380 réponses à ce sujet

[graavigala85]

DragonAge:2? why the : marks?

[fchopin]

Yxunomei wrote...

but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

I am happy you like the game but please don't say that Bioware delivered on the story.
 
If this is what you call good story telling then i don't want any of this.
 
I did have fun playing the game for a week or two but now it's time for the new games coming out.

[MorrigansLove]

fchopin wrote...

Yxunomei wrote...

but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

I am happy you like the game but please don't say that Bioware delivered on the story.
 
If this is what you call good story telling then i don't want any of this.
 
I did have fun playing the game for a week or two but now it's time for the new games coming out.

Agreed.

[Damariel]

MorrigansLove wrote...

fchopin wrote...

Yxunomei wrote...

but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

I am happy you like the game but please don't say that Bioware delivered on the story.
 
If this is what you call good story telling then i don't want any of this.
 
I did have fun playing the game for a week or two but now it's time for the new games coming out.

Agreed.

+1

[Pandaman102]

Yxunomei wrote...

 Most of us loved Origins and Awakening..Bioware made another Epic game on a different setting (thedas) mind you apart from the forgotten realms which the community greatly accepted. I am getting tired of people whinning and complaining about why DA:2 is a complete bust etc., I am one of many that got really frustrated about the release of 1.01 patch for the xbox 360, but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

Because accusing people of whining (whining about the game sucking or whining about complaints) and ignoring legitimate arguments is what made the boards such an informative and pleasant place to be.

Glad you liked the game and story, plenty of posts giving good reasons and examples why people don't; go read them, take time to think up counter arguments if you don't agree, don't be a hypocrite, and everyone wins.

Modifié par Pandaman102, 30 avril 2011 - 12:05 .

[miyagisan]

Ok, so I finished the game.

I did like it. Yes. I did not finish DAO, mind you. Why ? Guess I was busy with other games ... persistent online onese perhaps.

Still, I just came here to share what I did like in this game.
 ( in a few other posts I was a bit critical)
First, I like that playing a warrior is finally, a fun thing to do ! Those limited AoE attacks work wonders, and fit two-handed weapons nicely.
The abilty to pick from multiple skill trees is also a bonus in my book.
The story and the huge work put into cutsecenes and dialogue provide for cinematic expereince. Yes, I liked the dialogue, the characters, especially Varric, but I wasn't offended by either of them, and I think most of them are unique and believeble characters.

Anyway, payed for it, I liked it, finished it. I will go now to the constructive criticism page and share a few thoughts, than see you after DA3's release.

Modifié par miyagisan, 30 avril 2011 - 12:18 .

[Elhanan]

OriginalLeftNut wrote...

What who did'nt love the repeated environments and the epic loot system. Nothing like an epic dragon battle where you loot a ravens feather, moldy rag doll and really nice armour for a different class than you chose. I personally liked(Not loved mind you) the game but things like I mentioned above are just a few of the areas where lazy development made this game fall far short of it's predecessor imo.

Perhaps it skips class, and jumps to scale Player Maturity....

[Corto81]

Dariuszp wrote...

Nice you like it but don't expect that everyone will because YOU like it. Game is inferior to part one in almost EVERY aspect. Call me a hater but i see things that i don't like. That's why i don't like the game. Please respect that.

MY PROBLEMS WITH THE GAME:
1. Lowered difficult because they want to target stupid people who want games that play itself.

2. Remove equipment to help stupid people because they don't know what to choose. Now you can change only your equipment and it's only like 2-3 armor sets.

3. Remove items from equipment and turn it to a junk because stupid people don't know what to sell and what will be in use to them. WHY THE HELL I'M COLLECTING JUNK IN THIS GAME ? It could just be transferred to money
automaticly...

4. Remove locations because stupid people need to SEARCH for something. Now you travel 20 times to the same location. Enemies in the same place. Chests in the same place. Everything in the same place. Now you just remember 5-6 locations and you don't need to search for anything.

5. Players can finish this game faster than Call of Duty. We need to slow them down. Just spawn hordes of monsters around them from the air. Stupid people will not expect a thing.

6. Remove all equipment. Stupid people don't see a thing. Just calculate player lvl and stats, put some random names, get random schema and generate new sword or staff. Because stupid people need always "Super Hiper Uber-Great-swords with flames". Now mighty High Dragon will drop some junk and some lowlife thug in the slums will drop you "Super Hiper Great-sword with +5 to awesomeness"...

7. Remove all choices. Stupid people have problem when they need to READ 10 sentences in conversation (remember Baldurs Gate, Fallout etc ? 5-10 choices == standard) . Now stupid people have no problem because they have "Good, Evil and Stupid" choice.  Because some stupid people don't know how to read... we will put some images like road lights. Red, green and yellow...

8. Swords are for morons. Stupid people need GREAT SWORD. Swords that is taller than character. And they swing it around with one hand. Look stupid people- you got great hero here. The Champion.

9. Game cannot be long. Long and complex games wont be played by stupid people. Cut it by four. To short ? Spawn more monsters ? Still to short ? Spawn another wave...

10. Oh... i forgot. Awesomeness everywhere. Make all characters from part one a ****** (Anders ?), redesign Witch of the Wilds and add +10 to awesomeness. Darkspawns look so horrible. Make them uniforms and mask. Crazy bloodthirsty animals that eat flesh, kill anything that moves and have no water to clean itself must look pretty. And Sten must have comrades with horns because we don't have horns here and horns are awesome! Don't look like game continuation ? Stupid people will don't see a thing. Do it.

Yeah, like the game. Just like you It's so nice, complex and have good story. I just play it 10 times already and i still have something new to find... (sarcasm)

Sorry for my English...

I wouldn't word it quite like that, personally, but I got a laugh from reading it. 

[Damicles]

Dariuszp have to admit this guy does have a point about how dumbed down the game was. As for the story what story all its about is you stuck in a city for 7 year listening to mages moan on how they been repressed by evil templars and when the time comes your or choice doesn't matter one bit you still end up killing both sides. Dull areas and even duller companions and as for the irritating family I was glad when they were all dead.

But I guess the EA effect is starting to take hold of Bioware after TOR and ME3 expect sup par games from now on.

[Elhanan]

Dariuszp wrote...

Nice you like it but don't expect that everyone will because YOU like it. Game is inferior to part one in almost EVERY aspect. Call me a hater but i see things that i don't like. That's why i don't like the game. Please respect that.

MY PROBLEMS WITH THE GAME:
1. Lowered difficult because they want to target stupid people who want games that play itself.

2. Remove equipment to help stupid people because they don't know what to choose. Now you can change only your equipment and it's only like 2-3 armor sets.

3. Remove items from equipment and turn it to a junk because stupid people don't know what to sell and what will be in use to them. WHY THE HELL I'M COLLECTING JUNK IN THIS GAME ? It could just be transferred to money
automaticly...

4. Remove locations because stupid people need to SEARCH for something. Now you travel 20 times to the same location. Enemies in the same place. Chests in the same place. Everything in the same place. Now you just remember 5-6 locations and you don't need to search for anything.

5. Players can finish this game faster than Call of Duty. We need to slow them down. Just spawn hordes of monsters around them from the air. Stupid people will not expect a thing.

6. Remove all equipment. Stupid people don't see a thing. Just calculate player lvl and stats, put some random names, get random schema and generate new sword or staff. Because stupid people need always "Super Hiper Uber-Great-swords with flames". Now mighty High Dragon will drop some junk and some lowlife thug in the slums will drop you "Super Hiper Great-sword with +5 to awesomeness"...

7. Remove all choices. Stupid people have problem when they need to READ 10 sentences in conversation (remember Baldurs Gate, Fallout etc ? 5-10 choices == standard) . Now stupid people have no problem because they have "Good, Evil and Stupid" choice.  Because some stupid people don't know how to read... we will put some images like road lights. Red, green and yellow...

8. Swords are for morons. Stupid people need GREAT SWORD. Swords that is taller than character. And they swing it around with one hand. Look stupid people- you got great hero here. The Champion.

9. Game cannot be long. Long and complex games wont be played by stupid people. Cut it by four. To short ? Spawn more monsters ? Still to short ? Spawn another wave...

10. Oh... i forgot. Awesomeness everywhere. Make all characters from part one a ****** (Anders ?), redesign Witch of the Wilds and add +10 to awesomeness. Darkspawns look so horrible. Make them uniforms and mask. Crazy bloodthirsty animals that eat flesh, kill anything that moves and have no water to clean itself must look pretty. And Sten must have comrades with horns because we don't have horns here and horns are awesome! Don't look like game continuation ? Stupid people will don't see a thing. Do it.

Yeah, like the game. Just like you It's so nice, complex and have good story. I just play it 10 times already and i still have something new to find... (sarcasm)

Sorry for my English...

Thanks for the opening invitation. Dear Mr Hater:

1 -  And right out of the gate comes Subjective Opinion, followed by Blatant Misinformation. It is seemingly a no-show for Lower Difficulty, but Target Stupid People appears to have taken the lead. IMO.

2 - The inclusion of Companion Armor Upgrades seems to help speed the game along as a plus. As a minus, much of the armor obtained in the game goes unseen. And with only "2-3" armor sets per person, it would seem to be more difficult for "stupid people" to mix armor parts w/o the matching Garanimals tags. Or is this the actual problem for you?

3 - Junk Collection as a design inclusion is a puzzle, but one made easy to dump for sale. But perhaps the Game gives Stupid People more credit, and figures that direct adds to purses might be met with screams of "Lack of realism". One cannot be sure how little it takes to get someone enraged.

4 - Perhaps Stupid People do not wish to wander to 20 different locations one time? Or maybe since Hawke is living in the same city for a decade, he learns that one may find more cargo in the Docks rather than the Chantry? If one does not like Fantasy Concentration, one does not always have to play.Hence many such quests are called Secondary (in case Stupid people were reading).

5 - Spawning opponents used as a difficulty factor! The Gaul! The Romans! Maybe it happens so often as to train Stupid People? Then based on some posts, it would seem many here are still untrained. Depends anuone?

6 - Random loot tables bothering you? Static loot tables bothering you? Life hating you? Take the +5 sword of Uber where you got it, and move along.

7 - Predetermined outcome does eliminate some results, but not neccessarily choice. If one helps or declines to aid a friend to do something Stupid, that does not mean that the results will change, but the choice is still there. Or were you expecting Pavlovian milkbones?

8 - Greatswords have you vexed due to appearance and size? Try using a Battleaxe or Maul; maybe even.. I dunno.. a smaller weapon? Maybe Stupid People actually got this one; well most anyway.

9 - Time again? Or spam?  If one wants to slow the game one can increase difficulty; too long may lower to avoid reloads. As Stupid People cannot play long games, and my first sessions were 111+ hrs; 77+ hrs. Thank you!

10 - Continuity an issue? Continence? Personally I like some of the redesign (eg; +10 Awesome Flemeth), and dislike other bits (eg; Darkspawn; Elves). Thing is, art tends to be that way, and using the same stuff every time may placate Stupid People, but may not please the majority.

Nice to see ya, Mr Hater! Bye! *plays theme to famous childrens show while donning a sweater*

[Yxunomei]

@Sabriana

What I meant is they did a good job on creating a new setting outside DnD.

[Dariuszp]

Well, it's not like i didn't like it all. Some stuff was nice. Aveline for example. Best character in this game in my opinion.
Idea for the story was good but it didn't play very well. End of the game was horrible.

I would not complain about ninja falling from the sky all the time if they even try to hide it in some way or explain it.

Timeline don't fit whole thing. Anders should be with gray wardens for few years after Awakening ends.

The most funny part in this game was when I played blood mage :-D I was running with a huge staff on my back and long colorful skirt.
Then some NPC idiot ask me "Are you a mage ?"... like skirt, staff, fried bodies, glowing and flames coming out from my hand didn't give him a hint... Rotfl...
Still, templars, mages or chantry don't give a sh** that I'm a blood mage :-) But why they should ? In DA II, blood mages, daemons and stuff like that was walking everywhere.

[Dariuszp]

@Elhanan , CHALLENGE ACCEPTED! :-)

Thanks for the opening invitation. Dear Mr Hater:

// Like a said. Call me a hater but this was my opinion, why i didn't enjoy DA II.

1 - And right out of the gate comes Subjective Opinion, followed by Blatant Misinformation. It is seemingly a no-show for Lower Difficulty, but Target Stupid People appears to have taken the lead. IMO.

--// There will be always a casual players but is there any different between casual and non-casual players ? I'm casual player in fact. But still I enjoy games. I enjoy challenges. If there is no challenge, there is no game. Game is something that you play. You can win or lose. When you lower difficult to point where there is almost no challenge. What is the point of calling it a game ? In few years we will probably see only "interactive animation" called "Dragon Age X - Last man stand"...

2 - The inclusion of Companion Armor Upgrades seems to help speed the game along as a plus. As a minus, much of the armor obtained in the game goes unseen. And with only "2-3" armor sets per person, it would seem to be more difficult for "stupid people" to mix armor parts w/o the matching Garanimals tags. Or is this the actual problem for you?

--// Because ARMOR SET look good as a whole. You probably mix Adidas shoes with skirt and suit. That's just smart. Yes, you can mix it but then try t o mix armor parts in DAO or any other RPG game. LOOOOOOOOOOT of possibilities.

3 - Junk Collection as a design inclusion is a puzzle, but one made easy to dump for sale. But perhaps the Game gives Stupid People more credit, and figures that direct adds to purses might be met with screams of "Lack of realism". One cannot be sure how little it takes to get someone enraged.

--// Yeah, you could also transfer that stuff into the money. Why you need to carry it or collect it ? Now you need to get to town because your pockets are full of junk They should add pet like in some hack & slash games that carry all that junk into the town and sell it for you
Why one must collect and carry junk in this game ? That's the question. No point. If there is no point - why it's still there ?

4 - Perhaps Stupid People do not wish to wander to 20 different locations one time? Or maybe since Hawke is living in the same city for a decade, he learns that one may find more cargo in the Docks rather than the Chantry? If one does not like Fantasy Concentration, one does not always have to play.Hence many such quests are called Secondary (in case Stupid people were reading).

--// Yeah, variety of things is a problem in your opinion i see. You just prove my point there Sorry but when you play something for few hours you expect that something change. When you travel 20 time to the same location to kill monsters in the same god dam place, and then you find chest or flower in the same stupid place as before you just feel that there is something not right here...
Still, there is certain kind of people (like i said before) that don't want changes. They want same thing over and over again...

5 - Spawning opponents used as a difficulty factor! The Gaul! The Romans! Maybe it happens so often as to train Stupid People? Then based on some posts, it would seem many here are still untrained. Depends anuone?

--// Quantity over quality right ? Yeah, some people like that. It's better to have 10 stones than one diamond.

6 - Random loot tables bothering you? Static loot tables bothering you? Life hating you? Take the +5 sword of Uber where you got it, and move along.

--// You probably didn't understand. I will try to say it sloooower just for you. Random loot didn't bothering me but this game is all about random loot. When I was killing a dragon I get some nice items to use. When i kill a thug, there were just pocket money. When i hunt someone famous or hight ranked i expect something good from him (well... from his dead body ). Random stuff are nice but where is the point if dragons, officers and other good enemies give you random junk and thug give you sword +5 to everything with glow etc ?
* THERE IS NO POINT IN FINDING GOOD LOOT BECAUSE IT"S ALL RANDOM *. You will get good item anyway. Why you even try to look for it ?
Then you got games like Gothic. Game where you could find a cave with nice good looking and powerfull Dragonslayer. You could find cave or hidden place not related to story that have good stuff in hard to reach locations. It was fun to take a break and try to check remote parts of the map.
Here you have few claustrophobic locations with random loot. Not fun at all.
Sorry but sometimes designed, custom made, nice named sword WITH SOME STORY AROUND IT was just nice in RPG. Try older games when you even got written that story somewhere.
You probably one of this fresh players that don't even remember games like Baldurs Gate, Planescape Tourment, Fallout, Gothic, Arcanum, Divine Divinity and older titles...
Games didn't improve. They got nice graphic design but everything else is getting worst and worst.

7 - Predetermined outcome does eliminate some results, but not neccessarily choice. If one helps or declines to aid a friend to do something Stupid, that does not mean that the results will change, but the choice is still there. Or were you expecting Pavlovian milkbones?

--// Well I suggest to play games that are really for mature players. Dragon Age is +18 in theory but remove all those exploding enemies (well, exploding part mostly) and you got game for kids. Almost all choices in this game docent matter. Few of them does. And it's only for 5 min. You just get different cut scene.
Try Witcher EE for example (and Witcher 2 after May 17). Most of choices matter. Yes, you get different cut scene and you think that it's all but then again - sometimes after few hours or few minutes that one choice in a side quest just fire at you making the game different. You got 3 different endings (in Witcher 2 there will be 16). And it's not about seeing some stupid pictures + text in the end. There ARE different endings.
Here in DAII i refuse to do something but I did get a job anyway. Then again i chose different options while I was playing. Some dialogs was little different but outcome was the same. And when something is done then it's done.
I killed a templar ? Why there were no consequence in this ? I was a blode mage. Why there were no consequences ? You got chocies but where is the point in them when you have the same outcome ?
Try Witcher. You will understand. 60 hours of great story, nice world, good mechanics etc. This game have some week points but it's far better than DA II.
{* SPOILER *} End of the game was great example. Whatever you choose, church blow up and you killed both the girl and the mage {* / SPOILER }
Best part of games like Witcher is that sometimes there is NO GOOD / BAD anser. Sometimes all are evil, sometimes you got just gray (someone will cry anyway), sometimes you chose between lesser evil. Sometims you don't need to choose or you try to stay neutral. Sometimes you just have good "good and bad" chocies. And most of them will turn from good to bad or from bad to good few hours in the game when you will not even have savegame from the moment you made it.

8 - Greatswords have you vexed due to appearance and size? Try using a Battleaxe or Maul; maybe even.. I dunno.. a smaller weapon? Maybe Stupid People actually got this one; well most anyway.

--// Yeah. Bigger than you, two-handed weapon that is tossed around with one hand and crazy speed just fell normal. No point arguing there. How you even use or carry around weapon that is bigger than you ?

9 - Time again? Or spam? If one wants to slow the game one can increase difficulty; too long may lower to avoid reloads. As Stupid People cannot play long games, and my first sessions were 111+ hrs; 77+ hrs. Thank you!

--// Witcher - around 60 hours. DAO around 40 hours. DA II cut by half. And the only thing it's even take this time it's because waves of ninjas from the sky...

10 - Continuity an issue? Continence? Personally I like some of the redesign (eg; +10 Awesome Flemeth), and dislike other bits (eg; Darkspawn; Elves). Thing is, art tends to be that way, and using the same stuff every time may placate Stupid People, but may not please the majority.

--// Redesign is good when you IMPROVE something.
Flemeth was old women with some ragged dress that i killed. It was when the blight begin. Here in the same time we see her in some fancy dragon armor. Nothing like Flemeth from DAO. It didn't have any explanation with this. Still i would understand it it would be just that old lady but...
Darkspawns look like clowns. In DAO there were monsters. Now you got clowns.
Qunari look nice but sorry. I didn't expect them to have horns in less than a year. I remember Sten and Qunari in fade. How the hell they got horns now ?
Loot of things was not improved but redesigned. Because of that game lost sense of continuation.

Still, i think that Varik is just simple minded and that's why this game is some simple and have no sense. Dam Varik. Still no point for you to pick it up It's just my humble opinion about the game.
It's nice for someone to enjoy it but that person should not tell me what i should like and what i should not.
I just told WHY i didn't like the game. Respect that.
You like lack of choices that have some impact on the character and gameplay (REAL IMPACT), lack of items, locations, dialog options, nice quests etc but i don't. I remember good old days when bunch of people manage to create game that i love even now. And the same company release crap when they had everything on the plate.
DA:O was good (but need some improvment), sell VERY well and have everything in place. And they just killed it all.

Modifié par Dariuszp, 30 avril 2011 - 02:40 .

[Chromie]

Much better

[flexxdk]

Ringo12 wrote...

Much better

Looks good.

Never played The Witcher though. After I heard all these things about cards you'd get after... "courting" women, I got a bit... well, I don't know how to explain it. I just got a bit discouraged and a bit disappointed. I found it a bit weird.

Might give it a try though. The Witcher has the same effect on me as DAO did: at first, I thought of it nothing more than a cheap WoW copy.

I was proven wrong though after a half year.

Can't wait for Skyrim, too. Looks amazing. I got Oblivion a month ago and already finished it. Usually played it til far after midnight.

Modifié par Whacka, 30 avril 2011 - 02:57 .

[v_ware]

I heard your suggestions. I'll take them in account. And I'll come back to ya.


NOOOO.
I'm sorry. DA2 is just blaaaarrgh, meh, whatever you want to call it to me. Banning me from my legaly bought singleplayer game for a forum comment didn't help either.


On another note. I'm totally siked about ME3.

Modifié par v_ware, 30 avril 2011 - 03:05 .

[flexxdk]

v_ware, I simply love your profile pic.

It's hilarious!

Sums up some of my feelings after having finished DA2.

Modifié par Whacka, 30 avril 2011 - 03:05 .

[v_ware]

Whacka wrote...

v_ware, I simply love your profile pic.

It's hilarious!

Sums up some of my feelings after having finished DA2.

I'm going to keep that pic, forever!

DA2, Remember to never forget.


WW2 references... Aah, classy.

[Dubya75]

Yxunomei wrote...


 Most of us loved Origins and Awakening..Bioware made another Epic game on a different setting (thedas) mind you apart from the forgotten realms which the community greatly accepted. I am getting tired of people whinning and complaining about why DA:2 is a complete bust etc., I am one of many that got really frustrated about the release of 1.01 patch for the xbox 360, but guys BIoware did delivered story-wise.  

Oh Ok thanks for clearing that up.

[Dariuszp]

Much much better. See this. Walking around a village:

www.youtube.com/watch

It's remind me of Gothic and first Witcher. LIVING NPC. Then try to remember Kirkwall. NPC in the same place. Few of them moving. Only few people on the street IN THE CITY full of people.

Now, see same thing in the King Foltest camp:
www.youtube.com/watch

Try to compare it to ANYTHING in BioWare games...

Attacking the walls:
www.youtube.com/watch

9Lives interwies that show and explain a loot about Witcher:
www.youtube.com/watch


Well, watch and learn Bioware. When CD Project RED develop Witcher 1, it was great game with loot of crap. Crap because game had loooooot of bugs (some of them high caliber when you could not finish the game) and veeeeerryyyyyyyyy looooong loading time. Also NPC was really repetitive. You could see some folks in 10 copies.
What CD Project RED do with that ?

They tell that this was their first game.
They admit that game have problems.
Then they fix it. Giving us patches.
The reduce loading by 80%.
They add variety of the NPC.
They release enhanced edition of the game with all problems fixed. EE got few side stories and tools for developing players own story.
They give it all to download by players without EE.
They learned on that and they preparing Witcher 2.

Watch and learn BioWare before you get us DA III. Learn because Witcher 1 was on aurora engine from YOU. Engine that powered Neverwinter Nights. Witcher look nothing like NN.

Modifié par Dariuszp, 30 avril 2011 - 04:03 .

[Huntress]

wicked_being wrote...

With all due respect to the DA writers team, but I think DA2's story just didn't make sense. Maybe it's because DA2 was "rushed" that the team wasn't able to fully realize/implement the story they wanted to tell, who knows. Timeline was messed up, decisions didn't carry much weight (if any at all), Hawke's rise to power just felt forced and lot of things just didn't fit ie. *SPOILERS* fighting waves of abominations even though you're a mage and you sided with the mages.

I agree with you 100%, and I really like DA2.

The thing is when you help Mages you get NO power at all.. Players who saved Mages leave with the knowlege of what ever transpire in there, thats is all.
Please forgive me when I say the end of DA2 sux, big time and I can't change that because, it does.

I do not know where bioware is going, but, can we finish one of the hero's adventures? please?

Many players likes open ends but... not like this.. for real DAO had better ends, and they were just as bad.

[Elhanan]

Dariuszp wrote... *snip*

1 - The game was not challening to you. Got it.

I found it challenging, and more so; intriguing all on Normal settings.. Now I will not likely ever try Nightmare settings due to special circumstance and Friendly Fire, but you may enjoy that more. If that was your setting of choice, then you may return to the Twich game of your choice, as I tnd to avoid all of them.

2 - You want more armor sets? One may get the new DLC, or take a look for mods in the Nexus if on PC. For myself, I desire the best in each slot available, and hope it looks decent. If that is an item set: great! Worked well for my Rogue, but used different pieces for my Mage. And I had lots of options already; just added more.

3 - Have no idea why we collected junk; just dumped it at closest shop and moved along. What I did not do was allow it to ruin my day, nor rant of it on the Forums.

4 - I like variety just fine; just do not see the reasoning to get upset that one finds stuff in the same place someone else used to store stuff. Kinda the purpose for safety deposit boxes, ain't it?

5 - You do not like waves and spawns the entire game, and many seem to agree. Bioware appears to be working on that for the next title, but for now it stays. I am lucky cause I do not mind it; maybe a bit with spiders, but few like spiders.

6 - Loot is far from all random. Take a look at DA2 Wiki for item locations, and then you can return to apologize. And I have been playing RPG's since 1975.

7 -  Any game I tend to play is for mature gamers! See above!

And since I have been plaiying games a long time, I happen to know that Choice does not always define the effect. One may choose to use coersion, or keep it friendly for the same results. The choice is still there, and still allows one to RP character and the PC. And while you choose to include Spoilers in a non-spoiler forums, I choose another way, as when I mentioned a friend might dosomething stupid whether or not you help them or not. Just because you are The Champion does not always mean you will determine the actions of others. Sometimes things just go *BOOM*

8 - If you do not like the appearance of greatswords, use something else, or use a mod if possible; reason I dis not use mauls in DAO.

9 - Time played: appears to vary by the indv. Surprise!  I am still playing, and have more time invested. If you wanted, you could choose higher difficulty, go solo, or both as some do occasionally. Or add a mod if possible.

10 - Changes occur; sometimes in reverse. Old Klngons looked like green humans. More recent Klingons have ridges, cause ridges have Ruffles! Plus they included explanations for the changes in the stories as well as outdide the shows,
 
Maybe Sten lost his horns when he was struck down, and that scavenger sold them as potion ingredient?. Maybe all the Qun lose their horns in Ferelden due to allergies? Maybe Fkemeth is younger in appeaance because a shard of her survived DAO, and she had been released? Imagination use is quite helpful in solving issues; don't always need the Devs to your thinking for you,

Yep; you have th right to an informed opinion, and I respect that. However, I do not have to respect anyone that continues to call others Stupid People. And I find nothing humble about your stated opinion.

[Tommy6860]

Yxunomei wrote...

@Sabriana

What I meant is they did a good job on creating a new setting outside DnD.

OK, I can see where you do mean that in your OP, therefor I apologize for the criticism on that part. But I won't back down on your "whining" comments.

[Night Prowler76]

I didnt think the story was that great to be honest. It was just average for me.

[Dariuszp]

@Elhanan,
Yes, game is challenging on high difficult settings. Still, some stuff like friendly fire should be even on normal. It's funny how your character walk around in sea of flames but some thug with short stick hit him and do damage
Your answer to lack of armor etc. Buy them for the game you bought. Yeah, really something
Well, you have no idea why we collect junk. I have no idea. They have no idea. Bioware will probably learn something now. Still, I was having impression that they knew such stuff.
About "ninja from the sky" thing. You say that they working on that. If DA II would be their first game then it's OK. Everybody learns. But it's not their fist, not even last. And they didn't do this before so much.
Want to see mature game ? Try Witcher. Part one is nice (but some folks complain about fighting solution they used - need to try it for yourself), part 2 will probably make look Dragon Age II like amateurs game. Well see in less than 3 weeks from now.
Anyway, as i say, RED used BioWare engine from NN. See NN:
http://agard.pl/gale...-diame_1067.jpg
Now the Witcher:
http://www.gamershel...271933_full.jpg

All actions have short or long consequences. RPG is just like that. Whatever you do now will have impact on the future. Witcher (again) is like that. Bioware games mostly not. It would be nice to see something that really have some impact later. And impact that really change something. That would be nice. This is i think, Bioware games lack.
Even when i import save from ME1 to ME2 or from DAO to DAII there were NO real changes in gameplay or story :/
I will probably try to mod this game a little later. Hell, i bought it and i don't like it but history shows that community can do great things for their games. See Gothic 3 for example. Oryginal was bad in my opinion but after few community patches and mods, game is nice. Hope to see something like that here.

And excuse me but i didn't call anyone stupid here (well, directly... eee... ehm... ). I just say that most of the changes WAS for stupid people. If you make game more complex or more challenging. If you add variety of things or change nothing then you got next product.
But if you get game of the year, strip it from everything that was good and make it stupid simple then tell me please:
TO WHAT KIND OF PEOPLE ALL THAT CHANGES WERE MADE ?

Then again i didn't call stupid, people who play it or enjoy it. I played and there were parts of the game that i enjoy. But all changes remind me of one cheap game (Rally something...). They add some stuff etc but you should see face of my friend when i show him that you can win race just by pressing FORWARD :-D Car just kick around corners and get back on track. No other car was faster than you.
Here, about 75% of fights you can win by just pressing R on normal settings. Try that and see (I was playing warrior when i test that :-D - mages dont have stamina to do that but someone can try).

Modifié par Dariuszp, 30 avril 2011 - 04:59 .