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[1483749283]

Is the Qunari plot at all tied to the plot of mages vs. templars?

I realize beating the Quanri is how Hawke becomes Champion. But other than that, they are completely separate, right? Is there anything about the Qunari plot that feeds into the mage/templar squabble?

[Jedi Master of Orion]

Other than being what makes you Champion, not really. Althugh I suppose the Post Qunari battle situation was partially what leads to the Mage Templar conflict reached as far as it did.

Modifié par Jedi Master of Orion, 01 mai 2011 - 07:34 .

[1483749283]

Thanks. Now that you mention it, it brings up the other thing I don't understand. I thought the Arishok's defeat was supposed to start war with the Qunari. Instead they are in hightown asking for their swords back? Did I miss an interlude where they made peace or something.

[1483749283]

I got it now I think. It's the death of the Viscount leaving a power vacuum so Meredith can step in... that's the link.

[PsychoBlonde]

It will probably EVENTUALLY lead to war with the Qunari. But the Free Marches don't have the resources to attack Seheron and Par Vollen (even assuming they're interested in doing so), and the Qunari are nothing if not methodical so they're likely biding their time waiting for an opportune moment.

An opportune moment like, say, the mage circles across most of Thedas exploding into outright rebellion. *cough*

Qunari don't seem to hold grudges per se--they don't seem to take anything personally on a large scale. Look at the Arishok's reaction when you slaughter the arvaraad he sent to recover ketojan. Job got done, who cares if twenty soldiers got killed. That's what they're for. Good job beating them, though. This is not the reaction you'd get from a people that will be looking to avenge the death of their military leader. They'll invade eventually because the Qun demands it, not because of anything any stupid humans did.

[blothulfur]

Personally I think Elthinas plotting links the two events, she ordered Petrice to incite the qunari because she saw an alternative to the slavery of feudalism and false uncaring gods as dangerous to her religion and she sanctioned the brutality of Merediths templars because she was hoping to provide an example of mages turning to blood magic and demon worship thus needing to be held in check by the chantry.

She was just waiting for the right moment and a significant amount of undeniable proof that misdeeds such as Orsino and Quentins research flourished among the circle and then she would grant Meredith the right (rite) of annulment and say to the world this is why we hold these evil buggers in check.

Probably all conspiracy bullocks though, and Anders settled the matter anyway.

[Alex Kershaw]

All 3 acts are completely separate story-wise except for the canon link at the very end of each. Makes the plot really dull.

[Pandaman102]

There isn't much of a link. Even if the Viscount didn't die he had no authority over the Templars, Meredith would still be insane and paranoid from the Idol's influence, and Anders would have blown up the Chantry anyway. All it did was serve as a vehicle to give Hawke the title (and obligations) of Champion so Meredith could force him/her into picking a side.

[Demon Velsper]

What? A connecting storyline? Perish the thought! Bioware are much too busy framing the narrative in 3 year gaps where you miss most of the important bits and have to rely on NPC's to explain the things you supposedly saw yourself to worry about an overarching plot.

[Wulfram]

The power vacuum results in Meredith taking over the city as well as the order, which probably helped escalate things - it's one of Orsino's main accusations during the opening debate in the 3rd act.

Her distraction with politics may also explain why she was doing such a bad job. All those Templars in the Viscount's palace aren't doing anything to stop blood mages and abominations.