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Bioware, bring back Jade Empire


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Volourn

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Yeah, I should poinjt out I'm a little more harsh than I should be with Bg since I loved BG when I first played it and it'll always a 'soft spot' in my gaming heart since it was my first BIO game but it just doesn't hold up as much (like say BG2).

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Volourn wrote...

Yeah, I should poinjt out I'm a little more harsh than I should be with Bg since I loved BG when I first played it and it'll always a 'soft spot' in my gaming heart since it was my first BIO game but it just doesn't hold up as much (like say BG2).


I think a good comparison is to what the original Half-Life was for first person shooters. I still occasionally play it for nostalgia reasons/enjoyment and the game was extremely influential, but it simply hasn't aged well in comparison to other first person shooters out there.

Edit: I should also point out that it is not simply an issue of age. Original Planescape/BG2 came out some time ago, yet I still think those games hold up quite well even against more recent titles.

Modifié par Il Divo, 30 avril 2011 - 03:56 .


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would love to see JE2...especially if i can create my own character.


let it be known that i prefer to have a silent protaganist i created, then some talking one.

Shepard was awesome don't get me wrong, Hawk..........kinda meh to be, mostly cause i hated having to be a human when there are other sentient races in society.

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The Asian style stuff was a huge turn-down for me. Though the game had some good moments, the overall style simply started to annoy me...sadly.

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I think discussions about JE2 don't belong here. But I liked the first, so I would probably like the 2nd. Unless they go DA2 on it, then they can as well not do it. I've had enough waves and explosions for the rest of my RPG career.

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TheShadowWolf911 wrote...

would love to see JE2...especially if i can create my own character.


let it be known that i prefer to have a silent protaganist i created, then some talking one.

Shepard was awesome don't get me wrong, Hawk..........kinda meh to be, mostly cause i hated having to be a human when there are other sentient races in society.


It would be quite interesting to play a half human with you being able to pick your demon heritage and thus bonus powers.

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"would love to see JE2...especially if i can create my own character."

You doc reate your own character much like DA series. You just don't choose your history.

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Jade Empire is one of my favourite games! I really hope they make a sequel :)

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AxecObl

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I've been waiting for JE2 ever since I played the first. I would definitely buy it.

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rayvioletta

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Volourn wrote...

"would love to see JE2...especially if i can create my own character."

You doc reate your own character much like DA series. You just don't choose your history.


actually JE had several characters to chose from but you could not customise appearance

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Just played JE and all I can say is

"Good lord, Bioware have already been focusing on the actiony, button-mashing console games even before EA came along. Why do we act all blame EA when it's obvious that Bioware had already several attempts in creating a more action-oriented game? For goodness sake, I can't even create my OWN character."

In all seriousness, give JE2 to the original JE lead designer Laidlaw and choose another lead designer for DA. In that case, everyone is happy and Bioware has DA which will appeal to the hardcore market, JE to the button-mashing action crowd, and ME to the shooter fans.

Modifié par Savber100, 30 avril 2011 - 05:37 .


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AlexXIV, how could Bioware 'go DA2' on JE2? Do you mean rushing the game? Because JE is an action RPG. It features exploding bodies and sometimes waves. Hence the point of this thread. Bioware should develop JE as their over the top action RPG IP as it suits the IP and people's perceptions of it while keeping DA a CRPG franchise.

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Skilled Seeker

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Show your support people so that Bioware notices this proposal. It would make all parties happy!

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Alex Kershaw

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Never played it but before DA2, Jade Empire was Bioware's worst ever RPG with 89/100 metacritic score. DA2 is way behind that with 82/100, but still, if Bioware were to choose to bring back one franchise, Jade Empire would be my last choice.

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I approve, Jade Empire has really it's own flavor and we didn't get to know it's world all to much in the first game. I really hope to see a return of this franchise one day.

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"actually JE had several characters to chose from but you could not customise appearance"

Making a character is more than just appearance.


"Jade Empire was Bioware's worst ever RPG with 89/100 metacritic score."

Sonic was rated worse and it's turn absed. Many of the expansions inclyuding Awakenings was rated worse. Ratings aside, BG1 and KOTOR are both FAR worse than JE. And, the DAs and MEs aren't any better role-playing wise despite JE being an action rpg (much like ME series). JE had some of the best characters ever in a BIO game, some awesome quests, and a top nttch story. You either liked the action combat or you didn't. *shrug*

JE > KOTOR

No contest.

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I played Jade Empire years ago. The game had some good moments, but it was nothing special for me. I have no interest for a new Jade Empire game.
The Dragon Age games are much better than Jade Empire. Bioware should concentrate on the DA franchise, there is so much potential in this series.

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Why one or the other? Bioware clearly wants to make an action RPG to attract the action RPG audience. Do you want DA to be turned into an action RPG?

I'm saying Bioware already have a perfectly acceptable unique action RPG IP that they can develop rather than turning DA into an action RPG.

I'm not asking you to like JE, just to see the wisdom in this idea and how it would benefit all parties because right now different people want different things from DA due to al these changes.

Modifié par Skilled Seeker, 30 avril 2011 - 10:09 .


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I would have killed for a Jade Empire sequel years ago but seeing what BioWare do in their "sequels" I'd rather it be left unblemished.

Not doubt it would contain a new cast of characters when the best thing about JE were the characters. They were all awesome, likable characters. In JE2 BioWare would probably swap them for a bunch of unintersting, potty-mouth, sex-obsessed, back-stabbing psycho a-holes.

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I like the point the OP is making.

Here is an added thought: Jade Empire actually was an action RPG. DA II is a horrible hybrid between action RPG and CRPG. It mixes elements of both and annoyes the fans of both genres.

Personnally, I like both types of games: I enjoyed the fast paced button meshing combat of JE and the slower, tactical combat in DAO. I might have liked the combat in DA II, too. If not for the countless enemy waves and the endless supply of HP of bosses. It made what was supposed to be exciting into boring grinding matches.

Also, JE had a great story and very enjoyable companions (the baker was perhaps the most unusual I have ever seen).

So yes, please make JE2.

But please don't dump Mike Laidlaw on it. As sympathetic as he comes across, a lead designer who doesn't stop morronic ideas like junk items deserves to get fired!

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ScepticMatt

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Hmm ... I didn't know Jade Empire was released on PC *checks steam page*

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Jade Empire 2 hell yes, but seriously Bioware take your time if thats going to happen. JE 2>DA2 could only end in lots of hate.

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The only problem with this discussion is that it is off topic for the DA II forum...

Please discuss in the Jade Empire forum or Off-Topic forum.

Thanks,