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Dark_Caduceus

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A little worried, sure, but I'm a little worried about ME3 in general, I think we all know it's going to kick ass despite all our worrying though.

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Worried, I don't want generic 'epic' music. A grand score is nice, but sometimes it's just so typical, it's boring, and that word that is used to describe said melodies is as bland as the tunes they praise.

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TwistedComplex wrote...



That wasn't a fan vid...

It's part of the official Star Trek soundtrack


Uh, I know that. I said I prefered it on THOSE TWO FAN VIDEOS.

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Clint Mansell composed this -

No, I'm not worried.

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Eradyn wrote...

Clint Mansell spins sound into gold. The music for ME3 is going to be awesome.


I'm thinking the same thing. Clint Mansell taking on Mass Effect 3 is a huge step up for Bioware--the guy could take any project he wants, and he chose ME3. Nice one, Bioware. B)

Perfecti0nist wrote...

Clint Mansell composed this - 

No, I'm not worried.


Death is the Road to Awe is much better imo, and not nearly as cliched and played out. 

Modifié par marshalleck, 02 mai 2011 - 08:14 .


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EDIT: Oh Noes! I've been Trolled!

Anyways, maybe we are screwed.

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Edit: Quoted comment edited. Editing mine because it's irrelevant now.

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Edit: Editing comment to say thanks to the guy above me for editing his comment and not making me look like an idiot.

I'll just leave now.

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As long as they keep the uncharted worlds music, vigil theme and the main mass effect theme.

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XyleJKH wrote...

As long as they keep the uncharted worlds music, vigil theme and the main mass effect theme.

Actually I didn't like how they used the Vigil music in Mass Effect 2. It's a great piece of music and it fit the scene on Ilos perfectly, but in ME2 it was just the nostalgia theme and it didn't have the same effect.

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No, because Clint Mansell is taking over.

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Imperium Alpha wrote...

Anyway ME2 soundtrack was way more shallow than ME1.

In ME1 I remember all different theme from the game (some for less good reason). The only two I remember from ME2 (but they were epic) is the one where Joker show you the Normandy SR2 and the Suicidal Mission. And LoTSB theme if we count DLC.


I'm the exact opposite. I don't understand the term "shallow" music. But I believe we can go off of music memorability; what captures the moment, and what's catchy, and something we'll likely find ourselves humming to.

What was the Noveria theme trecking up the mountain to the Peak? No idea. What was the fight music theme for Zhu's Hope? Don't remember.

Meanwhile, I can pinpoint EXACT moments in ME2 where I remember the music- like Samara's recruitment bossfight music, or the music that blares up when you first meet the Shadow Broker.

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Notanything wrote...

Worried, I don't want generic 'epic' music. A grand score is nice, but sometimes it's just so typical, it's boring, and that word that is used to describe said melodies is as bland as the tunes they praise.


Orchestrated music provides more emotion to the listener rather than the beeps and boops of ambience. The only time I feel it can be more effective, are the more eerie, creepier parts of the game; like the Collector Ship in ME2, and the abandoned freighters and facilities in ME1. ME3 will need something uplifting and inspiring... you are going against the Reapers after all...

edit: Plus the word generic is getting tossesd  around too often that it just sounds stupid now. Nothing is generic, and to the ones who think so seem to be limited to these forums and these forums only.

Modifié par Therefore_I_Am, 03 mai 2011 - 12:05 .


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FlyinElk212 wrote...

Imperium Alpha wrote...

Anyway ME2 soundtrack was way more shallow than ME1.

In ME1 I remember all different theme from the game (some for less good reason). The only two I remember from ME2 (but they were epic) is the one where Joker show you the Normandy SR2 and the Suicidal Mission. And LoTSB theme if we count DLC.




I'm the exact opposite. I don't understand the term "shallow" music. But I believe we can go off of music memorability; what captures the moment, and what's catchy, and something we'll likely find ourselves humming to.

What was the Noveria theme trecking up the mountain to the Peak? No idea. What was the fight music theme for Zhu's Hope? Don't remember.

Meanwhile, I can pinpoint EXACT moments in ME2 where I remember the music- like Samara's recruitment bossfight music, or the music that blares up when you first meet the Shadow Broker.



Because truth be told ME1's soundtrack wasn't as vast as people think. A lot of........actually most missions had the exact same themes, other than, as previously mentioned meeting virgil, the attack on the citadel, and the Virmire mission(which had some of the best music in the game). I'm not saying ME1's soundtrack was bad, I think it was great, but I think ME2 added more elements to the foundation taken from the fist game.

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i'm not worried, the DLC soundtracks weren't composed by Wall anyways and they turned out great

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No, because Clint Manswell is much better than Jack Wall and is a hollywood grade composer.

I think people are acting like Manswell is an idiot. You don't think Bioware will give him all of the music from ME and ME2 as resources and tell him to continue the feel of the music? Really?

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Notanything wrote...

Worried, I don't want generic 'epic' music. A grand score is nice, but sometimes it's just so typical, it's boring, and that word that is used to describe said melodies is as bland as the tunes they praise.


Anybody who makes complaints like this need to make sure they know what they're talking about. Clint Mansell's music is anything but generic.

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He'll be good.

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Well Jack Wall really didn't have a "continuity" between the ME1 and ME2 soundtrack anyways. For instance, the whole main theme of the games were changed completely - ME1 had a softer, more melodic sound while ME2 was more dramatic and fast paced. Both of the soundtracks fit their respective stories in the games.

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Therefore_I_Am wrote...

Notanything wrote...

Worried, I don't want generic 'epic' music. A grand score is nice, but sometimes it's just so typical, it's boring, and that word that is used to describe said melodies is as bland as the tunes they praise.


Orchestrated music provides more emotion to the listener rather than the beeps and boops of ambience. The only time I feel it can be more effective, are the more eerie, creepier parts of the game; like the Collector Ship in ME2, and the abandoned freighters and facilities in ME1. ME3 will need something uplifting and inspiring... you are going against the Reapers after all...

edit: Plus the word generic is getting tossesd  around too often that it just sounds stupid now. Nothing is generic, and to the ones who think so seem to be limited to these forums and these forums only.


There is only so much one can do with any type of music.  Orchestrated music is much too common for that it all holds little to no meaning anymore, you hear it in movies, and commercials for video games all the time, and within video games themselves.  I like ambience because it's interpretive, not saying everything should be ambient either, but the atmosphere is so much more meaningful with an ambient track, like some Overlord's soundtrack in the Geth ship.  Orchestrated scores (If you can really call them that since a lot of times it's just synthesized) seem to try and force an emotion on you rather than letting the listener immerse themselves with the atmosphere and the music as one.

They're nice, but when it comes down to it, they really are ultimately the same in today's entertainment, and music.  When the situation is coming, I can almost already hear the song being played before it's even starts.  Orchestrated music can be put in basically any situation, even from another game, or movie, and still be considered fitting.  Some might call it being adaptable, but I see it as evidence to how it is just too.. Similar.  I hear ambient music, and I know it won't work in every other soundtrack or movie out there, mostly because ambient works for that situation, and atmopshere by itself.  That's what makes it so fitting, because it's MADE for that area, and that area alone.

On the other hand, I've heard some properly done orchestrations/ambient hybrids and it works beautifully..


The difference between "generic" and "epic" is that epic IS an overused term in the modern lexicon to describe something, and basically everything that is meant to be "grand", or "spectacular".  I could easily change my wording to say it's too general, or common instead of "generic".

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They should Hire Daft Punk to do the sound track

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Terror_K wrote...

A lot of people seem to have confidence in Clint Mansell, but I too worry. It makes me concerned that the soundtrack will sound off and be even more instrumental and less sci-fi synth.


Really? Have you heard the OST to Moon before?

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synth =/= sci-fi

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bald man in a boat wrote...

synth =/= sci-fi


Synth = Mass Effect

:mellow:

Synth =/= Star Wars or Firefly.


So you should retract that argument.

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javierabegazo wrote...

Terror_K wrote...

A lot of people seem to have confidence in Clint Mansell, but I too worry. It makes me concerned that the soundtrack will sound off and be even more instrumental and less sci-fi synth.


Really? Have you heard the OST to Moon before?

I thought he was awesome with Lux Aeterna, Fountain, Smokin' Aces and so forth, but the Moon OST really solidified him in my mind as one of the top-of-the-top composers. I am totally psyched about having him for ME3 and I literally cannot wait to hear some samples.