I thought this was an issue that was supposed to be fixed, but i've just completed her quest, her clan got killed and....so...it just ends? i went to her house but she just has her same old dialogue. Is this supposed to happen? Does her final resolution quest..thing trigger a bit later on?
er, is Merrill's final quest "the new path" not supposed to have resolution?
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zapkeet
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 12:32
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Um...I know that theres more, but it might be related to your Friendship/Rivalry with her.
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 12:39
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she's fairly neutral, but runs more towards the friendship side....
still though, i would think there would be SOME resolution here despite the affection with her, but you can only get her to talk about the clan if you have friendship/rivalry?
still though, i would think there would be SOME resolution here despite the affection with her, but you can only get her to talk about the clan if you have friendship/rivalry?
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 12:51
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, just went back to sundermount and now she's saying how everyone should have left....except they're all dead now...
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 01:19
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Did Merrill destroy the Eluvian? If the clan was killed, that should have been the scene you received when you spoke with her in her house.
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 01:28
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nope, i didn't receive any scene, and the Eluvian is still in her house. I killed the clan, got to her house, talked to her and all she said was how her house is always a mess
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 01:44
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Did you apply the patch prior to Act 3?
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 01:50
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There is supposed to be a cutscene at her house in which she crys and breaks the mirror, but it's bugged. Her entire questline is bugged actually.
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 02:01
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Maria Caliban wrote...
Did you apply the patch prior to Act 3?
yup, i started a new game like....4 weeks after the patch. the difference was i never got the crying cutscene with her at the beginning of act 3....I never got it at all....
did that happen to anyone else post patch?
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Posté 01 mai 2011 - 03:59
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just beat my second playthrough.....nothing
eh, oh well, it was probably because i didn't have a decent rivalry/friendship with her, so the game couldn't calculate what she did with the mirror
eh, oh well, it was probably because i didn't have a decent rivalry/friendship with her, so the game couldn't calculate what she did with the mirror
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 06:37
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zapkeet wrote...
just beat my second playthrough.....nothing
eh, oh well, it was probably because i didn't have a decent rivalry/friendship with her, so the game couldn't calculate what she did with the mirror
I was at 100% friendship w/ Merill since act 2 (2nd playthrough) and still never got the scene where she destroyed the mirror. I gave the fragment to her and killed her clan (although my next playthrough I will take responsibility instead of letting the clan know Marethai was possesed). It sucks because I'd feel better knowing Merrill recognizes that blood magic is not the answer. Instead she's a cliffhanger, still a major magnet for demons.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 06:55
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venusara wrote...
I was at 100% friendship w/ Merill since act 2 (2nd playthrough) and still never got the scene where she destroyed the mirror. I gave the fragment to her and killed her clan (although my next playthrough I will take responsibility instead of letting the clan know Marethai was possesed). It sucks because I'd feel better knowing Merrill recognizes that blood magic is not the answer. Instead she's a cliffhanger, still a major magnet for demons.
She doesn't destroy the mirror if you are at full friendship. You've been supporting her blood magic decisions, if you're on her friendship path. She will only destroy the mirror at full rivalry.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 07:08
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Post patch the scenes now occur in the correct order but the Mirror still disappears at the end of the final conversation.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 07:15
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TheAwesomologist wrote...
Post patch the scenes now occur in the correct order but the Mirror still disappears at the end of the final conversation.
*sigh* Yeah, it's not supposed to disappear if she doesn't break it.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 07:26
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Mary Kirby wrote...
You've been supporting her blood magic decisions, if you're on her friendship path.
Except you haven't, not necessarily. You may well have been consistently anti-blood magic, but been pro-mage and not anti-carpentry.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 07:40
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Wulfram wrote...
Except you haven't, not necessarily. You may well have been consistently anti-blood magic, but been pro-mage and not anti-carpentry.
If you're supporting her rebuilding of the eluvian, why would you expect her to break it?
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 07:45
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Mary Kirby wrote...
Wulfram wrote...
Except you haven't, not necessarily. You may well have been consistently anti-blood magic, but been pro-mage and not anti-carpentry.
If you're supporting her rebuilding of the eluvian, why would you expect her to break it?
I wouldn't expect her to break the eluvian, but that's not the same as blood magic. At least, not as I've understood it.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 07:48
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Mary Kirby wrote...
If you're supporting her rebuilding of the eluvian, why would you expect her to break it?
"No! My clan is all I ever cared about! Everything I did, I did for them!"
As in, I think it's the whole 'I'm doing this for my people' aspect and being (or feeling) unable to ever go back to them. I didn't personally expect her to break it, but I did sort of assume she'd just hidden it away after it disappeared from her hovel, either because she didn't want the reminder or no longer saw the point.
At least, I prefered thinking that to 'well, shucks. The game's bugged again'.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 07:49
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Wulfram wrote...
I wouldn't expect her to break the eluvian, but that's not the same as blood magic. At least, not as I've understood it.
The eluvian is what she learned blood magic for. She needs it in order to repair the mirror. If you're telling her to go ahead and work on the mirror, then you are tacitly saying that you support her use of blood magic to do so.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 08:00
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Mary Kirby wrote...
Wulfram wrote...
I wouldn't expect her to break the eluvian, but that's not the same as blood magic. At least, not as I've understood it.
The eluvian is what she learned blood magic for. She needs it in order to repair the mirror. If you're telling her to go ahead and work on the mirror, then you are tacitly saying that you support her use of blood magic to do so.
Nah, I'm telling her that if she wants to fix her mirror using an ancient woodworking tool that's fine. My opinion of blood magic is better determined by all the times I've said "Blood magic is bad. One of the more obvious reasons to give her the tool is so she doesn't feel the need to use anything more dangerous.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 08:04
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ha ha Merrill is my favorate charecter but she is trcky in my mind I have no issue with the BM I have no real issue with what she is doing with the norror other than i dont understand how one artefact can rebuild her peoples glory but what I do have issue with is the fact that she has consorted with a deamon this ring alarm bells with me.
so this causes conflict and realy makes me think amd that is what and the qute kind heart nature she is sutch a contradicsion.
do I suport her and show that I am willing to trust her or do I try and hinder her efforts and try to protect her?
and this is why I love the charictor and the ark an whoever wrote her story diserves a rise. or long vacation
and i say to them from the bottom of my heart
Thank You
so this causes conflict and realy makes me think amd that is what and the qute kind heart nature she is sutch a contradicsion.
do I suport her and show that I am willing to trust her or do I try and hinder her efforts and try to protect her?
and this is why I love the charictor and the ark an whoever wrote her story diserves a rise. or long vacation
and i say to them from the bottom of my heart
Thank You
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 08:12
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Your character was inadvertently supporting her in her use of blood magic.Wulfram wrote...
Nah, I'm telling her that if she wants to fix her mirror using an ancient woodworking tool that's fine. My opinion of blood magic is better determined by all the times I've said "Blood magic is bad. One of the more obvious reasons to give her the tool is so she doesn't feel the need to use anything more dangerous.
If she heard you talk about the evil's of blood magic, she simply mentally corrected what you said to refer to 'bad blood magic that hurts people instead of good blood magic that fixes mirrors.'
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 08:13
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Good to know. I could never tell pre-patch and then i figured post-patch it disappeared because I would never go back to Merrill's house*.Mary Kirby wrote...
TheAwesomologist wrote...
Post patch the scenes now occur in the correct order but the Mirror still disappears at the end of the final conversation.
*sigh* Yeah, it's not supposed to disappear if she doesn't break it.
*Because she's a resident at the Hawke estate
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 08:27
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Maria Caliban wrote...
Your character was inadvertently supporting her in her use of blood magic.
If she heard you talk about the evil's of blood magic, she simply mentally corrected what you said to refer to 'bad blood magic that hurts people instead of good blood magic that fixes mirrors.'
Well, that's silly. Just like Anders strange belief that Hawke thinks being an Abomination is AOK despite repeated statements otherwise.
I really don't see much connection between blood magic and the mirror. It would be quite reasonable to have a character who was against fixing the spooky mirror but totally cool with blood magic.
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Posté 04 mai 2011 - 08:36
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Where's the option to buy her piles of lyrium to stop her using blood magic? She specifically mentions it as an alternative, plus my Hawke's absolutely loaded and Varric must have ties to the lyrium market. C'maaan!
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