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I... don't get it *scratches head* *spoilers*


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*END OF GAME SPOILERS*

Sorry if I didn't bother to bring the all those logs in the game, or perhaps I simply didn't pay much attention to detail, but I just don't get the ending of the game. Like, at all. Who was the chick with short black hair that was asking Varric all those bunch of questions throughout the entire game? What was her purpose? What exactly is she going to do after that? The post-campaign doesn't let me do anything or go anywhere, so it's entirely pointless. Anything I could be missing here? 

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Lazy oaf....

The black haired chick is Cassandra a Chantry Seeker (we don't really know the significance of the seeker part.) She has been sent to find out exactly what happened in Kirkwall and get ahold of Varric because he was there. She has some asssumptions that are proven wrong through the game cia Varrics story. We don;t know what is going to happen next or what she and Leliana are up to.

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Apparently, if Hawke sided with the mages, Cassandra wants the Champion of Kirkwall to talk to the mages because he's a hero to them, since it seems that the mages and the templars are going to war. She claims that "not all of us desire war." If Hawke sided with the templars, then he's a hero of the templars, and Cassandra's reason differs slightly. Leliana believes that Hawke's disappearance is tied to the disappearance of The Warden.

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What if the Warden died? Is the dialogue the same?

Does the Warden always disappear or is it only if (s)he goes into the mirror with Morrigan?

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If the Hero of Ferelden died, it's assumed Leliana is talking about the Orlesian Warden then. The dialogue remains the same, though.

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In my first play through my Warden was dead, I never made an Orlesian Warden, Anders was dead, and Alistair was King. Made me wonder what Warden she was talking about.... XD

Modifié par Sabariel, 02 mai 2011 - 05:41 .


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I never played witch hunt,,, I know its silly since I got the ultimate addition , and it said my warden also disappeared, which i thought was weird since she was according to the epilogue of DAA to have disappearred with the LI [ king alistair] so not sure what happens to fereldan or if he too was kidnapped!


edit  added  some things  cuz im chatty today  :)   
   this  always  gives me  hope mb  we  will be able to  have both  Hawke and  Warden    with  " different acts" being  played  by  one of those  as the  Main toon...   who knows?  dreams are  free  lol.. cant  really see them on the same team  be  weirdly  difficult to  decide  which  would be leader etc, but seperate missions and  seperate  squads... easy!

Modifié par Shacary, 02 mai 2011 - 06:46 .


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Sabariel wrote...

In my first play through my Warden was dead, I never made an Orlesian Warden, Anders was dead, and Alistair was King. Made me wonder what Warden she was talking about.... XD


Well, if you import an Origins save into DA2 where your Warden died, you don't have to create an Orlesian Warden; it just stands to reason that if your Warden died, Ferelden was sent a Warden from Orlais.  That, after all, is the default assumption of Awakening if you don't import a Warden.  But I do have to wonder how Anders could be dead in your playthrough if your Warden was dead and you didn't make an Orlesian Warden, unless you're just snarkily failing to mention that you used the import save generator, which I suspect is the case.  But the answer to that is that there are certain decision points that contradict each other in ways that would just confuse DA2 and make for some very odd references to Origins.  :innocent:

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Sabariel wrote...

In my first play through my Warden was dead, I never made an Orlesian Warden, Anders was dead, and Alistair was King. Made me wonder what Warden she was talking about.... XD

You don't have to create an Orlesian Warden for one to exist.

I mean, if you didn't play DA:O, would you expect Ferelden to be overrun with the Blight and the Archdemon to still be alive?

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She's actually Hawke (yes, even Male!Hawke) in disguise, pulling a huge prank on Varric.

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Sabariel wrote...

In my first play through my Warden was dead, I never made an Orlesian Warden, Anders was dead, and Alistair was King. Made me wonder what Warden she was talking about.... XD


Even if you didn't play Awakenings, the events STILL happened. Like if you played DA2 without touching DAO, all of those events still happened.

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I don't think Leliana's necessarily talking about the Orlesian Warden if the Hero died. She says the Warden's "gone," which could mean dead, too. She could speaking about a general trend of important figures dying and/or disappearing. We don't really know.

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Maria Caliban wrote...

Sabariel wrote...

In my first play through my Warden was dead, I never made an Orlesian Warden, Anders was dead, and Alistair was King. Made me wonder what Warden she was talking about.... XD

You don't have to create an Orlesian Warden for one to exist.

I mean, if you didn't play DA:O, would you expect Ferelden to be overrun with the Blight and the Archdemon to still be alive?


Yes :devil:

Silfren wrote...

Sabariel wrote...

In my
first play through my Warden was dead, I never made an Orlesian Warden,
Anders was dead, and Alistair was King. Made me wonder what Warden she
was talking about.... XD


Well, if you import an Origins
save into DA2 where your Warden died, you don't have to create an
Orlesian Warden; it just stands to reason that if your Warden died,
Ferelden was sent a Warden from Orlais.  That, after all, is the default
assumption of Awakening if you don't import a Warden.  But I do have to
wonder how Anders could be dead in your playthrough if your Warden was
dead and you didn't make an Orlesian Warden, unless you're just snarkily
failing to mention that you used the import save generator, which I
suspect is the case.  But the answer to that is that there are certain
decision points that contradict each other in ways that would just
confuse DA2 and make for some very odd references to Origins.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie]


Anders still becomes a Warden even if a Ferelden/Orlesian Warden hands him over to the templars. I assumed  that if you didn't play Awakening that  Anders becomes a Warden the same way he does if he's handed to the templars. Then he died because... Hawke killed him [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png[/smilie]

Modifié par Sabariel, 03 mai 2011 - 12:41 .


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Beerfish wrote...

Lazy oaf....

The black haired chick is Cassandra a Chantry Seeker (we don't really know the significance of the seeker part.) She has been sent to find out exactly what happened in Kirkwall and get ahold of Varric because he was there. She has some asssumptions that are proven wrong through the game cia Varrics story. We don;t know what is going to happen next or what she and Leliana are up to.



FYI, There is a codex called "The Seekers of Truth". They are an elite part of the chantry that watch over the templars and only answer to the Divine. They mostly investigaste allegations of circle mistreatment and hunt escaped apostates that the templars can't recover on their own. It's said that the templars fear seeing the seekers because it means that they have done something very wrong. The seekers are sent in from foriegn lands only on the most serious of matters. So Cassandra is not nessasarily on the side of the templars, I think she's investigating Merideths faults in what lead up to the final battle too.

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chelseaisthepan wrote...

She's actually Hawke (yes, even Male!Hawke) in disguise, pulling a huge prank on Varric.


Wow that would certainly be a plot bunny. XD