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#101
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Shep really is Saren 2.0, severely augmented with technology

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True, Shepard is only part human now.

The impact that has on his/her reproductive ability matters little to me, although I imagine Shepard could still have a child with an asari.

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ReallyRue wrote...

True, Shepard is only part human now.

The impact that has on his/her reproductive ability matters little to me, although I imagine Shepard could still have a child with an asari.


Fingers crossed for my Liara love. ;D

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Shepard is more human than human! he is the prototype of the man machine hybrid! the Reapers dig Shep more now than ever!!

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Niddy' wrote...

Humans can only live to be 150 in 2186? ....Scientists were talking about about humans being able to live forever in the next 40 years, 8 years ago.


It's called the Manhatan Beach project to end aging. It doesn't make us imortal, exactly, here's a quote from the artical.

"The goal of the summit was “to devise scientific and business strategies with the goal of demonstrating the capability to reverse aging in an older human by 2029.” Many at the conference believe that humans are approaching something Aubrey De Grey calls “longevity escape velocity” (see the h+ article “Aubrey de Grey on ‘The Singularity’ and ‘The  Methuselarity’” in Resources). This is the point at which the yearly advances in procedures for extending human life expectancy result in adding one year to the human lifespan –- potentially making  death-by-aging a choice rather than a date with destiny."

Other scientist think that the first person to live to be 250 is alive right now and is about 15 to 20 years old. Either way, allot of people think that our life span is going to increase exponentially soon. You know, assuming our society doesn't collapse.

What were we talking about again?

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

Shepherd=new form of reaper? :o :o


This is what I'm starting to think...


That is one of the endings for ME3, Shepard gains control of a Reaper core and wanders the stars forever, keeping vigilance against all those that would do evil.

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Why would you rot in space? you would rot a little when your enzimes broke down but you would lack the bacteria that do most of the work and the fact that space is almost absolute zero would help. There is also the fact that Shepard sufficated, but still had his suit on so he would have avoided being microwaved by the sun.
Brain damage would have been minimised by the (close to) absolute zero also, and we are not told how close after him dying his body was found, it would have had to been reasonably soon or his body would have burnt up upon entering the orbit of the planet you see him above.
So when you think about it since death is simply your brain and heart stopping its not that unlikely that you could get it working again with advanced tech.
Also, on topic. If they got his balls working again why couldnt he start producing sperm again? and yeah he would probably live longer as machine assisted organs would be less likely to fail from natural means. But he is commander shepard, so hes probably going to die when he desided to end the batarian war by himself

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kaiki01 wrote...

AngelicMachinery wrote...

Reapinger wrote...

Shepherd=new form of reaper? :o :o


This is what I'm starting to think...


That is one of the endings for ME3, Shepard gains control of a Reaper core and wanders the stars forever, keeping vigilance against all those that would do evil.


Or use it to gain galactic dominance. Posted Image

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people need to try and stop applying real world science to a fictional sci-fi universe that obviously works with different rules.

are you going to star wars boards and complaining that you cant make a laser sword because lasers dont just stop when they get to sword length?

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Slidell505 wrote...

Niddy' wrote...

Humans can only live to be 150 in 2186? ....Scientists were talking about about humans being able to live forever in the next 40 years, 8 years ago.


It's called the Manhatan Beach project to end aging. It doesn't make us imortal, exactly, here's a quote from the artical.

"The goal of the summit was “to devise scientific and business strategies with the goal of demonstrating the capability to reverse aging in an older human by 2029.” Many at the conference believe that humans are approaching something Aubrey De Grey calls “longevity escape velocity” (see the h+ article “Aubrey de Grey on ‘The Singularity’ and ‘The  Methuselarity’” in Resources). This is the point at which the yearly advances in procedures for extending human life expectancy result in adding one year to the human lifespan –- potentially making  death-by-aging a choice rather than a date with destiny."

Other scientist think that the first person to live to be 250 is alive right now and is about 15 to 20 years old. Either way, allot of people think that our life span is going to increase exponentially soon. You know, assuming our society doesn't collapse.

What were we talking about again?


Huh, very interesting read. I always thought it would be interesting to live forever or long enough to see where humans ended up, be it a Mass Effect style future with colonized planets and cool aliens, self destruction, or anything in between. I always thought it would be cool to see us colonize Mars or the Moon, but I thought I was born too early to see any of that happen. If this did end up happening I'd love to be one of the first people with that amount of time. I'm 18 so based on what you said it's possible. 

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didymos1120 wrote...

008Zulu wrote...

The standard measurement scale used is kPa (Pascal), why would Bioware use a non-standardized system?


What does it matter? They do. It's not like it's hard to check this for yourself: just go examine any random planet in either game. They all use that relative unit. Even Earth is listed at "1 Earth Atmosphere". 


For a game that makes extensive use of science, it doesnt makes sense to use non standard measurements.

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AngelicMachinery wrote...

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I'm kind wondering about Shepard's longevity too. Cerberus brought him back for a suicide mission so chances are good they didn't go into Lazarus planning on giving him a long lifespan. I'm thinking Shep in ME3 is living on borrowed time so that either way this mission is his last.


If I play another game where the main character dies at the end,  I am going to rage.


This!

I was worried when someone quoted Game Informer as stating that Mordin is staying close to Shepard.
If true I hope it is not because Shepard is starting to decay or somesuch. :(

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Mordin is just a boss. And I would love to somehow gain control of a reaper ship and just poop on the fleet. :)

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008Zulu wrote...

For a game that makes extensive use of science, it doesnt makes sense to use non standard measurements.


Well, it does.  Likely, they chose it to give people something they could relate to intuitively.  We all have some notion of what Earth's atmosphere is like.  Most people don't have an intuitive grasp of the pascal.

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didymos1120 wrote...

Well, it does.  Likely, they chose it to give people something they could relate to intuitively.  We all have some notion of what Earth's atmosphere is like.  Most people don't have an intuitive grasp of the pascal.


If they used the system, it could motivate people to go out on their own and learn it. I'd bet some of the scientific content in the games have motivated more than a few to do their own research. Education is more fun when you are motivated.

Point at hand tho, the planet's atmosphere is thinner than earth. The methane/ammonia ratio of the planet could offer a lower resistance than the oxygen/nitrogen of ours.

The 3D image of Shepards remains in ME2 intro indicate significant damage, shattered bone from the impact and in Liara's apartment we see part of Shepard's old armour, which does appear to have scoring on it.

As for reproduction, he is probably as sterile as a Nevada boxing commisoner. Liara is likely the only chance for natural reproduction.

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Why on earth would only his reproductive system not work if everything else is working?

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Working testicles/ovaries are not vital to stopping an invading fleet.

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AdamNW wrote...

Why on earth would only his reproductive system not work if everything else is working?


Well femshep would likely not have any eggs left after her incident. With maleshep... you got me there.

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008Zulu wrote...

Working testicles/ovaries are not vital to stopping an invading fleet.

My shep begs to differ, besides if his testes flat out didn't work I don't know if he could nail his LIs.

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Sajuro wrote...

008Zulu wrote...

Working testicles/ovaries are not vital to stopping an invading fleet.

My shep begs to differ, besides if his testes flat out didn't work I don't know if he could nail his LIs.


Why wouldn't he? Teste's arn't vital to actual sex, only reproduction.

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Nashiktal wrote...

Sajuro wrote...

008Zulu wrote...

Working testicles/ovaries are not vital to stopping an invading fleet.

My shep begs to differ, besides if his testes flat out didn't work I don't know if he could nail his LIs.


Why wouldn't he? Teste's arn't vital to actual sex, only reproduction.

Isn't it important to Sexual Drive? bear with me as I know only of biology from psychological biology and even then my memory is fuzzy

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Sajuro wrote...
Isn't it important to Sexual Drive? bear with me as I know only of biology from psychological biology and even then my memory is fuzzy


Shepard wants to bust an actual cap in the Reaper's ass, not a metaphorical one.

His cybernetics could be set to release synthetic testosterone as his body calls for it. Thus completing the illusion. But odds are when Shepard gets a little alone time, he will notice if there wasn't any gas in his tank. Soft tissue can take some pretty serious damage and still be ok, maybe his "boys" are original equipment. Of course any significant damge, such as falling from orbit, would pretty much neutralize any serious kind of production. Even if they returned to normal.

The lack of an ovulation cycle should be the big tipper for Femsheps.

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OK, given that they can regrow whole limbs for transplants (Revelation) as well as arbitrary organs (heart from the really, really weird celebrity transplant heart auction on Cerberus Daily News), could you please explain why it is impossible to clone reproductive organs for transplants?

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Reproductive organs have a greater complexity than, say, the heart. Testes and Ovaries actually have to produce complex genetic material. It'd be easier to give him a couple of rubber peanuts, a synthetic hormone implant and say your as close to original as we can make.

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008Zulu wrote...

Reproductive organs have a greater complexity than, say, the heart.


Um, not sure what you're basing that judgement on. I'm guessing gross anatomy, but that doesn't really matter.  Tissue is tissue, and the recipe for making any kind of tissue is in the DNA of every cell. And organs are of course just collections of particular types of tissue in particular arrangements.  If you know what "switches" to throw, you can grow any kind of tissue or organ you like.

Testes and Ovaries actually have to produce complex genetic material.

 DNA replication is something nearly every cell can do (exceptions being things like erythrocytes, which lack nuclei in mammals), because, well, it's sort of a fundamental process of biology.  It's a normal part of cell division. Germline cells just do cell division a bit differently, but a lot of the mechanisms are more or less identical.  And germ cells aren't somehow magically different.  They're still cells, and their behavior is controlled by what genes are expressed, like any other cell. 

Modifié par didymos1120, 04 mai 2011 - 01:44 .