...

I loved DA II

While DA:O is still my favourite game and I feel like a little more diverse, DA II was fantastic game and is pretty much a completely different game so while it can be compared to it's predecessor at the same time it's its own game.

I also enjoyed DA II. There are some things I wish would be fixed (such as party members changing after shopping, dog not following, spells interfering with others), but on the whole I like this game.

[Sabriana]

Tommy6860 wrote...

Yxunomei wrote...


 Most of us loved Origins and Awakening..Bioware made another Epic game on a different setting (thedas) mind you apart from the forgotten realms which the community greatly accepted.

Huh? The whole realm is called Thedas. Thedas is not just Kirkwall and the Free Marches areas, it's a continent in the DA universe.. Also, the Forgotten Realms is not a location perse, but the theme of a gameplay and campaign settings carried on to D&D gameplay style, almost exclusively representing fantasy locations. The ruleset for D&D gameplay have been updated over the past few decades. I also would never say that DA2 plays anything along that style, not even remotely.

I am getting tired of people whinning and complaining about why DA:2 is a complete bust etc., I am one of many that got really frustrated about the release of 1.01 patch for the xbox 360, but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

Then go to bed and get some sleep and put all of the whining behind you, because you don't get to tell people that they cannot like a game for their own reasons., no more than I can tell you that you shouldn't like the game for your reasons you do.  I get that you like it and that's great that the story devlivered for you as well. I am not being facetious when I say I am happy you have been enjoying the game. But your enjoyment doesn't translate that I have to adhere to the same feeling you got for the game.

I couldn't agree more. The FR reference was quite confusing. Did you believe that DA:O was set in the FR? WotC would've swooped down in a heart-beat if that were so. DnD isn't used in DA:O. Ferelden is a country in Thedas. As is Orlais. And the city-state of Kirkwall.

As for the whining, that's quite insulting. A lot of people have issues with the game - to tell us (the critics) to take our criticizm elsehwere because *you* don't approve is, quite frankly, irritating at best.

If you had fun and enjoyed it for whatever reason, fine. I'm happy for you. I sincerely do. But do not tell me what I can and can't enjoy. That's entirely my own decision, tailored to my taste and my preferences. Thank you.

And thus we see another thread whining about whining.


Edited for a tad more clarity

Modifié par Sabriana, 30 avril 2011 - 08:15 .

[Tommy6860]

Sabriana wrote...

I couldn't agree more. The FR reference was quite confusing. Did you believe that DA:O was set in the FR? WotC would've swooped down in a heart-beat if that were so. DnD isn't used in DA:O. Ferelden is a country in Thedas. As is Orlais. And the city-state of Kirkwall.

Yes, I believe DA:O applied to the FR considering its style and gameplay. I would not say, however, that it is true to form. But BG is set in the FR lore and rulesets and Origins is a carry over of sort from that. I most certainly do not think that DA2 even hints to the FR theme, let alone playing as even an RPG.

As for the whining, that's quite insulting. A lot of people have issues with the game - to tell us (the critics) to take our criticizm elsehwere because *you* don't approve is, quite frankly, irritating at best.

If you had fun and enjoyed it for whatever reason, fine. I'm happy for you. I sincerely do. But do not tell me what I can and can't enjoy. That's entirely my own decision, tailored to my taste and my preferences. Thank you.

And thus we see another thread whining about whining.


Edited for a tad more clarity

Yes, I just wish we had some really good cheese to go with all of whine we have here. But then we'll whine about not having the right kind of whine, erm, I better stop while I am ahead.

[Sabriana]

@ Tommy

I was more referring to the statement that Thedas is the newest and shiniest and brand new to DA 2. I took that to meaning that the OP somehow thought that DA:O was set in the FR. It is however, a brand new franchise with its own lore, and background. It is also not set in Aber-Toril, but Thedas. Both games are set in Thedas and adhere to Bioware's own backstory (well, DA 2 should, but sadly, it didn't quite manage) Imo

Lol on the whine. All this whine from both sides here would keep us drunk for months on end


Edited to add "imo", as that seems to be a law, and I don't want to get yelled at  on a beautiful, sunshiney Saturday morning.

Modifié par Sabriana, 30 avril 2011 - 08:48 .

[MDT1]

Yxunomei wrote...


 Most of us loved Origins and Awakening..Bioware made another Epic game on a different setting (thedas) mind you apart from the forgotten realms which the community greatly accepted. I am getting tired of people whinning and complaining about why DA:2 is a complete bust etc., I am one of many that got really frustrated about the release of 1.01 patch for the xbox 360, but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

And I get tired of people whining about those who have another opinion.
It's a fact that some people hate the changes and find this game not enjoyable so its quite natural to complaine.

[Dariuszp]

Nice you like it but don't expect that everyone will because YOU like it. Game is inferior to part one in almost EVERY aspect. Call me a hater but i see things that i don't like. That's why i don't like the game. Please respect that.

MY PROBLEMS WITH THE GAME:
1. Lowered difficult because they want to target stupid people who want games that play itself.

2. Remove equipment to help stupid people because they don't know what to choose. Now you can change only your equipment and it's only like 2-3 armor sets.

3. Remove items from equipment and turn it to a junk because stupid people don't know what to sell and what will be in use to them. WHY THE HELL I'M COLLECTING JUNK IN THIS GAME ? It could just be transferred to money
automaticly...

4. Remove locations because stupid people need to SEARCH for something. Now you travel 20 times to the same location. Enemies in the same place. Chests in the same place. Everything in the same place. Now you just remember 5-6 locations and you don't need to search for anything.

5. Players can finish this game faster than Call of Duty. We need to slow them down. Just spawn hordes of monsters around them from the air. Stupid people will not expect a thing.

6. Remove all equipment. Stupid people don't see a thing. Just calculate player lvl and stats, put some random names, get random schema and generate new sword or staff. Because stupid people need always "Super Hiper Uber-Great-swords with flames". Now mighty High Dragon will drop some junk and some lowlife thug in the slums will drop you "Super Hiper Great-sword with +5 to awesomeness"...

7. Remove all choices. Stupid people have problem when they need to READ 10 sentences in conversation (remember Baldurs Gate, Fallout etc ? 5-10 choices == standard) . Now stupid people have no problem because they have "Good, Evil and Stupid" choice.  Because some stupid people don't know how to read... we will put some images like road lights. Red, green and yellow...

8. Swords are for morons. Stupid people need GREAT SWORD. Swords that is taller than character. And they swing it around with one hand. Look stupid people- you got great hero here. The Champion.

9. Game cannot be long. Long and complex games wont be played by stupid people. Cut it by four. To short ? Spawn more monsters ? Still to short ? Spawn another wave...

10. Oh... i forgot. Awesomeness everywhere. Make all characters from part one a ****** (Anders ?), redesign Witch of the Wilds and add +10 to awesomeness. Darkspawns look so horrible. Make them uniforms and mask. Crazy bloodthirsty animals that eat flesh, kill anything that moves and have no water to clean itself must look pretty. And Sten must have comrades with horns because we don't have horns here and horns are awesome! Don't look like game continuation ? Stupid people will don't see a thing. Do it.

Yeah, like the game. Just like you It's so nice, complex and have good story. I just play it 10 times already and i still have something new to find... (sarcasm)

Sorry for my English...

Modifié par Dariuszp, 30 avril 2011 - 09:13 .

[Tommy6860]

Sabriana wrote...

@ Tommy

I was more referring to the statement that Thedas is the newest and shiniest and brand new to DA 2. I took that to meaning that the OP somehow thought that DA:O was set in the FR. It is however, a brand new franchise with its own lore, and background. It is also not set in Aber-Toril, but Thedas. Both games are set in Thedas and adhere to Bioware's own backstory (well, DA 2 should, but sadly, it didn't quite manage) Imo

Lol on the whine. All this whine from both sides here would keep us drunk for months on end


Edited to add "imo", as that seems to be a law, and I don't want to get yelled at  on a beautiful, sunshiney Saturday morning.

Ahh, gotcha on that. I thought you were asking me what I believed regarding FR, etc (dense moment for me as usual).

But, I do love the burgundy whine colored hair you have, it fits the whole "whine" meme at this stage of the thread.

[Sabriana]

Thank you, Tommy.

WarriorWarden appreciates the compliment. Oh how I miss her. My kick-butt, assertive, no-nonsense dual wield warrior *sigh*

2 swords, and woe to those who cross her. Not being able to play a DW warrior in DA 2 almost made me cry.... That's the sole reason I never even tried the build in DA 2.

[wicked_being]

With all due respect to the DA writers team, but I think DA2's story just didn't make sense. Maybe it's because DA2 was "rushed" that the team wasn't able to fully realize/implement the story they wanted to tell, who knows. Timeline was messed up, decisions didn't carry much weight (if any at all), Hawke's rise to power just felt forced and lot of things just didn't fit ie. *SPOILERS* fighting waves of abominations even though you're a mage and you sided with the mages.

[MorrigansLove]

I disagree. The story may have been good, but its execution was poor.

[Teddie Sage]

Another thread that will be closed because OC is complaining about complainers. Vive la démocratie...

[FellowerOfOdin]

The story's concept was awesome, but the execution was a mess. You never got emotionally attached to your character, siding with the mages is unrewarding to say the least and the story has more plot holes than actual script.

[GODzilla]

I enjoy the game, too. But there is one problem I have with it: Balancing. Bad balancing creates such frustrating moments that it almost overshadows the fun I have. Sometimes.

And what is the cause of bad balancing? Time. They would've needed more. This was the main gripe people had prior to release and Bioware did everything to calm them down. "Everything is okay, the short development time had no bad influence."

I don't believe it anymore. And Bioware should definitely take their time for their next DA-installment. Otherweise I wont buy.