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[SennenScale]

ReconTeam wrote...

Captain Shepard?
General Shepard?
Or some really drawn out title like Lord Colonel Commissar Shepard?

I submit an alternate: Commandeering Of Mission Materials Acquisition and N7-certified Diplomatic/Economic Relations officer.

Modifié par SennenScale, 30 avril 2011 - 10:55 .

[Alpha-Centuri]

captain jack sparrow
captain america
captain nemo
captain hook
captain han solo
captain barbosa
captain davy jones
captain black beard
captain ahab

I like commander. But don't think that Captains are slouches

[Abispa]

Commodore. Any time some old guy showed up in the original Star Trek series with that rank, you KNEW he was nuts.

[TobiTobsen]

Pfff.... trial against Shepard... demotion... war against the Batarians or execution to appease them. Nothing of that.

Shepard will dance on the burning wreckage of the last reaper, with the dead bodies of the judges, the council and everybody else who wants to screw him over, at his feet and he will sing: You can fight like a krogan, you can run like a leopard, but you'll never be better than Commander Shepard!

[JunMadine]

While I agree that shepard should be either captain or full commander I don't see this happening. Mostly because of laziness on the devs part. Also maybe some attachment to the title commander. If they haven't done this yet they won't do it. Re-recording the dialogue to say captain is too much effort.

[DPSSOC]

Someone With Mass wrote...

Again, if you want your stupid promotion, just make sure to keep your Spectre status. It's better than any promotion out there.

I earned that long before I saved the galaxy the first time let alone the second.  The Council is not honouring me or rewarding me they are returning what is rightfully mine (I may have a slight sense of entitlement).

I do see your point that Shepard's actions kind of make the whole thing a wash at best (good you've done balancing crimes you've comitted) but I still want my gold star, a pat on the back, and a "You did good Shepard."  I think I've earned these meaningless, valueless, effortless gestures of acknowledging the fact that all of existence owes me big.

[General User]

With London in such peril, maybe Shepard could save the city and get a knighthood!

[Bluko]

 Do we actually know whether or not Shepard was promoted at all after the Battle of the Citadel? Isn't possible Shepard could be Staff Commander in ME2?

How'd Alenko climb up the ranks so damn fast anyways? And did Bioware make him a higher rank then what Shepard was? Should have played it safe with Lt. Commander if you ask me.

[crimzontearz]

I have only ONE thing to say

If Ashley ever dares to even think to pull seniority on my shepard I am going to airlock her at the first opportunity

[PrinceLionheart]

MisterJB wrote...

Shadowrun1177 wrote...

I don't remember Bioware ever saying that Shepard's Spectre status being removed by the Council. Shepard is on trial on Earth cause he's a human and the Arrival mission was an "unofficial Alliance" mission from Hackett an Alliance Admiral.

Saren was a turian and his trial was not on Palaven. Only the Council has authority over Spectres, if Shepard is being judged by an Alliance court, then he is no longer a Spectre.
Besides, Saren lost his status for much less than what Shepard did.

Plus Bioware isn't above forcing a plot twist on you. Technically, you can reject getting reinstated in the second game. The sole fact has me convinced that you will be stripped of your position in the third game.

[crimzontearz]

also........

it is not past bioware to just say "oh hey, here's what is happening, yeah I know it is not exactly coherent but that's what's going on"

pretty much the same thing that happened in ME2 when all you want to do is go to Anderson and say


"hey man, Cerberus brought me back, gave me a several billion dollars frigate with an AI....now can you please arrest all the cerberus personnel in it and give me some alliance soldiers to fight off the collectors? oh and while you are at it how about cracking that AI so we can find out wqhere the illusive man is so I can go try out my new Thanix cannon"

[DPSSOC]

General User wrote...

With London in such peril, maybe Shepard could save the city and get a knighthood!

This would be acceptable

Bluko wrote...
How'd Alenko climb up the ranks so damn fast anyways? And did Bioware make him a higher rank then what Shepard was? Should have played it safe with Lt. Commander if you ask me.

His work with Shepard probably earned him a promotion (probably where Ash got hers) which would bring him up to Lt Commander.  After that he's a powerful biotic and a damn fine officer it's not beyond the realm of plausibility that in 2 years he got another promotion.  Alternatively he slept with the right people.

[absolutegus]

DPSSOC wrote...

Alpha-Centuri wrote...
My apologies. You're right I believe. But how does that explain Captain Anderson, who's actual rank was Captain? He was a N7 marine.

It's clear that it wasn't colloquial use, because when he loses the Normandy, he is still Captain. I think you are right, but if you could explain that to me, I'd be most appreciative.

No need to apologize it's just a minor irritant that's been building up since people started speculating about ME2 (and whether we'd get a promotion).  So long time coming.

As for Anderson I don't really know.  Maybe because they both answer to the same command structure (as opposed to Army and Navy or Army and Air Force) one can transfer between them while maintaining rank?  Meaning he was an N7 marine but decided he didn't want to at some point (tired of watching friends die, getting shot, etc.) so he transferred from ground forces to navy.

Or it could just be one of those ideas Bioware didn't think all the way through (these things happen).

Bioware 1: Ok so we'll have a kind of mentor character who'll start out as Shepard's CO on the Normandy
Bioware 2: Ok then Captain Anderson
B1: And we'll want the player to feel a connection with him so we'll have him be a former Spectre candidate himself
B2: Ok
B1: And an N7 Marine
B2: Sounds good
Bioware 3: Wait don't ground forces and navy have ...
B1 & B2: Shut up Gregory.

I think BioWare hasn't been being very careful with the ranks. While on the Migrant Fleet one of the quarians refers to Shepard as "Captain", and I believe Shepard has the option of saying something along the lines of "Well, I never actually made it to Captain" as if it would be a normal progression of ranking. Along with Anderson being a Captain, it's likely an oversight on their part.

[SennenScale]

absolutegus wrote...
I think BioWare hasn't been being very careful with the ranks. While on the Migrant Fleet one of the quarians refers to Shepard as "Captain", and I believe Shepard has the option of saying something along the lines of "Well, I never actually made it to Captain" as if it would be a normal progression of ranking. Along with Anderson being a Captain, it's likely an oversight on their part.

I thought all the military branches were merged in the ME universe, though? With only a few differences (servicemen v. private) being kept as a point of pride?

[Dante Angelo]

I think Shepard should become a Grey Warden oh wait wrong game

Modifié par Dante Angelo, 01 mai 2011 - 02:37 .

[absolutegus]

SennenScale wrote...

I thought all the military branches were merged in the ME universe, though? With only a few differences (servicemen v. private) being kept as a point of pride?

It's mentioned earlier in the thread, but the Codex entry about Military Ranks lists the ranks as:


ENLISTED

• Serviceman 3rd class/Private 2nd class
• Serviceman 2nd class/Private 1st class
• Serviceman 1st class/Corporal

NCOs

• Service Chief
• Gunnery Chief
• Operations Chief

OFFICERS

• 2nd Lieutenant
• 1st Lieutenant
• Staff Lieutenant
• Lieutenant Commander
• Staff Commander
• Captain/Major
• Rear Admiral/General
• Admiral
• Fleet Admiral

So there does seem to be a distinction between Captain and Major.

Modifié par absolutegus, 01 mai 2011 - 03:18 .

[Seboist]

Dante Angelo wrote...

I think Shepard should become a Grey Warden oh wait wrong game

Shepard will have to drink Collector blood to become one.

[SennenScale]

^@absolutegus:Ah, thanks for clearing that up then. I thought it was just the lower ranks that made a distinction, for some reason.

Back on topic...I don't think Shepard needs a promotion, though it would be nice. I doubt either VS will be able to pull rank on Commander Shepard, of all people.

Modifié par SennenScale, 01 mai 2011 - 03:26 .

[crimzontearz]

SennenScale wrote...

^@absolutegus:Ah, thanks for clearing that up then. I thought it was just the lower ranks that made a distinction, for some reason.

Back on topic...I don't think Shepard needs a promotion, though it would be nice. I doubt either VS will be able to pull rank on Commander Shepard, of all people.

if Shepard remains an Lt commander and is stripped of his Spectre status then  the VS (being that it seems they7 have become spectres now) could technically pull rank

-cue my shepard jamming a Geth pulse rifle up Ash's butt and firing a charged shot-

the idea revolts me SO much

[SennenScale]

crimzontearz wrote...

SennenScale wrote...

^@absolutegus:Ah, thanks for clearing that up then. I thought it was just the lower ranks that made a distinction, for some reason.

Back on topic...I don't think Shepard needs a promotion, though it would be nice. I doubt either VS will be able to pull rank on Commander Shepard, of all people.

if Shepard remains an Lt commander and is stripped of his Spectre status then  the VS (being that it seems they7 have become spectres now) could technically pull rank

-cue my shepard jamming a Geth pulse rifle up Ash's butt and firing a charged shot-

the idea revolts me SO much

Just because they technically could doesn't mean they're stupid enough to try. And if they were, it's not happening on Shepard's own ship.

Besides which, if the Virmire Survivor IS in fact a spectre and Shepard isn't, no amount of promotions will make Shepard able to technically pull rank, so the promotion is worthless unless Shepard's reinstated as a Spectre.

Modifié par SennenScale, 01 mai 2011 - 03:34 .

[crimzontearz]

SennenScale wrote...

crimzontearz wrote...

SennenScale wrote...

^@absolutegus:Ah, thanks for clearing that up then. I thought it was just the lower ranks that made a distinction, for some reason.

Back on topic...I don't think Shepard needs a promotion, though it would be nice. I doubt either VS will be able to pull rank on Commander Shepard, of all people.

if Shepard remains an Lt commander and is stripped of his Spectre status then  the VS (being that it seems they7 have become spectres now) could technically pull rank

-cue my shepard jamming a Geth pulse rifle up Ash's butt and firing a charged shot-

the idea revolts me SO much

Just because they technically could doesn't mean they're stupid enough to try. And if they were, it's not happening on Shepard's own ship.

really? are you using the "they would not be that stupid" defense?

REALLY?

do you remember Horizon?

Ash: TRAITOR! You never even let me know you were alive...
Shepard:.....uh...I died, and anderson said your status was classified
Ash: PFFFFFT and you work for cerberus
Shepard:......they brought me back to life and I am not working for them
Garrus: yeah I mean I am working with him too and I'm freatking TURIAN!
Ash: LALALALALALALALALA can't hear you LALALALALALALALALA reporting to the alliance

[SennenScale]

crimzontearz wrote...

really? are you using the "they would not be that stupid" defense?

REALLY?

do you remember Horizon?

Ash: TRAITOR! You never even let me know you were alive...
Shepard:.....uh...I died, and anderson said your status was classified
Ash: PFFFFFT and you work for cerberus
Shepard:......they brought me back to life and I am not working for them
Garrus: yeah I mean I am working with him too and I'm freatking TURIAN!
Ash: LALALALALALALALALA can't hear you LALALALALALALALALA reporting to the alliance

I also said that if they were being stupid, it won't happen on Shepard's ship. Doesn't matter if they could or would. Pulling rank on Shepard is unlikely to work unless plot-armor and plot-fu foil Shep.

Technically, working for Cerberus is traitorus. It was bad writing for Bioware to make they call you out on a "decision" you couldn't actually make (not working for Cerberus), but a realistic reaction.

[crimzontearz]

a "realistic reaction" that should be mitigated by the fact that she just survived from an attack from a race that the alliance is saying is not involved (or worse does not exist) and that Cerberus is actually fighting.....and the fact that the alliance tore down shepard making him look like a lunatic after his death even if Ash was RIGHT THERE on Ilos possibly even talking to vigil. That is even WORSE if she was your LI (thankfully I romanced Liara)

sorry it's freaking retarded

[SennenScale]

crimzontearz wrote...

a "realistic reaction" that should be mitigated by the fact that she just survived from an attack from a race that the alliance is saying is not involved (or worse does not exist) and that Cerberus is actually fighting.....and the fact that the alliance tore down shepard making him look like a lunatic after his death even if Ash was RIGHT THERE on Ilos possibly even talking to vigil. That is even WORSE if she was your LI (thankfully I romanced Liara)

sorry it's freaking retarded

I never heard any dialogue saying Ash didn't defend you, and if she did, do you really think a ground soldier would be enough to change people's minds? A ground soldier who was associated with Commander Shepard? Anything the VS said was discounted out of hand. They still called you a hero to NPC, even, and their dialogue seems to point to the VS feeling "betrayed" by their almighty hero, Commander Shepard.

Also, remember that those colonists willingly left Alliance/Council space for the Terminus systems. Which is outside Alliance/Council jurisdiction. IIRC, some of the colonists are there for THAT VERY REASON. The only reason they need to be protected in the first place is because the colonists are being idiots. Not to say that I won't protect them regardless, but the alliance isn't actually obligated to help them. If I understand right, they can't without risking war, being part of the council races now. Unfortunate, but understandable.

The problem is that you're being called out on a decision you never made, IMO.

Modifié par SennenScale, 01 mai 2011 - 04:02 .